The RedCafe Boxing Thread

feck sake. The division should have been talked about for years but now its just a joke.
 
SuperiorXI said:
It needs binning and replacing with something better like what the UFC have. Something that makes the big fights happen more frequently.
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Agreed, it’s such a joke. I find it ridiculous that Joshua-Fury or Joshua-Wilder hasn’t happened. I think UFC will take over Boxing soon.
 
Moston Red said:
Agreed, it’s such a joke. I find it ridiculous that Joshua-Fury or Joshua-Wilder hasn’t happened. I think UFC will take over Boxing soon.
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It's already overtaken in terms of entertainment for sure. So many great fights in the last few years. A lot of them living up to their hype too. Also oftentimes the undercard is great fun, boxing undercards these days (especially Queensbury) are shocking.
 
SuperiorXI said:
It needs binning and replacing with something better like what the UFC have. Something that makes the big fights happen more frequently.
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I like the UFC but I struggle to keep up to date with it. It just doesn't enthral me as much as boxing does. I lost interest after Khabib retired and only tuned into the Leon Edwards v Usman fights.
 
After 2 storming recent performances (Inoue/Crawford) it's back down to earth with a bump with this and Beterbiev having to delay his fight with Smith.
Hope we can move on from the era of cheats and ducks at HW soon and get back to where everyone fought all comers and the public happily gave up good money for top action but maybe I'm just being unrealistic.
 
Lay said:
I like the UFC but I struggle to keep up to date with it. It just doesn't enthral me as much as boxing does. I lost interest after Khabib retired and only tuned into the Leon Edwards v Usman fights.
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I think there’s so many exciting fighters at every weight category. For me it’s the best combat sport out there.
 
Saudia Arabia have skewed the market and they don't want the fights till Dec/Jan with Fury/Usyk and Joshua/Wilder being offered £100m site fee even before PPV comes into the equation. Places like Wembley Stadium and even Vegas cannot compete as Saudi are not doing it to make profit and have untold wealth to throw at it.

Guessing the boxers don't want any risky fights in the meantime and put the Saudi cash in peril.
 
Moston Red said:
I think there’s so many exciting fighters at every weight category. For me it’s the best combat sport out there.
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By a country mile and has been for ages. Boxings in the gutter, you get fights like Spence Crawford that actually live up to the billing once every few years. Ufc you get them once every few months
 
Yep.

Boxing at its absolute best with competitive matchups between quality fighters with a bit of backstory is the king of sports.

But it's not good enough to see that once every few years with a piss poor night of entertainment to precede it. Same old story. Fights we don't really want to see, fights getting cancelled, juicing. Christ lads, if you're gonna get on the juice at least hide it/cover it up like other sports do.
 
Robert Helenius stepping in to fight Joshua apparently. Should be an easy victory for AJ.
 
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I don’t mind Helenius at such short notice as long as it’s not still PPV. He was never gonna fight Hrgovic and it’s better than the likes of Chisora.

At least he’ll be fit having fought at the weekend.
 
G-manc said:
I don’t mind Helenius at such short notice as long as it’s not still PPV. He was never gonna fight Hrgovic and it’s better than the likes of Chisora.

At least he’ll be fit having fought at the weekend.
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Yes have the fight off course but don't be charging the same as price or doing it on pay per view.

On the topic did anyone see the David Haye interview where he was saying he was told over a week before by Chisora that White had failed the test and the fight was off?
 
lsd said:
Yes have the fight off course but don't be charging the same as price or doing it on pay per view.

On the topic did anyone see the David Haye interview where he was saying he was told over a week before by Chisora that White had failed the test and the fight was off?
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It’s been pulled from ppv and they’ve offered refunds if people don’t fancy it.

can’t say fairer than that really.
 
lsd said:
On the topic did anyone see the David Haye interview where he was saying he was told over a week before by Chisora that White had failed the test and the fight was off?
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I can’t imagine Eddie Hearn would risk keeping this quiet after the Benn fiasco and the criticism surrounding that.

Also, Chisora is nuts and not reliable IMO.
 
G-manc said:
It’s been pulled from ppv and they’ve offered refunds if people don’t fancy it.

can’t say fairer than that really.
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Yeah that's fair.

Still, shite opponent and it'll leave him woefully under prepared heading into a Wilder fight.
 
be interesting how he handles this fight. Fury for example in his warm up fights, always gets a few rounds in. I actually went to his fight in Belfast before his first fight with Wilder, it was awful. It was clear as day Fury was going the distance, even though he could've stopped Pianeta at any time if he really wanted. Does Joshua do something similiar, get a few rounds in and then stop him in middle to later rounds, or does he try and KO him early doors. I feel he'll get criticized if he doesn't get an early ko, but then if Wilder is his next fight, maybe he wants to stretch the legs somewhat, because for all weaknesses, Wilder has good cardio. KO is always good for the confidence I guess.
 
Port Vale Devil said:
Saudia Arabia have skewed the market and they don't want the fights till Dec/Jan with Fury/Usyk and Joshua/Wilder being offered £100m site fee even before PPV comes into the equation. Places like Wembley Stadium and even Vegas cannot compete as Saudi are not doing it to make profit and have untold wealth to throw at it.

Guessing the boxers don't want any risky fights in the meantime and put the Saudi cash in peril.
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Is this actually going ahead? Thought it was media fluff.
 
Keeping an eye on the undercard. Not the most exciting lineup but at least there are some heavyweights and potential knockouts.

Fisher's opponent was a tough lump there.
 
I find the comparison to UFC interesting. For me if you take away the differences between the sports, from a fan perspective, the UFC is light years ahead of boxing. The biggest fights and cards that are interesting top to bottom, as shown by the attendance of both disciplines on the undercards.

The reason that boxing won't go this way is because the UFC model is far worse for top level fighters. Francis Ngannu is earning £20-30m reportedly for his boxing debut, in his last UFC fight where he was champion, he earned less than £1m.
 
Great finishing shot by Hrgovic.

A rather pathetic performance mind. Not one that advances his case for earning major money in the heavyweight division.
 
So Joshua is fighting a guy who was knocked out by the guy chisora's facing now ? I know it's short notice due to the pull out but That's top matchmaking there from Eddie.
 
The brightness of Chisoras pink gloves is causing me some vision problems, god knows what it’s like for Washington in there
 
Hope Del Boy wins for a change. Hope AJ's walk on will be delayed a bit I'm going to go down the bottom of the garden to fish in this amazing river that's there.
 
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