Better than Keane and Robson? Big shout that.
The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament
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Better than Keane and Robson? Big shout that.
Probably not on here, but a lot of folk who've seen them all rate Souness at the top of those three.
Exactly. Looking through other eras, the 80s is one of the weakest, if not for those Barca's midgets. It's one of the era you want to get done earlier.
Just got home.. this might be bad for me later on but a personal favourite, I must have him.
I pick Lilian Thuram
I pick Lilian Thuram
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman.
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman.
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho
Just got home.. this might be bad for me later on but a personal favourite, I must have him.
I pick Lilian Thuram
Good pick IMO. Not many top quality right backs out there and gives you the option of playing him at CB if you manage to bag two of those. Carlos Alberto will be up for grabs come the next reinforcements!
KM picks a true genius and one of the most incredible goalscorers the game will ever see. Quite fond of his ex-/new team mate Michael too, apparently.
“Laudrup is the best player I have ever played with and the fifth best in the history of the game,”
“Laudrup is the best player I have ever played with and the fifth best in the history of the game,”
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman.
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman.
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho
KM picks a true genius and one of the most incredible goalscorers the game will ever see. Quite fond of his ex-/new team mate Michael too, apparently.
“Laudrup is the best player I have ever played with and the fifth best in the history of the game,”
I have absolutely no idea how that will work given KMs suggested defence. Looking forward to it though. I may even not pick someone to see if he can pull it off.
Thuram's a near bulletproof choice at right-back.
feck this is depressing 
You feckers are taking everyone I want
You feckers are taking everyone I wantI am very happy with getting Thuram but the negative is, I am out of 70s picks.
Has moved well here today lads. Good work
Yeah excellent speed over both days. Stops here I guess, as jayvin will be around only after a few hours.
True but you would take both of them to the final, so it's not that bad a thing IMO
Problem with him is that people assume he'll offer feck all going forward, purely because he is so good defensively.
Two of the very best so you cant complain!
I do prefer him at CB more than RB and find it strange sometimes that people think of him not good enough to play as CB and never question him at RB. For me he played his best football at CB or on the right of a 3 man CB line, so I find him brilliant in that role. Not to say he was much inferior at RB though which is why he's always a great draft pick.
It was the opposite in the last draft, a whole page of a thread was wasted talking about Thuram 'preferring' to play CB.
He's brilliant in both positions.
That's where he played a lot of his best football with Parma, but I think he is defensively the soundest right-back of all-time.
Depends really. If you are relying on your fullback to provide most of the width playing a diamond or a narrow formation, he's not really the best choice. Odd runs aside, he won't exactly provide genuine width every time the team attacks. He's perfect for a right CB in a 3 man defense though. Alternatively if you have a very attacking winger who is not gonna help out much at the back, he'd be great as a fullback who won't need a lot of help in handling most wide players.
feck this is depressing
Messi-Nesta-Breitner
Ehem
Possibly yea, though as I said in most cases the fullback's role doesn't finish with defending. I think Carlos Alberto was also pretty solid at the back, doesn't get enough credit for it because he was also excellent going forward but he could handle a deadly winger. Then there's Zanetti who you can put in the mix, don't think he's much worse than Thuram at defending, at par at least. Few other names I can't take now, but yea Thuram's up there.
Why do you keen saying stuff like this, your team is looking great
The ones in there are fine. Not huge vote-winners bar Garrincha, but I have always been able to live with that. It's the prospects going forward that I worry about. I could have done with more 30s and 40s picks, there are basically 3-4 players there I would happily start. The 80s are fecking hideous, good call from you there early on.
Hopefully good picks, but finding this draft a bit tricky in truth. Very difficult to plan
Maybe I should've had 20s instead of the 80s
My thoughts as well.
When I see him at right back no matter the left winger I think they will cancel each other out and he'll do a job on them.
Eusebio as well mate, if you sell him properly (which should not be hard at all) there is only three of four better up top IMO
I agree on the RCB in a three-man defence. Simply unrivalled. As a traditional CB or RB there is competition and caveats, but RCB there's no contest IMO.
Probably the most interesting thing is how poorly the 80s stacks up compared to other decades, which gives some legitimacy to the old, misty-eyed buggers who claim it was all better back in the day.
Maybe I should've had 20s instead of the 80s
The 20s are fecking awesome mate! I kept bumping into players and cursing their parents for not being more patient.
The 80s are a mixed bag. A few standouts and then a whole load of players which everyone will know, and ironically that usually winds up being a bad thing because everyone can remember a certain game and feckup while most of the oldies people only know from top form in World Cup mode, not a cold midweek night at Stoke.
Yeah shame that players like Puskas and Di Stefano have missed out but then it give it a different look from the all time one we had previously and few of the modern names mix things up nicely.
See above. I do agree though, I'm actually looking at some midfielders and they would walk into our midfield ahead of any of our targets, inc. the impossible ones. On here? Some old chap you've never heard of or are only familiar with them as a crap manager.
Sod it, I'm going to go against the grain here.
Not sure about mixing up nicely, they all look like square pegs in round holes to me, very few complete footballers as well. Basically, if you have 3-4 players you are laughing and if you don't you'd better have room for them and the opportunity to nab them. Otherwise, curtains. (shame EDogen already has a right back)
By mixing it up I mean making it a lot trickier to pick because as you said it is more about picking the one who is least remembered for his mistakes than picking the one who was the best at his peak.
Or you know, just pick a top United name and have a lot more assurance.
Or you know, just pick a top United name and have a lot more assurance.
That's because we se the 80s players every week and rip em apart. The likes of Best etc. would be vilified and not loved if they were in this era IMO.
Same with somebody from the 30 and 40s. We don't know enough about them to hate. We only have teh stories and some footage, which is usually good footage.
Yeah I think the familiarity factor works both ways - for our superstar attacking players like Messi, Iniesta and Ronaldo - and against defenders whose mistakes we've all seen and do not possess the same veneer of invincibility of many of the old timers.
KM asleep. I think he is in India.