My team are massive overachievers wouldn't you say? Forget the matches, how do you explain the player performances?
Just because you can't grind out results with the team you have doesn't mean the engine doesn't work, it means you're a shit manager
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My team are massive overachievers wouldn't you say? Forget the matches, how do you explain the player performances?
Just because you can't grind out results with the team you have doesn't mean the engine doesn't work, it means you're a shit manager
wtf?Yeah, Litterbug, the engine is shite. Good that you are putting efforts and it might be playing some part but when you are on good run, tactics and strategies seem to be working. Once you go on bad run, you will see that something which seemed to work, doesn't anymore and what's worse you won't find awful lot wrong with what you are doing tactically.
I tried 4-2-3-1 first then 4-3-1-2, then 4-3-3 wingers but kept conceding awful lot without scoring. 3-5-2 has helped me at both ends. Not like I have some full back types players out wide. I too played Navas in exact same role you are doing, in same formation and he did feck all. 0 goals and 0 assists in league ffs.
Even if we agree with all the tactics part and efforts, it is difficult to justify two teams having same shots on target and one scoring 5 while other 1 and when the team scoring 1 has on an avg. +4 in rating over the team scoring 5. Similarly, too often a team having more shots on target and by some margin ends up losing. Such games happen in real life but 2-3 max over course of season. In SM, it happens in 2-3 matches each week!
I think it was Chelsea or City who posted few days back about having 38 shots or something and still losing.
Why didn't you respond to the flaws I pointed out regarding our match then? Or try and explain the drubbing villa gave to United playing the exact same formation with every player rated couple of ratings point less than United?
Edit: ditto Stoke vs Chelsea last night. Same formation, every player rated 3 points or so above Stoke, both with same shots and shots on target.
Edit: ditto Stoke vs Chelsea last night. Same formation, every player rated 3 points or so above Stoke, both with same shots and shots on target.
Some teams get "newb" boosts Litterbug. It's why when clubs are promoted from Div 2 they either do really well or get relegated. We've never had a season when the teams that got promoted are all involved in the relegation fight. You could listen to the people who's played this game for 3 years, or continue to have the illusion that you're a tactical mastermind. I'd go with the latter to allow us a chance to giggle a bit!
Yeah
To be fair to SM, match engines are very difficult to make. But i'm pretty sure that a lot of the "content" they have to match it look more complicated is actually just a load of BS.
It isn't just us either. Don't go to the SM forum nowadays but that was the biggest complain people over there had when I used to read a year or so back. Besides the faulty review system which they thankfully have corrected since.
The match needs improvement of course but I don't think it's all that bad. On the whole, I haven't had too many complaints with it in all the years I've been playing.
Can't wait for LB to get hit by shit season syndrome.
I'll explain how the match engine actually works. Taking everything into consideration, formation, instructions, in-game instructions, position, age, experience, morale, condition and ability the engine calculates a score for each team, based on that it determines who wins the game and by how much. Then based on that a random scenario is selected and the game is played out. Everything is based in calculations and not randomness as many of you seem to think.
Can someone who is on a PC post the screenshot of the detailed tactics in the villa vs united and Stoke vs Chelsea games please?
Do you have a better explanation? If not you may continue to cry about how the match engine hates you
Happened to me once last season
Yeah, Litterbug, the engine is shite. Good that you are putting efforts and it might be playing some part but when you are on good run, tactics and strategies seem to be working. Once you go on bad run, you will see that something which seemed to work, doesn't anymore and what's worse you won't find awful lot wrong with what you are doing tactically.
I tried 4-2-3-1 first then 4-3-1-2, then 4-3-3 wingers but kept conceding awful lot without scoring. 3-5-2 has helped me at both ends. Not like I have some full back types players out wide. I too played Navas in exact same role you are doing, in same formation and he did feck all. 0 goals and 0 assists in league ffs.
Even if we agree with all the tactics part and efforts, it is difficult to justify two teams having same shots on target and one scoring 5 while other 1 and when the team scoring 1 has on an avg. +4 in rating over the team scoring 5. Similarly, too often a team having more shots on target and by some margin ends up losing. Such games happen in real life but 2-3 max over course of season. In SM, it happens in 2-3 matches each week!
I think it was Chelsea or City who posted few days back about having 38 shots or something and still losing.
