I tried watching his recent special filmed at Red Rocks, and I could only take his whiny voice and bitching about everything for about 20 minutes. I didn’t laugh once and decided I wouldn’t want to be around this guy in real life. Which is funny because I went out for drinks with him and a couple friends, and he was the same character just less (way less) abrasive and cocksure. I think his standup is done, I can’t relate to it at all anymore. This movie sounds like a hard pass too.
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There you go. Admittedly it's a small subject size, but I measured my heart rate during the film and spiked pretty high!!
Anyone seen Killers of the flower moon?
People online seem a tad disappointed with it. I’ll be going next weekend with insanely high expectations.
People online seem a tad disappointed with it. I’ll be going next weekend with insanely high expectations.
It'll disappoint you slightly then. It's beautiful &, for the most part, well acted, but it could have been cut down some.
Your last sentence doesn’t really make sense in the context of the one before it…
Makes perfect sense..how others feel about it hasn’t dampened my spirts
I think we watched different films. Kubrick missed the emotional heart of the book entirely.
Interesting. Tbh I’ve haven’t read the book so I can’t judge it compared to the film. After reading your post I did watched a few YouTube videos showing the difference between the two works and yep its a lot. Personally I love Kubrick cynicism and thats for me the warmth of the film. Making Jack into a bitter husband who finally flips out after getting the role/power of a middle manager is brilliant. Telling Shelley Duvall his wife that he will bash her brains in because he needs to honour the contract is peak suburban America and heart warming in the truth it reveals.
They are very different but each brilliant, in my view. Casting Jack Nicholson kinda blew the emotional core out of the water, but he was pretty fantastic in that role, so it's a weird trade off. The Shining is one of my all-time favorite films.
They’re both great in their own right but tonally different. The book is more supernatural with a clear conclusion to the horror elements and a small redemption arc for Jack too.
The movie is more psychological in nature and it works better with Jack Nicholson who nails his role. The movie also spends more time with Jack whereas the book spends a lot of time with Danny (as well as Jack).
Both work.
What’s really interesting though is the movie version of the book sequel (Doctor Sleep) provides closure to both Kubrick’s film and King’s original book. It brings both these different elements together in a neat conclusion.
Not a fan at all of the film at all. Peak shouty Nicholson overacting. I did enjoy Dr Sleep more even though it was rather forgettable. I'd have preferred a more faithful version of the book with a different lead and director.
There was another adaptation which was more faithful to the book they made in the 90s. It’s worth checking out - I saw it ages ago and it was good but preferred Kubrick’s version.
I'm inclined to say Kubrick can make whatever the hell he likes and we should shut up and be thankful for it. I get why Stephen King isn't a big fan of that theory though. Its a bad adaptation but a great movie. I'm not sure I can name a single other Stephen King adaptation that manages to be great (stand by me is one i suppose, there's probably a couple others, most range from terrible to quite good though)
Haven't read the book but The Shining is one of my most rewatched movies. And because of that constant analysis I've started to think Nicholsons performance is overly sensational. From the very start he plays Jack already being "off" and weird.
Whats quite funny to me, If you look at a film made the year before in 1979, Kramer vs Kramer which also has a father mother and son, and substitute the actors from that: Hoffman, Streep and the boy, I think they would have given a more subtle and down to earth performance.
Though perhaps its on purpose from Kubrick as Pvt Leonard in FMJ is also overly the top.
Whats quite funny to me, If you look at a film made the year before in 1979, Kramer vs Kramer which also has a father mother and son, and substitute the actors from that: Hoffman, Streep and the boy, I think they would have given a more subtle and down to earth performance.
Though perhaps its on purpose from Kubrick as Pvt Leonard in FMJ is also overly the top.
To be honest I never read a king novel that I liked so it having almost nothing in common with the book aside from it's basic premise is more of a plus for me than anything really.
