Oi, no slagging players in PMs, we want it all out here in the open!
The Redcafe Champions League Draft
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So TheGame it is.. looking forward to a great game!
And Theon, that was fun
And Theon, that was fun
Did you get my PM?
So TheGame it is.. looking forward to a great game!
And Theon, that was fun
Thought the fix was in when it was down to the last 4, Anto knew I didn't want to go againt you!Snow vs. Fergus'son - fergus' son
Nahealai vs. Gio - Gio
Ralaks vs. Feeky - Ralaks, just
Tito vs. Stob - Tito
kps vs. isotope - Isotope, just
akash vs. jake - jake
TheGame vs. EDogen - Edogen
BD/NM vs. Theon - theon
Games 3 and 4 are too close to call, it will most likely go down entirely to how the managers prepare and execute on the day.
Game 1 will be carnage.
The rest I think Gio, kps, jake, EDogen and Theon go through.
Jake has an awesome team in the end and he started quite badly with Cantona who I think went too early for one, but also isn't an ideal partner for Messi IMO. But he came back so well and did an amazing draft..
Still, all comes down to how you argue it in the match day threads! Alot of people on here tend to read them so you will win votes by making a coherent tactic and presenting your players well. That is what I will largely vote on anyway and I remember Pat saying something similar, for one.
I do think there's good foundations there which can get supercharged with three top picks, but you got one of the worst draws you could have hoped for!
Carnage as in war of words?
He told me
So we just had a little bit of fun!feck yeah..
Now, knowing my luck.. it will be me against Theon
After the drubbing you gave my boys in that PM it's the game I have been looking forward too
feck yeah..
Now, knowing my luck.. it will be me against Theon
You know your luck a bit too well.
Knew it would be me versun Theon. We have discussed tactics and I gave him my thoughts on his team.. LOL
Snow vs. Fergus'son - Snow comfortably
Nahealai vs. Gio - Gio if Nahealai lined up as he showed earlier in the thread.
Ralaks vs. Feeky - Very even it is impossible to predict the outcome.
Tito vs. Stob - Again too hard to decide and it will be down to strats/pitching.
kps vs. isotope - KPS will edge an even game.
akash vs. jake - Jakes will have a strong edge due to scan-voters favoring his side as they are all very recognizable.
TheGame vs. EDogen - Edogen
BD/NM vs. Theon - Very even and it will depend on how well taken Giuly is by the voters.
Nahealai vs. Gio - Gio if Nahealai lined up as he showed earlier in the thread.
Ralaks vs. Feeky - Very even it is impossible to predict the outcome.
Tito vs. Stob - Again too hard to decide and it will be down to strats/pitching.
kps vs. isotope - KPS will edge an even game.
akash vs. jake - Jakes will have a strong edge due to scan-voters favoring his side as they are all very recognizable.
TheGame vs. EDogen - Edogen
BD/NM vs. Theon - Very even and it will depend on how well taken Giuly is by the voters.
I'm better than Giuly
You picked great players but 4 central playing midfielders in your first 5 tells me you want to play them all. Crespo and Aguero is a nice partnership but relying solely on wing-backs to provide width seems very risky. He is playing with Figo and Giuly, two wingers, and wingers are a great way to push back offensive wing-backs as they leave too much space behind them then.
You would have been the favorite against any team without proper wingers but you got unlucky with the draft.
Love how anticipated my game vs Cutch is, all because I don't particularly rate Gallas at RB!
Cheers I think it's a decent team, but behind the likes of Gio and EDogen who drafted so well.
Yeaah the diamond is like that, but I set out trying to do that for some reason - I just really like that AC side so wanted to do it here, it was always the intention and it will defo cost me a few votes, but I knew about the drawbacks when going for it.
Candela and Cafu were both incredibly attacking at Roma - more so that anything Italy played with and they did brilliantly at Euro 2012, so I reckon I've got decent fullbacks for it....
Yeaah the diamond is like that, but I set out trying to do that for some reason - I just really like that AC side so wanted to do it here, it was always the intention and it will defo cost me a few votes, but I knew about the drawbacks when going for it.
Candela and Cafu were both incredibly attacking at Roma - more so that anything Italy played with and they did brilliantly at Euro 2012, so I reckon I've got decent fullbacks for it....
fecksake. I gotta deal with "The All In"
Exciting draw though. Snow v Fergus was the one we all wanted to see
Exciting draw though. Snow v Fergus was the one we all wanted to see
Like I said I don't argue with your quality, your players will do their jobs well just the obvious negative of playing a strategy which is hard-countered by your opponents strategy.
It is like playing 4-4-2 vs 4-2-3-1. Even if 4-4-2 is a solid formation it gets countered by 4-2-3-1 as you lose the majority of possession as you chose one more striker instead of one more midfielder.
If you can adjust your strategy slightly or pitch the idea of how you will beat him even with your strategy being countered then we will see. Personally I think you have a better chance playing on the counter against him as Giuly and Figo are probably easier to constrain than Crespo and Aguero with Iniestas behind them.
The idea that one formation is fundamentally better than another without considering any other factors is stupid to say the least.
Yeah we'll leave it for the matchday thread, but there isn't a chance I would play on the counter. Pirlo/Gattuso/De Rossi/Iniesta would dominate possession against the best of midfields and the likes of Gilberto Silva are a couple of levels below that, and Lampard isn't a possession player in any respect.
Not what I said if that is what you mean otherwise I agree.
I disagree with what you said. "Hard-countered"?!? Give me a break.
You said I should play on the counter, which means ceding possession
He's no Michael Tarnat i'll give you that
Touché.
Atleast if you win you know that Makelele will be available for selection, being the most important member of that Chelsea defence I think you could do with him.
Not because you can't dominate it, rather because even with high possession you will have troubles getting chances as Cafu/Candela will be pushed back alternatively Figo and Giuly will have a free counter every time they get the ball to them fast.
So we got Theon. Easy.
Yeah the latter is more likely, but that is exactly why you need two 'Carilleros'/shuttlers in the diamond formation - very specific players to close down the widemen and prevent that threat from the wings, it is exactly what Gattuso and De Rossi are natural at.
If you had different players who aren't suited to the role then I would agree it is risky, so even someone exceptional like Xavi wouldn't work in one of the diamond CM positions because he isn't suited the job he needs to do - close down and make tackles.
Milan and Italy have had exceptional success with the diamond, they have obviously come up against 4-5-1's before.
From assistant manager to rival..
You have gone from assistant to rival.
This is going to be Mourinho vs AVB in the coming season!
Formations in reality however take a long time to get good at so it isn't very common to change formations/tactics too much in individual games(even if some rare managers does it.). That aspect of football does not exist in fantasy drafts where the idea is that the formations instantly click as well as they can do.
In reality you pick the formation and tactic which is best for your players and teams for the season or maybe even a 3 year period. Whatever formation and strategy you use in a season there will be a lot who work very well against you but there it is a numbers games.
Like I said I don't think he will automatically win because he has a tactic/formation that counters yours, I said he will edge it if people rate Giuly highly and lose it if they don't think Giuly can use the space behind the wing-back.
Pick Angelo Di Livio