Last season I broke most records and won five trophies while using the same tactics in every single match. Not changed a single thing this season apart from bringing in Mesut and my form has hit a brick wall.Do you have a better explanation? If not you may continue to cry about how the match engine hates you
Do you have a better explanation? If not you may continue to cry about how the match engine hates you
We've already told you. The "calculations" are horseshit. As been proven dozens of times by several people using all kinds of daft formations and yet still winning. I just think you're a little naive in believing what the game wants you to believe. But we're a naughty bunch in the games industry and often we include mechanics that seem to do something but actually don't! Don't shoot the messenger...
We've already told you. The "calculations" are horseshit. As been proven dozens of times by several people using all kinds of daft formations and yet still winning. I just think you're a little naive in believing what the game wants you to believe. But we're a naughty bunch in the games industry and often we include mechanics that seem to do something but actually don't! Don't shoot the messenger...
You work in game industry? Nice....
Have you not seen his gorgeous handiwork here? https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ww-murder-at-sea-living-players-only.373003/
We've already told you. The "calculations" are horseshit. As been proven dozens of times by several people using all kinds of daft formations and yet still winning. I just think you're a little naive in believing what the game wants you to believe. But we're a naughty bunch in the games industry and often we include mechanics that seem to do something but actually don't! Don't shoot the messenger...
I used a daft formation and players against Yeovil in the cup at home and lost. If what you say were true then my momentum should have won me the game, but it did not. I won't exclude what you say altogether but refuse to believe that it is just random crap. Its just excuses that people come up with when things don't go their way. I've failed to change my team 2-3 times and I have lost every single time due to player conditions. I should have been able to grind out some kind of result for those games considering I was the better team but I did not.
Everyone wants to know what kind of voodoo goes on at Wolves, but we've nothing to hide. If what you say about noob boosts is true then please tell me why the same did not happen at Norwich, West Ham, WBA, Plymouth etc. They were all noobs. And after 20 weeks are Wolves still considered a noob team in the league considering there are much newer managers?
If you think I'm wasting time tweaking player positions, formations and instructions then that's your opinion, I'm happy to do it as it works for me.
Hehe. Is SM a group of dedicated developers or a part-time project kind of by football enthusiast developers and it grew over time?Yus. Thankfully not part of SM
Looks a nice OP that. Had heard about this WW game by title at least but seeing OP first time.
You should see the cards
@Damien Can we have 'SM special one' as tagline for Litterbug Mourinho like speech above.
Mourinho like speech above.One of these days i'll get that WW game me and Dargon planned finish and that'll blow shit away.
Yeah thanks for making tonnes of forums then about a year later never getting around to it!
np.
I want to play WW. As a wolf.
I want to play WW. As a wolf.
You will no longer make it as a wolf as long as I'm a villager
You will no longer make it as a wolf as long as I'm a villager
Your hard on for me in both the last 2 games I was a villager means no one will take you seriously unless you actually work based on something more intelligent than "laws of probability".
In Connect Game World, my team AFC Bournemouth (average rating 88) vs Bayern (average rating 93)
Both use 3-5-2
Possession: 49% vs 51%
Total Shots: 21 vs 21
Shots On Target: 13 vs 12
Corners: 2 vs 7
Yellow Cards: 0 vs 1
Red Cards: 0 vs 0
Both use 3-5-2
Possession: 49% vs 51%
Total Shots: 21 vs 21
Shots On Target: 13 vs 12
Corners: 2 vs 7
Yellow Cards: 0 vs 1
Red Cards: 0 vs 0
I won 7-2
What is this connect thing? I've seen connectivity levels mentioned in the GW too.
It is where you compete with teams from other game worlds. You start with Level 10 in a league-based competition, and if promoted, you go to next Level (9, 8, 7 and so on)
I see. Thanks.
We should actually create a connect game world. I could enter with the below team:
You can't create a connect game world
What you can do is to find an unoccupied game world, and everyone joins it at around the same time. Problem is, someone outside The RedCafe League may join too. Each Connect League Level 10 can only accept 8 teams
Have you thought about charity to weaker teams?
I would have liked to play that.
@Damien woah, what's with the thread title?
I sucked for a while and now you suck Varun!
Naah, I'm good. You can suck some more if you want or we can call it quits.