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I slightly preferred the original one, although tbh I didn't think either were amazing.
I find Will Graham more interesting than Lecter, tbh. Manhunter's great.
I watched Infiltrator with Bryan Cranston the other day, about Robert Mazur, the agent that infiltrated Escobar's network back in the 90s by following the financial flows. Cranston does his job very well, as usual, John Leguizamo apparently still exists, and Diane Kruger pops up around midway and turns out to have an important part. Overall, it's a good film, even though it's a bit "by the numbers" for this type of film and there are no big surprises. It's not very memorable, I don't remember anything actually wrong with it (except maybe some of the writing and/or editing which lead to what Mazur's tactic is not being that clear), and it seemed to take a bit of time to take off, but it was ok.
@SteveJ I seem to remember you recommending a book about the hunt for Escobar and saying it was brilliant, am I mistaken? What was the name of the book?
@SteveJ I seem to remember you recommending a book about the hunt for Escobar and saying it was brilliant, am I mistaken? What was the name of the book?
This is the one, mate:
Killing Pablo: The Hunt for the Richest, Most Powerful Criminal in History ~
https://www.amazon.fr/Killing-Pablo...&qid=1476878253&sr=1-1&keywords=killing+pablo
Cool, thanks Steven Jeremiah. I'll probably buy this soon and add it to the always growing pile of unread books I need to attend to.
I just put on Satantango, let's see how this goes...
I am going to watch the 1994 version of "Puppet Masters" tonight. I really liked the original and I have a faint memory of liking the 1994 remake as a kid, it is widely slaughtered by critics though, but they know feck all anyways.
I like the 1993 movie "Body Snatchers" which is largely the same thing.
Also IMDB reminded me of the classic "Screamers" in it's recommendation bar when I searched the movies up, that is a hugely underrated and little known scifi movie you all should watch:
"(SIRIUS 6B, Year 2078) On a distant mining planet ravaged by a decade of war, scientists have created the perfect weapon: a blade-wielding, self-replicating race of killing devices known as Screamers designed for one purpose only -- to hunt down and destroy all enemy life forms But man's greatest weapon has continued to evolve without any human guidance, and now it has devised a new mission: to obliterate all life. Col. Hendricksson (Peter Weller) is commander of a handful of Alliance soldiers still alive on Sirius 6B. Betrayed by his own political leaders and disgusted by the atrocities of this never-ending war, Hendricksson decides he must negotiate a separate peace with the New Economic Bloc's decimated forces. But to do so, he will have to cross a treacherous wasteland where the deadliest threat comes from the very weapons he helped to create."
I like the 1993 movie "Body Snatchers" which is largely the same thing.
Also IMDB reminded me of the classic "Screamers" in it's recommendation bar when I searched the movies up, that is a hugely underrated and little known scifi movie you all should watch:
"(SIRIUS 6B, Year 2078) On a distant mining planet ravaged by a decade of war, scientists have created the perfect weapon: a blade-wielding, self-replicating race of killing devices known as Screamers designed for one purpose only -- to hunt down and destroy all enemy life forms But man's greatest weapon has continued to evolve without any human guidance, and now it has devised a new mission: to obliterate all life. Col. Hendricksson (Peter Weller) is commander of a handful of Alliance soldiers still alive on Sirius 6B. Betrayed by his own political leaders and disgusted by the atrocities of this never-ending war, Hendricksson decides he must negotiate a separate peace with the New Economic Bloc's decimated forces. But to do so, he will have to cross a treacherous wasteland where the deadliest threat comes from the very weapons he helped to create."
Nah, Manhunter is an underappreciated classic that has aged a little but it still highly watchable.
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That tiger scene, whew.
I rather like Manhunter.
Is Michael Mann a great director? I like Collateral, Manhunter, Heat and The Insider but none of them are top tier films, just all very good, and yet whenever I think of Mann I put him alongside other great directors of the 80s/90s.
Alex Cox had Manhunter in his Moviedrome series. That was a great set of films that he picked for the two series. I think I have the BBC book somewhere.
Mann's not trendy and his later film's show a clear decline in quality, I'm not a Mohicans fan but I think Thief is comparable to JP Melville. Heat has something really interesting to say about masculinity and emotional impotency, The Insider and Manhunt are great.