The Dead Zone
Misery
Green Mile
Shawshank Repemption
But I don't like Kubrick's films at all.
Misery, Shawshank, Carrie are all great imo
I also quite liked the tv movie adaption of The Mist
Agreed. I know the writer Jed and even despite this film, still struggling to get proper funding for a bigger budget feature whilst bullshit like The Exorcist Believer get made.
Choose Or Die
After finding an old video game, a woman has to constantly made horrific decisions that harm everyone around her or face death herself. A half decent concept that does well on a low budget despite some dodgy effects. Could see this becoming a franchise if it did well enough but to truly pay off the concept, needs a bigger budget. Not a bad 90 minutes fun horror though 6/10
Trolls Band Together
I had loads of fun with this and N*Sync are back with a new song that transported me back to the 90s! Loved it
shamefully gonna give this a 6/10The Creator
Visually stunning, especially considering it was shot on a consumer camera with a distinct style. The narrative is a mixture of various sci-fi films and basically Blade Runner meets The Golden Child. If this film had better exploration of the theme and also more nuanced overall story, this might have been a classic. Instead it is full of plot holes and bare basic story, where a lot of things make no sense or are not explained. But as a silly action sci-fi, it's a really fun film that looks amazing. Just switch your brain off and have fun 7/10
Tried that. Couldn’t. Ended up far too pissed off by the awful plot to enjoy it. Which was a shame. Because it did look great. Insane plot holes though. Amongst the worst I’ve ever seen.
I don't disagree with any of that. I just needed a silly action flick and it delivered on that front.
I watched Extraction 2 for that yesterday. A little dry but it works pretty well for what it's trying to do. 3/5
I'm going to assume we're talking about the Shining here (I can't be bothered checking back). It's true SK hated the movie adaption but after he watched the movie of Doctor Sleep - which is a sequel to the movie Shining, not the book - he felt a lot differently about the film. I was in the audience where he was asked about this and he said that the film of Doctor Sleep had changed his mind about The Shining and gave it a whole new context.
Anyway, I agree with your view of Stand By Me, but I would add Doctor Sleep as a sequel to The Shining, the film. Shawshank and Green Mile are also good adaptations. The film of Shawshank has probably gone on to be something much greater than the story ever was.
The prison scene is breathtaking.
Yeah, I didn't have time to write much more, but the way they present protracted action scenes largely through long oners is pretty cool and engrossing.
Haunted Mansion (2023)
A remake and a far better film than the Eddie Murphy's 2003 original.
With Jared Leto, Owen Wilson & Danny DeVito's star power and Stanfield giving a superb performance, this film tick all the boxes as a Halloween family entertainer. Great acting, good humour and having a good heart, this film is one for all ages.
8/10
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Beast (2022)
Trash. A movie that gets it's kicks from lead characters making one stupid decision after another. Just plain annoying. The dialogues are designed to annoy audiences. Ironic as to how the kid wears a Jurassic Park outfit, yet is the polar opposite from the kids from that movie. Idris does OK and Copley does his usuals great stuff, but there's nothing to save the movie.
4/10
A remake and a far better film than the Eddie Murphy's 2003 original.
With Jared Leto, Owen Wilson & Danny DeVito's star power and Stanfield giving a superb performance, this film tick all the boxes as a Halloween family entertainer. Great acting, good humour and having a good heart, this film is one for all ages.
8/10
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Beast (2022)
Trash. A movie that gets it's kicks from lead characters making one stupid decision after another. Just plain annoying. The dialogues are designed to annoy audiences. Ironic as to how the kid wears a Jurassic Park outfit, yet is the polar opposite from the kids from that movie. Idris does OK and Copley does his usuals great stuff, but there's nothing to save the movie.
4/10
Have you seen The Raid 2, and its prison fight scene in a muddy yard?
Don’t think so. Worth it?
The Shining movie isn't a bad adaptation - it's an excellent adaptation of a book that would be hard to adapt faithfully without looking corny.
