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Division 1 clubs ranked in order of avg. first XI rating (takes 10 strongest outfield players regardless of position + keeper)
*in case of multiple players on same rating, uses first alphabetically
| Rank | Team | Avg. Rating | Strongest Player* | # 90+ |
|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manchester United | 93.8 | Antoine Griezmann (95) | 22 |
2 | Everton | 93.5 | Neymar (96) | 16 |
3 | Nottingham Forest | 92.6 | Robert Lewandowski (96) | 16 |
4 | Liverpool | 92.5 | Kevin De Bruyne (96) | 13 |
5 | Manchester City | 92.2 | Sergio Aguero (95) | 13 |
6 | Arsenal | 92 | Eden Hazard (95) | 15 |
= | Aston Villa | 92 | Lionel Messi (99) | 11 |
8 | Darlington | 91.9 | Thiago Alcantara (94) | 13 |
= | Newcastle United | 91.9 | Jan Oblak (95) | 15 |
10 | Fulham | 91.4 | Raphael Varane (94) | 10 |
11 | Middlesbrough | 91.2 | Mats Hummels (93) | 16 |
12 | Cardiff City | 91.1 | Luis Suarez (94) | 12 |
= | Sunderland | 91.1 | Mauro Icardi (93) | 16 |
14 | Bristol City | 91 | Cristiano Ronaldo (98) | 9 |
= | Southend United | 91 | Andy Robertson (93) | 11 |
16 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 90.9 | N'golo Kante (94) | 13 |
17 | Southampton | 90.8 | Saul Niguez (93) | 10 |
18 | Bournemouth | 90.7 | Alexandre Lacazette (92) | 11 |
19 | Hereford | 90.3 | Marcelo Brozovic (92) | 6 |
20 | Ipswich Town | 90 | John Stones (91) | 9 |
*in case of multiple players on same rating, uses first alphabetically
Yeah, my squad depth is wafer thin. I do have a fairly young squad and a very good strikeforce/midfield so hopefully that will keep me up.
Yeah. Liverpool have one of the best avg. XIs and were in a relegation battle last season while Cardiff, Middlesbrough and Bournemouth finished in the top 10 so anything could happen.
I think it's even more impressive that I had no problem staying up last season, I was in contention for the top 10 for the majority of the season.
Absolutely. Was just the last few games where you tailed off but I don't know if that was due to your fixtures or not
Makes my relegation last year a bit more stomachable.
I lost quite a few games which i should've taken a point from at least, i seem to have a problem with the second half of my season every season.
2:0 victory away to Bristol City. Very tough match.
Subs: Gaya (91), Boateng (91)↑, Kovacic (91), Goretzka (91), Dele (92)↑, Pulisic (90), Brandt (91)↑
Suspended: Eriksen (94)
Did not travel: Christensen (90), Dias (90), Zakaria (90)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCGBG1: Paris Saint-Germain (H)
MD02: Southend United (H)
MD03: Everton (H)
Manchester United v Bristol City fixtures this season
De Gea (93)
Elvedi (90)↓ Ramos (95) Kimmich (94) Alaba (93)
Pogba (93)↓ Kroos (95)
Mbappe (94) -- Sancho (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (95)
Elvedi (90)↓ Ramos (95) Kimmich (94) Alaba (93)
Pogba (93)↓ Kroos (95)
Mbappe (94)
-- Sancho (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)Griezmann (95)
Subs: Gaya (91), Boateng (91)↑, Kovacic (91), Goretzka (91), Dele (92)↑, Pulisic (90), Brandt (91)↑
Suspended: Eriksen (94)
Did not travel: Christensen (90), Dias (90), Zakaria (90)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCGBG1: Paris Saint-Germain (H)
MD02: Southend United (H)
MD03: Everton (H)
Manchester United v Bristol City fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Bristol City Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Bristol City Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Bristol City Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Bristol City SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
19th Apr: Bristol City v Utd | 59% | 41% | 19 (9) | 11 (3) | 2 | 0 | 22.2% | 0% |
Combined | 59% | 41% | 19 (9) | 11 (3) | 2 | 0 | 22.2% | 0% |
Alaba out injured for four weeks. Title challenge over.
2:0 victory away to Bristol City. Very tough match.
De Gea (93)
Elvedi (90)↓ Ramos (95) Kimmich (94) Alaba (93)
Pogba (93)↓ Kroos (95)
Mbappe (94)
Griezmann (95)
Subs: Gaya (91), Boateng (91)↑, Kovacic (91), Goretzka (91), Dele (92)↑, Pulisic (90), Brandt (91)↑
Suspended: Eriksen (94)
Did not travel: Christensen (90), Dias (90), Zakaria (90)
Key:
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
CCGBG1: Paris Saint-Germain (H)
MD02: Southend United (H)
MD03: Everton (H)
Manchester United v Bristol City fixtures this season
Game Utd Poss Bristol City Poss Utd Shots (SoT) Bristol City Shots (SoT) Utd Goals Bristol City Goals Utd SoT Conv. Bristol City SoT Conv.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha! Brilliant
5:0 victory at home to PSG.
