The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament

I'd rather kps though as my understanding is he would happily forfeit the game than play me. I wouldn't mind Platini being up for grabs ;)
 
Make it happen! :lol:


No way. You have the better time zone and overwhelm with number of posts. I'd rather pass!

I have nothing against Anto either - I just call it like I see it. I voted against him, but PM'd him in the all time draft when he was losing his cool there.
 
No way. You have the better time zone and overwhelm with number of posts. I'd rather pass!

I have nothing against Anto either - I just call it like I see it. I voted against him, but PM'd him in the all time draft when he was losing his cool there.

It's all fun and games NM. I know it sounds rich coming from me, but you seem to take in-game arguments far too seriously. I remember you PMing me now that you mention, I have bugger all idea what game it was or what about. What happens on the poll stays on the poll.
 
It's all fun and games NM. I know it sounds rich coming from me, but you seem to take in-game arguments far too seriously. I remember you PMing me now that you mention, I have bugger all idea what game it was or what about. What happens on the poll stays on the poll.


Nah.. Not in a bad way, but I get annoyed when somebody posts a ton. Tends to take over the thread. Nothing against you though.
 
Was Gio PMed? He was online after Fergus pick but seems to have gone off again
 
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Zico is a brilliant pick, would prefer him to a lot of players that have gone before.

Give me a couple of minutes..


He's possibly the best player since Zidane to be picked and he comes from a pretty decent era on the whole but surely you can appreciate why wide players and centre mids were seen as more of a priority? There's such an abundance of playmakers from a number of decades. I personally just wanted to get the 30s out of the way with a couple of players every voter will know, but I'm thinking I may push the boat out and go all-out United...
 
He's possibly the best player since Zidane to be picked and he comes from a pretty decent era on the whole but surely you can appreciate why wide players and centre mids were seen as more of a priority? There's such an abundance of playmakers from a number of decades. I personally just wanted to get the 30s out of the way with a couple of players every voter will know, but I'm thinking I may push the boat out and go all-out United...

Aye my first two picked planned were Rijkaard and one of Dinho or Cristiano. Really thought Dinho would have stayed.
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona

Cutch : 1. Messi

Stobzilla : 1. Pele

paceme : 1. Cruyff

kps88 : 1. Platini

Jayvin : 1. Best

KM : 1. Beckenbauer

EDogen : 1. Ronaldo

Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles

Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea

AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico

VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento

NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa

antohan : 1. Garrincha 2.Eusebio

Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton

Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi
 
He's possibly the best player since Zidane to be picked and he comes from a pretty decent era on the whole but surely you can appreciate why wide players and centre mids were seen as more of a priority? There's such an abundance of playmakers from a number of decades. I personally just wanted to get the 30s out of the way with a couple of players every voter will know, but I'm thinking I may push the boat out and go all-out United...


Definitely mate, was just pointing out how much I rate him. He's arguably a better option than Zidane in some ways, the added goal threat can be really advantageous IMO.
 
Yeah I was really in two minds with him, didn't exactly plan it from the off but I really don't think I could have had him in the next round as he's a late first round/early second pick at best so couldn't risk it. Like in the last all time draft, he is quite flexible to fit in with many different type of partners and his role's usually quite clear cut to the voters which makes it easier. Only thing stopping me was the fact that he's from the 60s and there's a wealth of talent in that pool some of which I might need to replace in later.

The 60s bit is what got me, you can't drop Rijkaard so your next pick from that era has to be perfect! Good point about it being clear what his role is though, makes a big difference for sure.
cnut, he was the one I was in two minds about. Yes, it was why I hated the Rijkaard pick and I noticed you also noted that so was half expecting it.

Garrincha was too good to turn down though, a 30s man you would take all the way to the final, just like your man there.
Garrincha was a no-brainer for me! Slim pickings in that era for real vote-winners and he's easily one of the standouts in his position. I would've been having him all day long if you didn't. I'm not sure I'd call him a flexible pick though. I sort of wanted him just because he'd force me to have a clear, fairly rigid setup in mind actually.
Great picks Brwned. A Utd spine developing maybe!

Charlton is versatile as well. Very useful if unexpected results pop up later in the draft
Both are very versatile and I've no doubt Charlton played outside left while Edwards played wing half in a couple of games but I'm planning on keeping them in the middle no matter what.
 
