The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft
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Is EAP the only one with two sheep? Let's ignore MJJ for now, it's obvious that he's trying to make a living as a shepherd, so he's excused. But somehow I thought we had more managers with 2 sheep.
guys whats your views on Hagi being used as a wide midfielder/winger? does he have to be played as an AM/10 to be rated here?
Dangerous game imo. He was best as a 10.
I love these little quiet periods in the thread where everyone is affixed their research.
This. Never quite does it for me when wide, let alone with the chap you are probably considering.
This round could be brutal. There's quite a few good players out there and a handful of outstanding ones, but I can see this ending up a sheep-fest.
He did alot of great work from wide areas but starting him out there is a hard sell, as he really does need to be the creative fulcrum of the team.
I'm expecting a lot of sheep this round. I can think of 3-4 players that are at the level you guys are picking, a few more that are a level or two lower, then the rest are pretty much sheep. Extremely lucky that MDFC got Zico, otherwise it would have been a sure block this round!
I really do like my pick. I hope I get him, he is a personal favourite and I think he may be a draft debutant as well.
Hmm, I seem to be coming across an unnatural amount of deleted Wikipedia articles. 
Hmm, I seem to be coming across an unnatural amount of deleted Wikipedia articles.
Mixed reception on that one. I've had him a few times in various guises. I certainly think he can be accommodated out wide, no problem, but you'd have to factor in fit and balance with the players around him.
I agree. It's not like you can't play him in a wide-ish role - that is, after all, precisely the role he had often enough (not least in his younger days). The tricky part is that he isn't very useful to you as a - say - normal wide man.
If the plan is to field a conventional AM/No 10 centrally AND Hagi out wide - I wouldn't be too keen on that. In a more custom made set-up, however, you can easily field Hagi out wide - as long as you describe his role and not let people assume that he's some sort of standard winger.
I just don't think it is worth the risk all things considered. He's a great 10 and I want to keep him there, my only fear is the unpredictable nature of this draft.. I may have no choice but to field him there if certain calibre of players in other positions are not available.
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Didn't Hagi play in midfield of a 4-4-2?
Iirc, Aldo did play him wide in 4-3-3 before.
Iirc, Aldo did play him wide in 4-3-3 before.
Sent mine.
He's played wide plenty of times. Often he shone best with the team built around him, but I'd have few concerns in a modern, fluid 4-2-3-1 for 4-3-3 for instance, subject to fit/balance elsewhere.
That's the problem I have, thinking of him as the type that needs a team built around him as that's what i was always used to seeing. What was the consensus of his performances in his time with barca and real?
I suppose the overall verdict would have to be that he was a bit disappointing when you consider his potential. He never did much of note at either club in terms of winning anything, though I can certainly recall him shining in single matches (for Real, at least - I'm sure he did for Barca too, but I can't testify to that). A bit underwhelming on the whole, especially for Barca, I reckon would be a fair assessment.
But how to interpret this is a different matter. Many undeniably great players have failed to settle at Real and Barca. Unless I'm mistaken the story with Hagi was that he didn't really like it in Spain - it didn't suit him on any level. So, it's hardly surprising he didn't become a grand success. He wasn't an easy person, I think - not the sort who get along with everybody and his dog, so that may certainly have played a part too.
Sure he can. It just means pretty much every team will have a starter who isn't as great as the rest of his teammates, like most great teams have had.
blocked!!!
More than the extensive research required here, the squad tactical decision is eating me alive!
Has Luisito Suárez Miramontes appeared in these drafts before?
@Balu How many yet to submit?
If I didn't get Hagi.. he was going to be mine!
I think I remember him being in one of these before.Had to be sold on the promise that he wasn't the bitey Suarez.
I had him once in a draft in the Newbie forum, not saying it will happen, but prepare for some "I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to vote for a player with that name" type posts.
Aye, MJJ had him in an all-time draft and I'm sure he's appeared elsewhere as well. Far too good not to have, although lets never forget our old friend **** getting the better of him in ***
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Not to mention the hassle of having to explain time and again that, no, he is not being played out of position.
On that note, probably better to go with "Miramontes (Ballon d' Or winner, not cannibal)" when posting the formation.
@Pat_Mustard remove that name mate. Anyway he didn't play in that final. Doubt they would have been outclassed to such an extent in midfield had he played.
Anyway I'm always going to refer to him in his full name. Shame that such a legend has a twat as his namesake...
Anyway I'm always going to refer to him in his full name. Shame that such a legend has a twat as his namesake...
Stop eyeing my players
.Delighted to have got him. Actually wanted to block Keane/Redondo but didnt want to risk losing him.
Feck off.Aye, MJJ had him in an all-time draft and I'm sure he's appeared elsewhere as well. Far too good not to have, although lets never forget our old friend Over-Rated Tim getting the better of him in 1967
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Whoops, brainfart moment on my part.
I very nearly tagged you in that post mate! I doubt you want to ever hear that name again. Any chance you could edit the name out of that quote as I named an unpicked player?How many more to submit ??
Done.Whoops, brainfart moment on my part.
I feel like we need an hourly update answering this question.