The Redcafe Champions League Draft

Excellent pick, why on earth did you want de Rossi and Schweinsteiger ahead of him?


Alongside anto.. De Rossi/Schweini with Vieira and Lampard would be amongstrongest in the draft IMO. I don't like the pass,pass,pass midfields. I like some steel. Anyway, I'm off to prepare for travel tomorrow. Leave thoughts on the team so far.
 
Because he is a 20 goal a man from midfield, can pass, score and tackle. If he wasn't a Chelsea player he would be one of my favorites.

Just look at the players that have been picked before him in his position. Zidane, Riquelme, Rui Costa, Del Piero (maybe), Rivaldo (maybe), Kaka. Only 4 players that you can definitely say we're picked ahead of him. Some teams aren't playing with an AMC. Some have yet to choose one and players like Del Piero and Rivaldo could play there but aren't necessarily gonna. It's a matter of preference/style of play/link up.
 
Yeah Lampard is a AM option, wouldn't neccessarily compare him to de Rossi or Bastian.
 
Alongside anto.. De Rossi/Schweini with Vieira and Lampard would be amongstrongest in the draft IMO. I don't like the pass,pass,pass midfields. I like some steel. Anyway, I'm off to prepare for travel tomorrow. Leave thoughts on the team so far.

If you have Drogba it makes a lot more sense that you get Lampard than worry about who partners Drogba so he can go forward. It's not like you should be trying to get your final midfield pair already set in stone. There are at least a dozen players you can pick alongside Vieira and with Lampard also in the mix I would consider that a strong midfield trio.

You may have actually dodged a bullet, it's not a bad thing for your midfield unit NOT to be the finished article as you don't know what recruitment opportunities will be presented to you as you go through the knockouts. How many times do we see people end up with a zillion strikers or DMs just because they keep picking improvements and those replaced are benched permanently?
 
Yeah Lampard is a AM option, wouldn't neccessarily compare him to de Rossi or Bastian.

I'm not, I'm considering the midfield trio and not seeing what great loss it is not to have Schweinsteiger or De Rossi when you can have Vieira and Lampard behind Drogba.
 
It's actually a different way of saying the same as Snow: different teams, different midfields, strategies and ways they will gel together. It made more sense for him to get Lampard, while it made more sense for Theon to get de Rossi.
 
The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu
 
Leave him to it, there's always 1 or 2 who just try to collect as many no. 10s as possible. They only ever seem to realise it when they have to put it all on a teamsheet. :wenger:
 
I like my spine. Little worried about them being seen as bland though.
 
Just seeing how the 4 non CL winner thing is going, all of Ralaks so far have won it!
 
That could be tricky to solve!

Yeah won't be easy, that's why I was quite happy with my first three, got rid of that headache for me. Only if Enrique lasted, would have given me so many flexible options with my later picks if I managed to get him.

As it is, worst comes to worst, il pick a keeper that hasn't won it so I'm not forced to compromise any quality in my outfield.
 
I like my spine. Little worried about them being seen as bland though.

Not bland, very PL, you need some inhos there to add pizzazz. Kidding. Well, not really. By bland I think you mean functional but not overly exciting. Functional works best in early stages though but you need to add X-factor to win. The key thing there is Drogba, there are more exciting options and at that point Lampard isn't as appealing. It is what happens every time someone goes with the Chelsea model, you need to leave room to transform it into a more exciting side.
 
Absolutely devastating at his peak at Parma and Lazio, former most valuable player in the world and second highest scorer for Argentina

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Who ws it that had Messi in the all-time one? It was the exact same situation and somehow Messi ended up playing right wing :lol:

To be fair, in the all-time one Messi was competing against players who rival him as the best ever. In this draft no one is close (bar one or two votes). He can place him on the wing in the old Messi role easy peasy if he wants. We all know he operates in the same space no matter where he is positioned on paper.
 
Not bland, very PL, you need some inhos there to add pizzazz. Kidding. Well, not really. By bland I think you mean functional but not overly exciting. Functional works best in early stages though but you need to add X-factor to win. The key thing there is Drogba, there are more exciting options and at that point Lampard isn't as appealing. It is what happens every time someone goes with the Chelsea model, you need to leave room to transform it into a more exciting side.

The idea is to add some spice now yeah..
 
Not bland, very PL, you need some inhos there to add pizzazz. Kidding. Well, not really. By bland I think you mean functional but not overly exciting. Functional works best in early stages though but you need to add X-factor to win. The key thing there is Drogba, there are more exciting options and at that point Lampard isn't as appealing. It is what happens every time someone goes with the Chelsea model, you need to leave room to transform it into a more exciting side.

If you are going for that 4-5-1 model then wingers is where you need to add the flair, someone like Ronaldinho if you can pick him up would make it devastating.
 
Yeah won't be easy, that's why I was quite happy with my first three, got rid of that headache for me. Only if Enrique lasted, would have given me so many flexible options with my later picks if I managed to get him.

As it is, worst comes to worst, il pick a keeper that hasn't won it so I'm not forced to compromise any quality in my outfield.

Yeah, I noticed you had that angle sorted. I'm surprised Luis Enrique has been considered a 5th round pick here, I would be cumming in my pants if I got him 4th and would be finding it really hard to let him slip at 3rd. One of my favourite players ever though, so I'm biased.
 
If you are going for that 4-5-1 model then wingers is where you need to add the flair, someone like Ronaldinho if you can pick him up would make it devastating.

Yeah. I like Figo. One of the best wingers ever and can play on either wing. Let's get thru the draft and round 1 before talking about pickups!
 
Had Theon down for a striker this round. Good pick up.

It was a tough decision to do it now because so many of you are sorted for forwards that I might have been able to hold off a bit longer, but mehh
 
Yeah, I noticed you had that angle sorted. I'm surprised Luis Enrique has been considered a 5th round pick here, I would be cumming in my pants if I got him 4th and would be finding it really hard to let him slip at 3rd. One of my favourite players ever though, so I'm biased.

I love him too but think he would be a little underrated so didn't go for him earlier. I was about two picks away from getting him, would've been a masterstroke if it worked!
 
To be fair, in the all-time one Messi was competing against players who rival him as the best ever. In this draft no one is close (bar one or two votes). He can place him on the wing in the old Messi role easy peasy if he wants. We all know he operates in the same space no matter where he is positioned on paper.

That's what was really weird, everyone in that team seemed to be positioned in the "wrong place" so that they could all fit together. When you tried to picture how they would play it made no sense. I think both sides actually changed their formations about three times in the first half hour and made several subs. It was really really funny that game.
 
So I am thinking about partnership here.. I will have Arjen Robben.

He will link up well with RvP.

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I love him too but think he would be a little underrated so didn't go for him earlier. I was about two picks away from getting him, would've been a masterstroke if it worked!

He scored a goal every other game under Robson and was a massive big game player. Almost a 1 in 2 European record in his entire Barca career. From midfield.

Yes, if you got him on turn 7 that would be epic.
 
The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique 6. Robben
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi 6. Crespo
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu
 
He scored a goal every other game under Robson and was a massive big game player. Almost a 1 in 2 European record in his entire Barca career. From midfield.

Yes, if you got him on turn 7 that would be epic.

I meant as my 5th round pick.

Yeah, scored plenty of el Classico goals too!
 
Generalising. Has someone picked one of his two fullbacks though? Neither won the CL.

Like I said, only 1/4 is available. Carvalho and Cannavaro have been picked and Kelly is ineligible. That only leaves Capdevila.