Subs: Elvedi (90), Zakaria (90)↑, Kovacic (91), Dele (92), Sancho (91), Eriksen (94)↑, Brandt (91)↑
Injured: Mbappe (94), Alaba (93)
Suspended: Ramos (95)
Did not travel: Boateng (91)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD02: Southend United (H)
MD03: Everton (H)
CCGBG2: Roma (A)
Manchester United v PSG fixtures this season
De Gea (93)
Christensen (90) Dias (90) Kimmich (94) Gaya (91)
Pogba (93)↓ Kroos (95)
Pulisic (90)↓ -- Goretzka (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (95)
Christensen (90) Dias (90) Kimmich (94) Gaya (91)
Pogba (93)↓ Kroos (95)
Pulisic (90)
↓ -- Goretzka (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)Griezmann (95)
Subs: Elvedi (90), Zakaria (90)↑, Kovacic (91), Dele (92), Sancho (91), Eriksen (94)↑, Brandt (91)↑
Injured: Mbappe (94), Alaba (93)
Suspended: Ramos (95)
Did not travel: Boateng (91)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD02: Southend United (H)
MD03: Everton (H)
CCGBG2: Roma (A)
Manchester United v PSG fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | PSG Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | PSG Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | PSG Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | PSG SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
20th Apr: Utd v PSG | 74% | 26% | 24 (12) | 5 (1) | 5 | 0 | 41.7% | 0% |
Combined | 74% | 26% | 24 (12) | 5 (1) | 5 | 0 | 41.7% | 0% |
I'll be a happy bunny if Vardy is as prolific as he was at Cardiff! But 2 goals in 2 games and 1 MOTM is a promising start!
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He’s a machine! Definitely him and Sarr got me promoted 2 seasons ago and he fired me into the top 10.
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What’s going on with the Dest deal? Seems really odd?
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Had it explained to me haha
I've like 5 percent understanding about whats going on with the whole transfers and loan and swap saga.
But i would just like to say to people... it's just a game.
The reason I play SM with you guys is because I find it fun, The player hoarding or whatever is what it is, but ultimately it's not that serious.
If we are really annoyed by player hoarding in the game and it's such a big deal, why not just decrease the global FFP by a certain amount like 10 percent.
This way everyone is affected by the FFP in the same way.
But i would just like to say to people... it's just a game.
The reason I play SM with you guys is because I find it fun, The player hoarding or whatever is what it is, but ultimately it's not that serious.
If we are really annoyed by player hoarding in the game and it's such a big deal, why not just decrease the global FFP by a certain amount like 10 percent.
This way everyone is affected by the FFP in the same way.
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The issue is as follows. Teams are artificially inflating the market making cash useless as they are ‘selling’ players to smaller clubs and then buying them back at a higher price. This removes the need for the smaller club to organically grow by scouting well and selling for profit (something Southend United managed to do just fine!). By doing this it it removes the ability of all other clubs from using their cash to buy players from clubs slowly building up to higher divisions. This then stifles the transfer market betIt also means when there is a draft the smaller clubs have no concern about where the money for the best player comes from which shouldn’t be the case.
So market inflation aside there is another issue. Selling a player to another club only to buy them later is essentially parking that player and also taking up FFP space at another club allowing the ‘selling’ club an extra FFP slot which, had they just used the loan system to give a struggling club a good player, they wouldn’t have. So it allows the big club to take risks on talents more if they wanted to or even have a temporary work around for their FFP.
Now believe it or not I don’t care if it stays the same or changes as I don’t do it but when people are saying you shouldn’t be able to swap GKs with concerns to keep them in your squad it then becomes incredibly hypocritical as both things do have an impact on the market and give teams a way to get around concerns or FFP.
So my argument is either both are ok and while a bit naughty something we accept and don’t criticise others for or neither of them are as they impact other managers not just those in the deal.
I would be very happy with a reduction in squad sizes to be fair as it would make things a lot more interesting on the market!
Apologies for the long post and hope everyone’s doing well!
So market inflation aside there is another issue. Selling a player to another club only to buy them later is essentially parking that player and also taking up FFP space at another club allowing the ‘selling’ club an extra FFP slot which, had they just used the loan system to give a struggling club a good player, they wouldn’t have. So it allows the big club to take risks on talents more if they wanted to or even have a temporary work around for their FFP.
Now believe it or not I don’t care if it stays the same or changes as I don’t do it but when people are saying you shouldn’t be able to swap GKs with concerns to keep them in your squad it then becomes incredibly hypocritical as both things do have an impact on the market and give teams a way to get around concerns or FFP.
