Here’s me hoping it’s just a reflection of Mike going to that dark place in his mind that he always talked about going to pre-fights.
I don't know if you can read much into that response, apart from how ridiculous it is, but it's potentially the words of somebody who knows they're about to ruin their legacy a bit by taking part in a sham fight. I hope I'm wrong.
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The whole thing is a bit of a farce - even Tyson’s last fight in that “Legends Only League”, the undercard had Jake Paul fighting a basketball player. Wasn’t the whole premise legend exhibitions?
If Jake Paul wins he’s beat a 58 year old Tyson who lord knows has had a lifetime of demons. If Paul loses then he’s lost to one of the greatest to ever do it.
There’s literally no skin in the game, it’s a pure financial endeavour that won’t even provide an entertaining fight. Do we even know how seriously Tyson is “really” treating it?
I might watch it afterwards but I’m not watching live, and under no excitement to see it. It’s moreso the morbid curiosity of seeing what Tyson offers today.
The whole influencer thing is all a bit poisonous. At least Logan had the good grace to move to wrestling - not a knock on it, it has its place. But they’re interested in coverage and showmanship; Logan realised early that going WWE would be the right venue for that. And not just spinning the wheels fighting other influencers, retired big names or lower-ranked journeymen. He was never going to fight a Usyk - but he could do a 30-date arena tour fighting Brock Lesner and Co.
It’s not even that they’re complete jokes - Jake Paul is a decent fighter, to a low standard. With the high production values you want a great fight, or a total freak show, not some middling Semi-Pro antics in an arena.
I can’t even say “well it’s good to get eyes and attention on the sport” because it’s the wrong sort of attention and isn’t spurring any great interest in the rest of the sport. For all of the faults and criticisms that can be levied at Middle Eastern money in the sport at least they’re delivering top-billed events and decent cards that could drive positive attention to Boxing overall.
If Jake Paul wins he’s beat a 58 year old Tyson who lord knows has had a lifetime of demons. If Paul loses then he’s lost to one of the greatest to ever do it.
There’s literally no skin in the game, it’s a pure financial endeavour that won’t even provide an entertaining fight. Do we even know how seriously Tyson is “really” treating it?
I might watch it afterwards but I’m not watching live, and under no excitement to see it. It’s moreso the morbid curiosity of seeing what Tyson offers today.
The whole influencer thing is all a bit poisonous. At least Logan had the good grace to move to wrestling - not a knock on it, it has its place. But they’re interested in coverage and showmanship; Logan realised early that going WWE would be the right venue for that. And not just spinning the wheels fighting other influencers, retired big names or lower-ranked journeymen. He was never going to fight a Usyk - but he could do a 30-date arena tour fighting Brock Lesner and Co.
It’s not even that they’re complete jokes - Jake Paul is a decent fighter, to a low standard. With the high production values you want a great fight, or a total freak show, not some middling Semi-Pro antics in an arena.
I can’t even say “well it’s good to get eyes and attention on the sport” because it’s the wrong sort of attention and isn’t spurring any great interest in the rest of the sport. For all of the faults and criticisms that can be levied at Middle Eastern money in the sport at least they’re delivering top-billed events and decent cards that could drive positive attention to Boxing overall.
I'd like to see this too.
I fail to see why Jake Paul thinks fighting Mike Tyson would ever be a good idea. Even if he is 58 years old.
Because in his mind and those of his simpleton followers he is fighting Mike Tyson, one of the greatest boxers of all time.
I keep reading that this is dangerous for Tyson because of his age, but I'm pretty sure he'd still beat the shit out of most fit 27 year olds who can't box very well? Or does Paul have good enough fundamentals to not get seriously hit? I reckon a full force punch from Tyson still should be able knock Paul down. But that wont matter if he can't hit him though.
I'm almost certainly going to be left with the same underwhelming feeling when I stayed up until 4am to watch McGregor vs Mayweather but I'm gonna do it anyway.
I've still got like a 1% hope Tyson just forgets this is a mess about and goes into proper boxing mode when the bell rings and absolutely splatters him.
Not sure about the no knockout clause Jake has in the contracts, hopefully some millionaire will offset it so Tyson can kill him.
It's a dream, I know.
Not sure about the no knockout clause Jake has in the contracts, hopefully some millionaire will offset it so Tyson can kill him.
It's a dream, I know.
Jake got his head boxed off by Tommy Fury.
That's all you need to know.
That's all you need to know.
In fairness, he’s improved a bit since then. He can punch a bit and is a gym rat by all accounts but he is quite flat footed and lacks any real head movement which reminds you he’s not properly schooled.
It’s the ‘taking over boxing’ sh*te that winds me up more than anything. He’s only fought a couple of legit boxers, one of which he lost to and even the MMA fighters haven’t been strikers.
I think the worry with Tyson is fitness. He’s an older man that in his spare time smokes bucket loads of weed and takes mushrooms. Original Tyson would obviously murder him. He’s still got the boxing fundamentals of course I just think we may see Jake hugging him as much as possible to stop Tyson having much success when they get close and then Jake trying to box at range. We all know Tyson is the better boxer but the age difference and life style of Tyson could be what stops him from knocking him out cold.
I don’t think I’ll be surprised to wake up to almost any result if I’m honest. Tyson KO, Paul KO, back and forth scrap, boring points decision, draw, Tyson DQ after biting him…none of those would be a surprise.
Id be massively surprised if it's anything other than a Jake Paul win.