I reckon he's sometimes not taken as serious as he should be because of loud action and loud Pacino.
john Frankenheimer is similarly overlooked.
I reckon he's sometimes not taken as serious as he should be because of loud action and loud Pacino.
john Frankenheimer is similarly overlooked.
He's too hit and miss for me. The Insider is the only film of his that didn't leave me with some sort of ambivalence.
I really like Michael Mann, he's a director that actually interests me even though I agree he's hit and miss. I never understood the hate for Miami Vice which I thought was a great film. I like his attention to the characters in his films and their detachment from their environment.
I really liked Ali when it seems others didn't... I've watched about as many Ali related things as I can get my hands on, and I think the film does a pretty impressive job of caputuring that time period of Ali's life.
I found it boring, from memory. LA Takedown was good- the original TV film version of Heat.
If we are talking Michael Mann, then The Insider and Collateral are both magnificent.
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Gegen die wand (2004) - Short summary from imdb: Cahit is a German Turk in his 40's. He has given up with his life after his beloved wife's death, and he's living a miserable life right in the core of cocaine and excessive drinking. One night, he semi-intentionally crashes into a wall. At the hospital he's taken to, he meets a girl, Sibel, another German Turk who's tried to commit suicide. She's sick and tired of her family's ultra-traditional issues, and asks Cahit to carry out a white marriage with her out of the blue, so that she can become a married woman and get rid of her family's revolting pressure.
First movie I've watched in a long time since I've been pretty busy. It all felt genuine and it's the kind of movie everyone will enjoy. Loved the non-conventional ending and the turkish setting and music.
Gegen die wand (2004) - Short summary from imdb: Cahit is a German Turk in his 40's. He has given up with his life after his beloved wife's death, and he's living a miserable life right in the core of cocaine and excessive drinking. One night, he semi-intentionally crashes into a wall. At the hospital he's taken to, he meets a girl, Sibel, another German Turk who's tried to commit suicide. She's sick and tired of her family's ultra-traditional issues, and asks Cahit to carry out a white marriage with her out of the blue, so that she can become a married woman and get rid of her family's revolting pressure.
First movie I've watched in a long time since I've been pretty busy. It all felt genuine and it's the kind of movie everyone will enjoy. Loved the non-conventional ending and the turkish setting and music.
The stabbing was a bit too far for me. I'd have liked it if they had played that change in a more subtle way
Wasn't collateral a huge failure when it came out.
Probably. But I think it's fecking great. Incredibly underrated. Not one for the cinema buffs perhaps, but for someone who enjoys films in a more escapist, than cerebral or artistic, way; it's one of my favourite movies.
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Gegen die wand (2004) - Short summary from imdb: Cahit is a German Turk in his 40's. He has given up with his life after his beloved wife's death, and he's living a miserable life right in the core of cocaine and excessive drinking. One night, he semi-intentionally crashes into a wall. At the hospital he's taken to, he meets a girl, Sibel, another German Turk who's tried to commit suicide. She's sick and tired of her family's ultra-traditional issues, and asks Cahit to carry out a white marriage with her out of the blue, so that she can become a married woman and get rid of her family's revolting pressure.
First movie I've watched in a long time since I've been pretty busy. It all felt genuine and it's the kind of movie everyone will enjoy. Loved the non-conventional ending and the turkish setting and music.The stabbing was a bit too far for me. I'd have liked it if they had played that change in a more subtle way
I really liked the raw energy of Gegen die wand.
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It's interesting you say that. Because the term underrated gets thrown around so often. I actually find it very conflicting when it comes to rating films. So many of these films which were deemed as flops upon their release, are now termed as underrated. I think Collateral is one such example. Same is the case with Terry Gilliam.
It's interesting you say that. Because the term underrated gets thrown around so often. I actually find it very conflicting when it comes to rating films. So many of these films which were deemed as flops upon their release, are now termed as underrated. I think Collateral is one such example. Same is the case with Terry Gilliam.
How was Satantango? I've had it on my computer for far too long. Always heard it's better watched without any stops but 8 hours is pretty intimidating.
