The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Tops Fury as the biggest fraud in history. Resume is full of tomato cans outside of maybe Ortiz.
 
Genuinely lost all 12 rounds there - age has caught up to Wilder. His movement was so stiff.
 
Haven’t seen much of Wilder, but is it just me or are his legs alarmingly thin? Strange thing to notice but he looked on fragile foundations, which is completely at odds with his record.
 
I think that's an unfair notion - what in your mind constitutes evidence that Wallin or Parker are gimmes?

Wallin, in particular, has only lost against Fury and caused him all sorts of problems in that loss. Much more than Wilder managed.

Parker has had some poor fights but is a former world champion. This is the heavy weight division, and while Joshua and Wilder are favourites, I only regard them as slight favourites. If any of them have a dominant performance, I'll be impressed
There's supposed to be a set of two tiers essentially: Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua and then the rest.

Both of the latter are supposed to be setting up their "super fight" tonight and Parker is supposed to be a gatekeeper...

As we've seen, Wilder is way off the hype and that billed fight is already put to bed.

Parker isn't going to be elevated via tonight's performance, but Wilder will definitely be downgraded.

Re. Wallin. That fight is about Joshua keeping himself in top tier contention.
 
Tops Fury as the biggest fraud in history. Resume is full of tomato cans outside of maybe Ortiz.

Fury's annoying and an egotist but he's not a fraud. He can genuinely box.

Plus, he mentally destroyed Wilder into the shadow of the fighter we saw today. He burst Wilder's bubble.
 
Is Wilder high on something, doesn't seem bothered at all
I think he's checked out of HW boxing and is just collecting the final payouts before calling it a day. He's also lost his nerve and is far less reckless than he used to be.
 
Think they'll give him 10 and 12, almost sympathy rounds.
Yep, I was thinking those two rounds for Wilder. Seems that the first two refs have those two to Wilder while the last one gave all to Parker.

For once, not a corrupt decision.
 
There's supposed to be a set of two tiers essentially: Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua and then the rest.

Both of the latter are supposed to be setting up their "super fight" tonight and Parker is supposed to be a gatekeeper...

As we've seen, Wilder is way off the hype and that billed fight is already put to bed.

Parker isn't going to be elevated via tonight's performance, but Wilder will definitely be downgraded.

Re. Wallin. That fight is about Joshua keeping himself in top tier contention.
The tiers you've mentioned are just notions of people's brains. Why are they in that tier?? Forget the hype, look at their performances - there's not that much between them
 
Wilder's legs are like matchsticks. Never noticed how skinny they were before.

They're like an optical illusion. I've watched Wilder for years but the more you look at them the skinnier they get :lol:
 
This actually played out very similarly to the Wilder Splika fight. Wilder getting dominated and caught by over hand rights, but this time couldn't catch Parker coming in.

In hindsight this wasn't unexpected. Wilder only ever really gives himself a puncher's chance, but Parker was too slick to get caught tonight.

A little gutted we won't see AJ Wilder now
 
Honestly, Wilder doesn't look like he cares at all. He really seemed like he had a great time being pummelled :lol:

He genuinely looks happy
 
The tiers you've mentioned are just notions of people's brains. Why are they in that tier?? Forget the hype, look at their performances - there's not that much between them
I don't disagree, but the point is they are/were the main body of the division and all the big fights are supposed to involve those four. That number has dwindled to two, but nobody thinks anything of the rest of the division in terms of taking on the top guys.
 
Listening to Eddie Hearn, he's not wrong - Wilder has fought 2 good fighters (Ortiz was old and past his prime), and lost.

Who has he actually won?
 
Listening to Eddie Hearn, he's not wrong - Wilder has fought 2 good fighters (Ortiz was old and past his prime), and lost.

Who has he actually won?

Audley Harrison :lol:
 
Man these Middle East just lack any kind of atmosphere. pretty much why I never watch them. AJ's entrance just looks like he's coming through at the local bingo hall.
 
How many people does this arena in Saudi Arabia hold? The atmosphere is absolutely dead in there.