Just seen the slap 
Jake's legs nearly go
Jake's legs nearly go Too much drugs and shots to the head. He's like sharp but mentally bananas.
Nearly 20 years ago Tyson was being beaten so badly by a mediocre fighter called Kevin McBride that he tried to headbutt and injure his opponent to bring an end to the fight. When that didn't work he just quit.
A couple of decades on he's taking on a guy who's not much worse than McBride who has stage managed the show.
Join the dots.
So is this going to be on Netflix to watch back in the morning? Or only showing it live.
Tyson's probably in a better place than he was 20 years ago, although it's probably just me hoping Jake is knocked out. There's a decent chance that Tyson forgets it's staged half way through the fight though.
McBride was such a crap fighter too - I’m struggling to think of any fighter I’ve seen with slower hands.
What are predictions for the Taylor fight? I see most of the UK press is going Taylor, but I have a suspicion this might be a fight too far against another hall of famer. It'll be an all-out scrap like the first one though.
I actually think both Tyson and Paul benefit from this in terms of clout. Jake Paul because he gets to say he fought one of the most renowned names in boxing history while being seen as a gimmicky boxer himself and Mike Tyson because he is fighting someone young, fresh and the current face of boxing (as far as influencers go) so it keeps him relevant.
I think Serrano wins this - hometown crowd etc.
Taylor doesnt stop opponenents - so it will go to the end with Serrano winning - on split.
I thought she got away with murder holding in the second Cameron fight and is probably on the slide a little bit now.
I see another close decision but wouldn’t like to pick a winner.
Not only this but a few years ago Holyfield looked in great shape and then Vitor Belfort knocked him out in 2 minutes in a boxing match
I think the one upside for Tyson is the $15.7m he’ll make from this farce. For relevance, he could’ve been JP’s sparring partner or trainer, without having to resort to this shambles of a bout. The worst part is that if Paul wins, he’ll be able to go around saying he beat “the baddest man on the planet” and one of the greatest, most feared heavyweights of all time. Giving further credibility to his claim of being a legit boxing phenomenon. That’s what the Tyson name carries. No mind that Tyson is a nearly 60 year old man, with years of drink and drug abuse, and depression behind him. A man that has no business getting in a ring with a 27 year old, even semi-pro boxer.
If you put Paul in the ring with even the most mediocre of current professional heavyweights - say anyone in the top 30 - he’d get pulverised to the point where I would fear for his long term health. But tonight he’s going to fight a name (and a name only) that will add respect to his resume, and help extend this charade. No matter that his opponent is only a handful of years away from qualifying for his senior citizen card. That said, I am sure that if, even at 58, Tyson lands his trademark duck, weave, right to the body, right uppercut combo, then its lights out for Paul. I’d also bet my left nut that’ll never be thrown, let alone landed, at anything close to full power.
This entire thing is grotesque. There are no winners from this, only losers. It’s shambolic, laughable and denigrating to the sport of boxing. It’s more than likely to be choreographed and staged, than a true bout, and everything from the moment they announced it, to the moment this whole circus is over is a shame upon the sport.
Yes, I’ll be watching.
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Surprised to see Jake is the overwhelming favourite with the bookmakers.
He's half Tyson's age, I think this is the reason. Same age Tyson would have killed him
Tie him up and lean on him for for a couple rounds and Tyson will be absolutely exhausted.
I mean Mike is 58 years old... he was shot to pieces 20 years ago and getting KO'd by domestic level HWs then.
Jake Paul has bang average (if that) technical skills but is a pretty good athlete, can do 10 x 3s at a decent pace and clearly has decent power.
That's enough to put a beating on a pensioner I'm afraid. I went back and watched a few highlights of Mike's exhibition with RJJ and the speed, reactions, balance, fluidity just isn't there anymore. And that was 4 years ago and he's had well documented health problems since.
The fact this is a 'pro' bout (I use that lightly consider it's 8 x 2s and 14oz gloves) is disgusting. I'm hoping the short rounds and pillow gloves will protect Mike, but I can see him getting badly hurt in this unfortunately.
Between this dude and andrew tate I'm not sure which one I dislike the most. Annoying bellends. What's the beard for cushioning?
I don't know maybe its copium on my end but I think Jake is underestimating the hate he will get if he is stood over a knocked out nearly 60 year old Tyson. This won't be internet hate either that he already gets but something way past that. I don't think it'll turn in to the sort of thing like with Floyd just to tune in to watch him lose either. I'm obviously not comparing Jake fecking Paul to Larry Holmes but fight fans never forgave him for beating an old Ali, he got generational hate for that. When you beat an icon that people love to a pulp he's taken clown show too far, pro and ex fighters will be out for blood. Maybe Im being naive because its what I want to happen but we'll see.
You ARE being naive.
Tyson would gladly lay down for Paul to gloat over if he's paid enough, and people will love it. This is nothing but a pantomime. Trying to pretend it's an actual real contest is the same thing as people watching WWE and still wanting to believe it's not Eastenders in spandex.
Of course Jake Paul is the favourite, there's no question. I hope somehow Mike rolls back the years for just 1 round as that's all it would take, however folks, the guy is almost 60. It's very unlikely
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Why?
Every Paul fight is exactly the same. Hype, buzz, underwhelming fight, draw or Paul win.
No idea why the boxing thread is still in the sports part of the forum, it should barely be in the entertainment section.
It's annoying because I'd love to see him get knocked the feck out.