The Third Redcafe Sheep Draft

green_smiley said:
Data for modern players should be accurate. You may want to check with @Gio

footballdatabase.eu has been used in previous drafts
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Footballdatabase.eu does work up to a certain point, though. For very old players, they lack data, so it is not as easy to find out about them.
 
mazhar13 said:
Footballdatabase.eu does work up to a certain point, though. For very old players, they lack data, so it is not as easy to find out about them.
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Same goes for Wiki. I have seen old players with "?" number of appearance :lol:

I would look for few other sites to prove the player meets the given criteria, and check with the draft mods just to be sure
 
mazhar13 said:
The one thing I'm relieved about is that my Netto pick isn't void anymore. His 54 caps makes him ineligible for this round, so at least, that pick's not nullified in any way.
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How did you come to that conclusion? Even if you had got Puskas, it'd hold good, right?

Netto is a great player. If you put him in the right formation, he'd be excellent. You don't have to justify that pick.
 
green_smiley said:
Same goes for Wiki. I have seen old players with "?" number of appearance :lol:

I would look for few other sites to prove the player meets the given criteria, and check with the draft mods just to be sure
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Of course. For very old/obscure players, it's best to show multiple sources to prove the statistic. Speaking of which, @Gio and the committee, who has the responsibility to prove that a player's the correct pick: the draft manager or the committee?
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
How did you come to that conclusion? Even if you had got Puskas, it'd hold good, right?

Netto is a great player. If you put him in the right formation, he'd be excellent. You don't have to justify that pick.
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My wording was horrible in that post, and I apologise for that. Of course I'm super happy with Netto, even if the more glamorous names got away.

What I meant to say is that, by picking Netto, who had 54 caps for the Soviet Union, at least the pool's one player larger for me to pick. I know it sounds really dumb, but I find that microscopic advantage cool. :cool:
 
mazhar13 said:
My wording was horrible in that post, and I apologise for that. Of course I'm super happy with Netto, even if the more glamorous names got away.

What I meant to say is that, by picking Netto, who had 54 caps for the Soviet Union, at least the pool's one player larger for me to pick. I know it sounds really dumb, but I find that microscopic advantage cool. :cool:
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I think we all picked players with at least 30 caps :) (:nervous: just a hunch, though).
 
The Stain (1) Stoichkov
Joga Bonito (1) Kocsis
Chesterlestreet (1) Šekularac
Sjor Bepo/Physiocrat (1) Charisteas
Snow (1) Boniek
EAP/ctp (1) Džajić
MJJ (1) Yashin
Marty1968/bleezy (1) Baros
Stobzilla (1) Demyanenko
Skizzo/Pat (1) Dasayev
mazhar13 (1) Netto
Invictus/KM (1) Bene
Tuppet (1) Olisadebe
Isotope (1) Boban
Enigma_87/RedTiger (1) Stojkovic
Cal? (1) Vidic

BLOCKED LIST: Puskas, Bozsik, Savicevic, Albert, Grosics
 
The Stain said:
I think we all picked players with at least 30 caps :) (:nervous: just a hunch, though).
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No, you're correct. All of the players from Round 1 had more than 30 caps, which makes this current pool quite good and open.
 
mazhar13 said:
Of course. For very old/obscure players, it's best to show multiple sources to prove the statistic. Speaking of which, @Gio and the committee, who has the responsibility to prove that a player's the correct pick: the draft manager or the committee?
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Anything doubtful I'd expect the manager to back it up. We will check but where there are conflicting sources a strong case needs to be made.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Milan Baros is too good to be a sheep
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To be fair it's a tricky criteria to pick a sheep for - someone who was nominated for a Ballon d'or by definition isn't going to be completely useless.

I think Baros is a fine sheep though given we're sporting an all time draft here.
 
I'll let you guys fight for the bigger names this round.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Milan Baros is too good to be a sheep
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I think he's an awful sheep to get. Liverpool player, not that good, pretty cnuty looking with a pretty poor club career. All he's got going for him is Euro 2004, same as Charisteas, a tournament best remembered for big teams choking and Greece winning.
 
Looking at the career goals per game record Olisedabe is the best of all three
 
Theon said:
I agree with Chester and don't think there is any reason to play him in that role.

He would be much better as one of the wing forwards in that formation - Which IMO is the harder role to recruit for so it's a good thing.

This is the side me and @Thisistheone made with a similar theme in mind:

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What a team that was mate!

:drool::drool::drool:
 
Theon said:
I think Baros is a fine sheep though given we're sporting an all time draft here.
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No doubt about it. He's going to be a hard-sell. It's like you say, the category isn't one that allows for truly terrible players. Baros is as good (or rather as bad) a sheep as it gets.

Is there any realistic chance that anyone would pick Baros voluntarily in any sort of draft? Scraping the bottom of the barrel in a Euro draft - maybe. But that would be it.

Was he picked in Balu's Euro draft, BTW?
 
Chesterlestreet said:
No doubt about it. He's going to be a hard-sell. It's like you say, the category isn't one that allows for truly terrible players. Baros is as good (or rather as bad) a sheep as it gets.

Is there any realistic chance that anyone would pick Baros voluntarily in any sort of draft? Scraping the bottom of the barrel in a Euro draft - maybe. But that would be it.

Was he picked in Balu's Euro draft, BTW?
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At the back of my mind I've got the feeling that @Aldo had him once..?
 
One could also add that if he had lived up to the potential he showed as part of that very exciting Czech team, he would've been quite a player.

Same could be said for ****** - and our *****, for that matter, although the latter is a bit different.
 
Theon said:
To be fair it's a tricky criteria to pick a sheep for - someone who was nominated for a Ballon d'or by definition isn't going to be completely useless.

I think Baros is a fine sheep though given we're sporting an all time draft here.
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Fair point. Missed that bit
 
Should be easy finding truly horrible sheep for this round...

But then again, you'd have to be more than a little unlucky to actually end up sheep'ed here. The pool is huge, after all.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Should be easy finding truly horrible sheep for this round...

But then again, you'd have to be more than a little unlucky to actually end up sheep'ed here. The pool is huge, after all.
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Yep - no excuses for getting a sheep here, so if you do it's gonna be a bad one
 
@Gio sent my pick couple of hours ago.

Results coming tonight? Cause if it is a block(which will probably be) have to do some research :)
 
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