The dumbest and biggest plot hole about the Purge was when Ethan Hawke's house was being held under siege, why didn't he just stick a gun out the window and mow the feckers down?? No, he just let them prance on his lawn for ages in open view while they waited for their equipment to arrive. All that film needed was a sniper and the movie's over in 10 minutes. Why would people be walking down the street when it's open season and everyone is fair game? The neighbours should have picked them off. Still, despite that major gripe, the film was still fairly enjoyable. Anarchy and Election Year are not too bad.
I watched two hours on wednesday. I might put it on again later tonight but I'll try and do a longer sitting this time.
How was Satantango? I've had it on my computer for far too long. Always heard it's better watched without any stops but 8 hours is pretty intimidating.
It's quite challenging, it's so harsh yet so haunting.
Purge brings out the morons. It's ridiculous, like running over brightly lit, wide streets.
Anarchy was better to me, it just has a bit of Escape from New York or The Warriors vibe, plus I liked Frank Grillo as a lead. Now watching Election Year.
Anarchy was the only purge film I liked.
I would argue that the term 'classic' is thrown around even more. Ideal label for a lot of the pretentious crap out there.
Jack Reacher: Never Go back (2016)
Seen it at the Odeon today. Decent enough movie. Don't think I enjoyed it as much as the first Jack Reacher movie. Also pretty much identical to a Jason Bourne movie. You could easily have put Matt Damon in that movie and changed the title to Jason Bourne: Never Go Back...and no-one would have noticed the difference. All the same ingredients and stereotypical characters are there, even down to the cat and mouse play between Reacher and the main antagonist who even gets taken out in similar fashion. If Mr Cruise is still doing all of his own stunts then he da man! The smouldering Smulders is also worth an honourable mention and portrayed her role really well. You could do a lot worse at the movies this month.
I'm giving this a 6.5/10.
Seen it at the Odeon today. Decent enough movie. Don't think I enjoyed it as much as the first Jack Reacher movie. Also pretty much identical to a Jason Bourne movie. You could easily have put Matt Damon in that movie and changed the title to Jason Bourne: Never Go Back...and no-one would have noticed the difference. All the same ingredients and stereotypical characters are there, even down to the cat and mouse play between Reacher and the main antagonist who even gets taken out in similar fashion. If Mr Cruise is still doing all of his own stunts then he da man! The smouldering Smulders is also worth an honourable mention and portrayed her role really well. You could do a lot worse at the movies this month.
I'm giving this a 6.5/10.
Agreed. It seems like a trend amongst cinephiles nowadays, lets dig up an obscure film and label it a classic. The same film that was trashed by the audience when it first released.
I can't take these movies seriously. I've read a lot of Jack Reacher books, and he is described as a 2 metre tall and 2 metre wide man mountain that literally can survive bullets due to his huge pectoral muscles. So who do they choose to play him? Yeah, Cruise the midget.
No. Got good reviews and made a lot of money relative to its budget.
He may not pull off the physique but I think his character portrayal ain't too bad. Who would you recommend?
Good to know. I remember lot of the complains being about the plot. Manhunter is my favourite Michael Mann film anyways.
100% agree. And anyone who calls it as it is has no idea about movies or is ignorant apparently. You've only got to look at the Oscar nods to see the pretentiousness in full effect. Soon as The Artist came out for example, I knew it was going to win an oscar. Even though probably about 20 people have actually seen it. Not denying it's credentials but you just know.
What are you on about? A quick google search shows that it made over $100m worldwide. Those 20 people must have paid an awful lot.
That's about the time Irimias returns and you start getting reverse shots and call backs to earlier scenes, more is revealed and from then on I find it hard to stop watching. Upon finishing it I'll go back and watch entire chapters just because I find it so compelling. The length is something of an albatross, not least because you have to find a spare day, but it can also give entirely the wrong impression. The film is not like one of these tumescent epics that you have to grind your way through, or one of these bloated, director-indulgent pieces of crap that have become industry standard. It's got a rhythm and a laser focus that makes it feel suprisingly efficient. Small scale, big themes.
Just don't be the guy that starts watching something and then loses all credibility because you never finish it like Depardieu in Paris.
You have convinced me to watch it.