The Referee Enabled Shithousery of Spanish Teams

Second rate competition, second rate referees. Even in the CL you have refs from lower leagues getting completely outpaced and conned by the best sides. It's been a problem for years.
Tiring to be playing it for 5th time in 8 seasons since 2015/16.
 
Not really. Latest tv deal in Spain was juicy, including the international tv rights. Breaks 2B year iirc

PL makes more because the british consumers have greater spending power and are more keen to spend for football, and internationally the collective draw of the top 6 is bigger than Spain's big 2 plus atletico
The PL was also bigger in terms of revenues than La liga even before there was a big 6 when it was only united vs Arsenal.
 
The PL was also bigger in terms of revenues than La liga even before there was a big 6 when it was only united vs Arsenal.
Collective vs individual bargaining. But yes. The PL did a much better job of markering itself to overseas markets, and England has generally been richer than Spain for quite a long time

Plus, different cultures. English football fans are quite simply more willing to spend money on it. Part of it also comes from the simple fact that even in winter in Spain you get more sun hours, better weather, more things to do other than stay home or hit the pub to watch football. And then there's the radios and pirate streams
 
Nothing remarkable about the ref for last nights game other than he fell for every old trick in the Spanish book of play acting, resulting in Martinez being suspended for the next match! :mad:
 
I said it time and again, but football really needs to move to a stop clock. 60-70 min games with the clock stopped everytime the ball goes dead. That kills about 85% of the play acting; although you'll obviously get teams who still do it to simply break up play.

As for the Kings of this, that was Rijkaard's and Pep's Barca.
 
When did the lad pretend he’d dislocated his shoulder the absolute weapon? After 20 mins?
What an embarrassing bunch of twerps.

Ref was ridiculous too, don’t mind him giving soft ones away but he ignored pretty much 100% of the soft ones on Ronaldo and gave 100% to Sociedad. Bizarre.
Also couldn’t believe how little added time in both halves, this is the simplest way to punish teams for attempting to ruin games like this, just add 10 minutes.
 
Prime Barcelona were the absolute best (worst?) at genuine shithousery. They practically invented it.
Indeed. Remember the clip when someone in the crowd throws a plastic bottle on the ground next to them and like 5 or 6 Barsa players immediately take to the ground? Suarez, Busquets, Alba, Neymar...they were horrible. Weirdly enough Messi never really took part in it. Has always made me respect him more.
 
It's infuriating to watch really and they never really stamped it out since Pep's Barca it's just snowballed.
 
Barcelona 2:2 Man Utd
Absolutely pathetic again tonight.
 
We are only playing Barcelona because of a referee giving a ridiculous decision to a Spanish side and here we are, more biased shit refereeing
 
My thought is that because refs are weak as piss generally they find it easier to allow than enforce. It's a constant
It doesn't make sense because if that were the case, why would he then enforce a much lesser foul literally ten seconds later down the other end of the pitch?
 
Didn't think the ref was too bad tonight. Bought a few soft ones but got the major stuff right. Booked one of them for moaning and generally ushered the idiots surrounding him away. Until refs are given more authority in football what can they do.
 
Didn't think the ref was too bad tonight. Bought a few soft ones but got the major stuff right. Booked one of them for moaning and generally ushered the idiots surrounding him away. Until refs are given more authority in football what can they do.

Agreed, my bump was more about the shithousery of the Spanish teams.
 
Alba trying to get a penalty for a perfectly clean tackle by rolling around in ball for 3 minutes was peak.
 
The ref wasn't all that bad today - but that didn't stop the Barca players from rolling about like they'd just taken a bullet through the leg. It is infuriating to watch.
 
Fckin gavi had me spitting. The amount of frees he got when he was falling over long before the tackle was even attempted. Weak ref bought it everytime
 
Not saying Barca players weren't trying it on, but I was pretty happy with the officiating tonight up until the foul on Rashford. It was so clear and obvious, a definite foul and yellow card. Then the 'foul' by Fred down the other end was never a foul. Ref kind of lost it by that point.

Gavi should have also been booked for lashing out at Bruno IMO, but the ref probably felt he should have blown for a foul the other way first and had tried to let the game flow. Gavi is the ultimate shithouse though for sure, it's actually quite impressive that level of shithousery.
 
Not saying Barca players weren't trying it on, but I was pretty happy with the officiating tonight up until the foul on Rashford. It was so clear and obvious, a definite foul and yellow card. Then the 'foul' by Fred down the other end was never a foul. Ref kind of lost it by that point.

Gavi should have also been booked for lashing out at Bruno IMO, but the ref probably felt he should have blown for a foul the other way first and had tried to let the game flow. Gavi is the ultimate shithouse though for sure, it's actually quite impressive that level of shithousery.
The foul on rashford was a red card, last man back, no cover and a goal scoring opportunity
 
The foul on rashford was a red card, last man back, no cover and a goal scoring opportunity
I've watched it back and it's a close one, but I think if it was looked at they'd give a yellow and benefit of the doubt to the covering defender.

I'm surprised the VAR didn't look at it if there was a real possibility of a red.
 
I've watched it back and it's a close one, but I think if it was looked at they'd give a yellow and benefit of the doubt to the covering defender.

I'm surprised the VAR didn't look at it if there was a real possibility of a red.
There was also a possibility of a penalty, it wasn't but in real time very hard to tell. Can't really understand why it wasn't looked at at all
 
How kounde wasn't sent off for tripping rashford who was clean through is compleatly beyond me. Denying of goal scoring opportunity all day long. Takes all of the man non of ball Rashfords next touch is almost definitely a shot covering defender isn't close enough to make an impact, Rashford scored from a similar position earlier in the game.

Ticks every box, blankley ignored by the VAR. Bizarre.
 
Curiously, Xavi is one of those who advocates increasing the effective playing time, stopping it or increasing the extra time, I don't remember exactly, but he once said so.
In any case, in Spain the slightest contact is a foul and rough games usually end up with many cards, especially if there are guys like Mateu Lahoz. That's why if the referee allows a lot, it's called European refereeing.

Then there are masters in stopping the game with constant tactical fouls (I believe that in general, not only in Spain, this type of fouls should be punished much more, as well as the repetition) and getting rid of the yellow card, Gavi is one (and Casemiro was another).
 
I absolutely hate playing against these cnuts. Was the same against Villareal. Cheating pricks rolling round on the floor, circling the ref at every opportunity and getting away with it every time.
 
Apart from the suddenly blindness with the Kounde foul on Rashford, the ref was okay tonight. He booked their players when they crossed the line and even let us away with a few with the entire Nou Camp on his back.
 
It’s the stopping of counter attacks that winds me up the most. The one where Fred was being pulled by his shirt at the half way line. It should be a red card if you cynically stop counter attacks, with no attempt to play the ball. If they change that rule all of sudden Pep’s ideology would be hampered as well.

Spanish teams are the worse at it. Added with the constant diving at the other end of the pitch. They’re horrible to play against.
 
How did Kounde not get a red card? How did VAR not look at it?

Isn't it that appalling loophole where if the ref has missed it's a foul, but outside of the box, var can't change it unless it's violent conduct.

Cm ahead and on the 18 yard line and thus a pen decision, var can change.