Definitely mate, was just pointing out how much I rate him. He's arguably a better option than Zidane in some ways, the added goal threat can be really advantageous IMO.


I'd be one of those that would be willing to argue he was the better player and he offers a bit more versatility, but it's Zidane...he's the ultimate crowd pleaser. In my mind Zico's just a big name to the majority of voters, he has the goal record to back it up but I don't think that's enough to put him up there with the other superstars. I reckon he's no more of a vote-winner than Ronaldinho.
 
I'd be one of those that would be willing to argue he was the better player and he offers a bit more versatility, but it's Zidane...he's the ultimate crowd pleaser. In my mind Zico's just a big name to the majority of voters, he has the goal record to back it up but I don't think that's enough to put him up there with the other superstars. I reckon he's no more of a vote-winner than Ronaldinho.

I'd be willing to argue that too.

From my point of view, he's as, if not more, likely to affect the game as Zidane and Ronaldinho.
 
In my mind I've always had Platini, Zico and Charlton at the level just after maradona and di stefano and a good distance ahead of the rest (might be forgetting someone here I think). Zico's biggest issue is the lack of achievements at the big stage. Had Brazil won that 1982 WC with THAT midfield he would have surely been rated a lot highly. Think he's quite underrated given how effective and complete he was in so many ways and same goes for a particular other Brazilian who's a bit more recent yet to be picked. These two Brazilians should be rated among the best to come out of the country IMO.
 
The 60s bit is what got me, you can't drop Rijkaard so your next pick from that era has to be perfect! Good point about it being clear what his role is though, makes a big difference for sure.

Indeed, I noticed last time I never had to explain what he was doing or who was doing the grafting in midfield. With Matthaus people have seen different versions of him, with Edwards people assume he is being used well, with Rijkaard they just know.

Garrincha was a no-brainer for me! Slim pickings in that era for real vote-winners and he's easily one of the standouts in his position. I would've been having him all day long if you didn't. I'm not sure I'd call him a flexible pick though. I sort of wanted him just because he'd force me to have a clear, fairly rigid setup in mind actually.

That was my worry as there are bugger all wingers out there but it does indeed make it easier to narrow down the gameplan!
 
Wow this is going fast.. just got home, give me 5 minutes to update on all info.
 
I'd be one of those that would be willing to argue he was the better player and he offers a bit more versatility, but it's Zidane...he's the ultimate crowd pleaser. In my mind Zico's just a big name to the majority of voters, he has the goal record to back it up but I don't think that's enough to put him up there with the other superstars. I reckon he's no more of a vote-winner than Ronaldinho.

Big vote winner, which is actually the better player people could argue to death, but there's no way Zidane should have gone before Zico, not given these constraints.
 
Caught red-handed. Any lingering doubts I had though were erased by reading some of the old-timers' comments on the big man.

Italia 90?

Good pick that, you've basically gone and got Cutch's All-time final CB pairing there!

Covered your ass re: strikers as well.
Well I don't suppose they had Panini albums in the 1950s. Eusebio and Charles were my next realistic choices after Baresi
 
Well I don't suppose they had Panini albums in the 1950s. Eusebio and Charles were my next realistic choices after Baresi

I don't remember that particular album having a greats section, that's why.
 
Well you know I like players who can play in multiple positions.

I pick Paolo Maldini

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Isotope : 1. Maradona

Cutch : 1. Messi

Stobzilla : 1. Pele

paceme : 1. Cruyff

kps88 : 1. Platini

Jayvin : 1. Best

KM : 1. Beckenbauer

EDogen : 1. Ronaldo 2. Maldini

Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles

Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea

AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico

VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento

NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa

antohan : 1. Garrincha 2.Eusebio

Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton

Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi
 
He was already gone when you said you would go against the grain and pick modern players. I understand now.
Hahaa.. Yeah. One of the best recent players, and the options are surprisingly not many. He could be on the final, and won't be out of place. Big loss.
 
Indeed, I noticed last time I never had to explain what he was doing or who was doing the grafting in midfield. With Matthaus people have seen different versions of him, with Edwards people assume he is being used well, with Rijkaard they just know.
It's also a good pick because most will assume, with reasonable justification, that Rijkaard will do a job on even the most gifted attacking midfielders in the draft.
 
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