So my argument is either both are ok and while a bit naughty something we accept and don’t criticise others for or neither of them are as they impact other managers not just those in the deal.
I would be very happy with a reduction in squad sizes to be fair as it would make things a lot more interesting on the market!
Apologies for the long post and hope everyone’s doing well!
just mates helping mates while they offer their excess players for everyone else's elite
who cares
who cares
It kind of does make a mockery of how strictly the rules on failure to adhere to FFP, squad sizes and the number of loaned out players are applied.
3:2 victory at home to Southend without Alaba and Eriksen, and Mbappe at low fitness.
Subs: Elvedi (90), Christensen (90)↑, Kovacic (91), Zakaria (90)↑, Mbappe (94)↑, Dele (92), Brandt (91)
Injured: Alaba (93)
Suspended: Eriksen (94)
Did not travel: Boateng (91), Goretzka (91)
Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD03: Everton (H)
CCGBG2: Roma (A)
MD04: Bournemouth (A)
Manchester United v Southend United fixtures this season
De Gea (93)
Ramos (95) Dias (90)↓ Kimmich (94) Gaya (91)
Pogba (93) Kroos (95)
Sancho (91)↓ -- Pulisic (90)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (95)
Ramos (95) Dias (90)↓ Kimmich (94) Gaya (91)
Pogba (93) Kroos (95)
Sancho (91)↓ -- Pulisic (90)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (95)
Subs: Elvedi (90), Christensen (90)↑, Kovacic (91), Zakaria (90)↑, Mbappe (94)↑, Dele (92), Brandt (91)
Injured: Alaba (93)
Suspended: Eriksen (94)
Did not travel: Boateng (91), Goretzka (91)
Key:
= Goal = Assist = MOTM↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on
Next three games:
MD03: Everton (H)
CCGBG2: Roma (A)
MD04: Bournemouth (A)
Manchester United v Southend United fixtures this season
| Game | Utd Poss | Southend Poss | Utd Shots (SoT) | Southend Shots (SoT) | Utd Goals | Southend Goals | Utd SoT Conv. | Southend SoT Conv. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
23rd Apr: Utd v Southend | 58% | 42% | 14 (8) | 9 (3) | 3 | 2 | 37.5% | 66.6% |
Combined | 58% | 42% | 14 (8) | 9 (3) | 3 | 2 | 37.5% | 66.6% |
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Just want a clarification is GK swapping allowed but frowned upon?
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I’m genuinely not trying to get into it atm I just want an answer on it.
It's really tough when you don't have a decent GK because the concern system is fecked up, since i started playing SM i haven't been able to get a long term highly rated keeper (even then the keeper i do have is not as highly rated as the top tier keepers). In my situation i'm forced to chose between a GK with potential and a higher rated GK who is getting on, imo preventing GK hoarding is a good thing and i support it, but in situations like this for me i'm not trying to hoard and still getting punished. If only SM sorted out the concern system, 88 is too low in division 1 to start demanding a first team slot.
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I’d happily do swaps so you can keep your 88 rated keeper as I have Lafont in the same position? I think if they get to 90 there’s not reason whatsoever but at 88 most teams in the league wouldn’t want to have that player starting.
I'm not going to do anything that will break gameworld rules, i actually support rules against constant swapping of GK's to prevent hoarding, however i do believe in certain cases agreements between clubs should be allowed and through regulation hoarding can still be prevented. So i would propose the following:
- Only one active swap allowed
- You are only allowed to swap a GK <88 rated
- Once the GK returns you can't swap him again to remove any concerns
His 729th (and final) league appearance will be on Sunday.
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Never thought i'd see the day that Damien bins off De Gea. Astonishing.
Whos the other player btw? Pogba?
Whos the other player btw? Pogba?
Ramos. Maybe Pogba too if you don't count his loans.
Ramos has 585 appearances. David Silva has 599 for City, Aguero had 633 for City - not sure if there are any outfield players with more than that.
Wow. What's the deal?
His 729th (and final) league appearance will be on Sunday.
Looks like Alli + De Gea for Oblak? Might be someone else going to United.
Odegaard
I wish. He made it clear to me last year that Guendouzi and Odegaard were non-exchangable. Nobody does reasonable deals anymore, so I've had to overpay again. Big gamble on my part.
Originally he wanted Dele and Pulisic (no De Gea). I was reluctant to do that.
I wonder why
You still see deals like Jovic for Aguero done, or Pjanic for Umtiti and Correa. I've been openly touting Eriksen, Dele, Stones and Boateng for the past few months just for a CB and there've been no takers.
Those are reasonable deals imo. And you have just gotten Dias, on top of Zakaria and Konate that you already have, and the best attacking prospects in the league