When I was getting promoted from Div2, I was getting around 25k attendance but you would imagine getting into Div1 would mean increased attendance. It wasn't the case. Flirting in the bottom half has its effect but dropping to 20k isn't what i had in mind. Still feeling its effect.
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This is why I asked how you have decided the incremental cap as you go down the list. 1 extra squad space is worth about 2mil for a very impatient manager. You should take 1 extra cap to be worth about 4mil imo so as to keep a balance between very short term purchases and long term buys. 2 reviews will make that much money if the player is right.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x71ACPS6ddhNVhkrSm5swcVzjhFiFl1FQgjvadgCgew/edit?usp=sharing
Here's the spreadsheet. Noticed that the old formula was wrong so decided to break it down to make sure it was right!
Please note, these figures only calculate LEAGUE games. Does not take into consideration:
1. Wages
2. Transfers
3. Cup Games
Also some clubs have played 19 home games while others have only played 18. So they'll be about to get extra money from their final game.
Here's the spreadsheet. Noticed that the old formula was wrong so decided to break it down to make sure it was right!
Please note, these figures only calculate LEAGUE games. Does not take into consideration:
1. Wages
2. Transfers
3. Cup Games
Also some clubs have played 19 home games while others have only played 18. So they'll be about to get extra money from their final game.
How much?
Too late, he is gone!
Neat!
Fair enough, i only have £12m anyway!
90-94: 40 (Manchester United)
86-90: 41
82-86: 42
78-82: 43
74-78: 44 (Arsenal)
70-74: 45
66-70: 46 (Newcastle United)
62-66: 47 (Sunderland, Manchester City, Liverpool)
58-62: 48 (Aston Villa, Chelsea)
54-58: 49 (Everton)
50-54: 50 (Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
46-50: 51 (Southampton, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers, Nottingham Forest, Milton Keynes Dons)
42-46: 52 (Stoke City, Fulham, Darlington, QPR)
86-90: 41
82-86: 42
78-82: 43
74-78: 44 (Arsenal)
70-74: 45
66-70: 46 (Newcastle United)
62-66: 47 (Sunderland, Manchester City, Liverpool)
58-62: 48 (Aston Villa, Chelsea)
54-58: 49 (Everton)
50-54: 50 (Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
46-50: 51 (Southampton, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Blackburn Rovers, Nottingham Forest, Milton Keynes Dons)
42-46: 52 (Stoke City, Fulham, Darlington, QPR)
Manchester United - £54,982,504
Arsenal - £47,152,604
Newcastle United - £43,212,954
Sunderland - £41,539,776
Manchester City - £40,910,420
Liverpool - £39,821,644
Aston Villa - £38,471,048
Chelsea - £38,108,946
Everton - £37,374,862
Tottenham Hotspur - £35,270,916
West Ham United - £34,943,394
Southampton - £33,482,142
Wolverhampton Wanderers - £32,993,576
Blackburn Rovers - £32,829,074
Nottingham Forest - £32,451,164
Milton Keynes Dons - £32,400,776
Stoke City - £31,355,472
Fulham - £30,474,176
Darlington - £29,899,160
Queens Park Rangers - £29,830,000
Derby County - £21,382,790
Ipswich Town - £20,009,242
Norwich City - £18,729,744
Plymouth Argyle - £15,490,244
This is the fixed Max Attendance list. Sorry @Damien
Added some Div 2 teams at the bottom for comparison.
Arsenal - £47,152,604
Newcastle United - £43,212,954
Sunderland - £41,539,776
Manchester City - £40,910,420
Liverpool - £39,821,644
Aston Villa - £38,471,048
Chelsea - £38,108,946
Everton - £37,374,862
Tottenham Hotspur - £35,270,916
West Ham United - £34,943,394
Southampton - £33,482,142
Wolverhampton Wanderers - £32,993,576
Blackburn Rovers - £32,829,074
Nottingham Forest - £32,451,164
Milton Keynes Dons - £32,400,776
Stoke City - £31,355,472
Fulham - £30,474,176
Darlington - £29,899,160
Queens Park Rangers - £29,830,000
Derby County - £21,382,790
Ipswich Town - £20,009,242
Norwich City - £18,729,744
Plymouth Argyle - £15,490,244
This is the fixed Max Attendance list. Sorry @Damien
Added some Div 2 teams at the bottom for comparison.
That's a crazy amount of work. Kudos.
Crap end to my European run.
I lost 5-4, 9-8 on agg.....what the balls???
You need to invest in better defenders.
Still makes no bloody sense. Rest of the team gets 7 and 8s. You'd think my defence would get crap ratings also unless Oblak plucked the ball out of the air and volleyed it into the net himself.
Leno got a 4 rating in the cup final mate. If your GK plays badly then you've lost. Sucks but thats how this game works.
I don't mind a keeper having a bad game, but in SM when he has a bad game he concedes 4 goals every time. Just really annoys me
Well they use GK's having howlers to intentionally make you lose a game. It's their way of fixing results.
seven one
@Damien is Litterbug banned? I want to make an offer on one of his players.