The book has a lot more supernatural elements that wouldn't translate well to the big screen but work so expertly in the book because your imagination connects the dots for you. For example - a haunted fire hose (not kidding), hedge animals that chase and change shape, and Jack's deformation into something monstrous. The movie plays more on Jack losing his mind which works really well - the famous line 'All work and no play make Jack a dull boy' isn't in the book. It's a certified Kubrick addition and it works so well.
Also there are a few really good adaptations of King's work -
The Shining, Misery, The Green Mile, The Shawshank Redemption, The Stand (tv movie), Gerald's Game, Stand by Me, The Running Man, 1408, Apt Pupil...off the top of my head.
It's brutal. But fun!
It's really fun and shot like a oner, which is always impressive. I really liked the film but my main issue was that it's just too long. Still really good and worth at least a watch.
Darabont's "The Mist" is great I think.
One of my favourites. It scarred me though.
I think the biggest problem with the Raid movies is they make everything else look a bit crap in comparison.
Re. Stephen King adaptations
I really hated Shawshank Redemption. Hate is too strong a word really, i found it sacharine and kind of boring, everyone else loving it gave me a much firmer opinion (and having to watch it about a dozen times). I didn't list it more because i didn't think of it though. Always thought Running Man was Philip K Dick so learn something new everyday. Misery definitely deserves a mention and is another i forgot, you could probably list off anything Kathy Bates was in actually. The rest i'd file under pretty good rather than great.
I'd say the pretty good films and tv shows hes involved in tend to be easy to enjoy and have mass appeal, almost speilberg like, and i might be being a bit snobbish about them in a similar way. Like even the ropiest productions are kind of enjoyable a lot of the time.
Re. Stephen King adaptations
I really hated Shawshank Redemption. Hate is too strong a word really, i found it sacharine and kind of boring, everyone else loving it gave me a much firmer opinion (and having to watch it about a dozen times). I didn't list it more because i didn't think of it though. Always thought Running Man was Philip K Dick so learn something new everyday. Misery definitely deserves a mention and is another i forgot, you could probably list off anything Kathy Bates was in actually. The rest i'd file under pretty good rather than great.
I'd say the pretty good films and tv shows hes involved in tend to be easy to enjoy and have mass appeal, almost speilberg like, and i might be being a bit snobbish about them in a similar way. Like even the ropiest productions are kind of enjoyable a lot of the time.
Rewatched it last night. Holds up better to repeat viewings than i expected. Its a good movie.
I need to check it out - it’s one I haven’t seen (and haven't read either).
The director actually tied both the book and movie versions together in this movie. The ending in Doctor Sleep is basically the ending from The Shining (novel).
Also which version did you see? I saw the Director's Cut.
That's a good question. I don't think it would be the director's cut - ill hunt this out
I thought Shawshank was pretty ridiculous, and I read the story beforehand. The Green Mile was even worse, Sam Rockwell being the only redeeming feature. I've seen people comment that Shawshank is one of the best movies ever made, and that always makes me sad.
I guess this is why we all love films.
Subjectivity at its finest - one person's number one film is another's most hated.
Same with football really, there will be people on here vehemently defending EtH and those who want him out.
With Shawshank I think it's a masterpiece and a massive improvement on the book, which although good itself is too short and had to be expanded for the film because it was only a novella.
But I'm yet to meet another person who dislikes The Green Mile as much as I do. It's the chorizo of films, massively overrated.
Subjectivity at its finest - one person's number one film is another's most hated.
Same with football really, there will be people on here vehemently defending EtH and those who want him out.
With Shawshank I think it's a masterpiece and a massive improvement on the book, which although good itself is too short and had to be expanded for the film because it was only a novella.
But I'm yet to meet another person who dislikes The Green Mile as much as I do. It's the chorizo of films, massively overrated.
You've met him. TGM is embarrassingly overrated, a literal waste of time to watch.