Yes, send him a message on SM
Phil Jones is available
meh, I just put an offer in but i doubt he will accept. I'm trying to build a side that will win me the 2nd division title next season. I beat Norwich 3-1 away and they're second so the signs look good.
For anybody in Divison 3 or below, Jonathon Leko is available for loan, he's 16 and is going to be a superstar, come and aid his development.
LB won't sell his players, and if he does he wants waaay over the asking/rated prices. Good luck trying though mate.
Yeah i was going to negotiate on here with him, but if he turns my offer down that's fine, it would have been a luxury purchase anyway.
Is there know way to see attributes of players?
Unless you are BR, then maybe, just maybe, there is a chance
What division are you in? 2? run scared my man, Roly is here now.
I'll meet you in Div 1 (or You'll pass me if i fail spectacularly)
Alright, following several conversations and checking the finances in greater depth, I've decided to ditch the last FFP and come up with a new calculation based on the clubs finances instead.
The way it works is this:
Each club has a maximum capacity for their stadium. Therefore I can calculate what each club makes in profit from their league fixtures (minus wages). So what this system does is create a table of income (55m, 54m, 53m etc) and then puts a cap next to each figure in 2m intervals. I.E. 55m & 54m = 42 cap, 53 & 52m = 43 cap etc.
In addition to this, each division will be given 2 additional spaces. So Div1 = 0, Div2 = 2, Div3 = 4 etc.
I'll produce the table tomorrow which should make it clearer for everyone involved. But if you did want to have a look, I've done a rough table in the finances spreadsheet (go to column AH35).
The way it works is this:
Each club has a maximum capacity for their stadium. Therefore I can calculate what each club makes in profit from their league fixtures (minus wages). So what this system does is create a table of income (55m, 54m, 53m etc) and then puts a cap next to each figure in 2m intervals. I.E. 55m & 54m = 42 cap, 53 & 52m = 43 cap etc.
In addition to this, each division will be given 2 additional spaces. So Div1 = 0, Div2 = 2, Div3 = 4 etc.
I'll produce the table tomorrow which should make it clearer for everyone involved. But if you did want to have a look, I've done a rough table in the finances spreadsheet (go to column AH35).
FFP doesnt affect me at all since my squad will never get that big
I need to be able to loan out players 80 and under, as you can see my stadium hampers my income quite a lot.
I need those wages off the books
I need to be able to loan out players 80 and under, as you can see my stadium hampers my income quite a lot.
I need those wages off the books
Me and Stain (Everton) won't be loaning out 79s or under so that's 20 less loans to worry about from your perspective.
As for your stadium, you only make 2m less than me in the season.
For those who check the spreadsheet and understand the concept. Can you vote which Cap Interval to use.
2 = Blue Column (AI56:91) and is a kinder Cap
3 = Red Column (AJ56:91) and is a harsher Cap.
Club examples:
United / Cap2 = 42, Cap3 = 42
Arsenal / Cap2 = 46, Cap3 = 44
Sunderland / Cap 2 = 48, Cap3 = 46
Everton / Cap 2 = 51, Cap3 = 48
Blackburn / Cap 2 = 53, Cap3 = 49
Forest / Cap 2 = 53, Cap3 = 49
Ipswich / Cap 2 = 55, Cap3 = 51 (with Div2 +2)
Southend / Cap 2 = 62, Cap3 = 56 (with Div3 +4, confirmed promotion)
2 = Blue Column (AI56:91) and is a kinder Cap
3 = Red Column (AJ56:91) and is a harsher Cap.
Club examples:
United / Cap2 = 42, Cap3 = 42
Arsenal / Cap2 = 46, Cap3 = 44
Sunderland / Cap 2 = 48, Cap3 = 46
Everton / Cap 2 = 51, Cap3 = 48
Blackburn / Cap 2 = 53, Cap3 = 49
Forest / Cap 2 = 53, Cap3 = 49
Ipswich / Cap 2 = 55, Cap3 = 51 (with Div2 +2)
Southend / Cap 2 = 62, Cap3 = 56 (with Div3 +4, confirmed promotion)
I'm fine either way. Doubt there'll be many happy with the harsher cap though
I doubt my TV revenue is that high. Perhaps you considered only the stadium revenue, so is understood if you purposely made the TV revenue constant
I am fine either way, although I think it is harsh for Damien to have his cap further reduced by 3. Same goes for other top division clubs
My plan is to have around 45 players next season and not 55-60, partly due to expected rise in my wages bill after winter review, so I am happy even if my cap is reduced to (52+4)
I am fine either way, although I think it is harsh for Damien to have his cap further reduced by 3. Same goes for other top division clubs
My plan is to have around 45 players next season and not 55-60, partly due to expected rise in my wages bill after winter review, so I am happy even if my cap is reduced to (52+4)
Damien suggested it.
All clubs finances are best case scenario, max capacity div1 multipliers. Then the division balancing keeps an easy step up or down depending ln whether a club gets promoted or relegated. Should work well with the stadium increases SM are planning.