The RedCafe Boxing Thread

He was trying to be humble though. Came off awfully of course.
He literally threw belts out of the ring then grabbed the microphone and went on an incoherent rant right at the moment Usyk should have been in the limelight. It was a dick move.
 
Because he’s set for life financially and we see the damage that boxing does to many fighters who took too many blows. I always find boxing a sad sight outside the highest level for the biggest prizes. It is not worth the risks.
Yeah but they're his risks to take. It's not just about money. That's one reason to keep fighting, but maybe some fighters believe that the risk is also worth it because it is what they're passionate about. I just don't get why it's always the mentality of fans to retire everyone. As soon as someone loses there is apparently no way back. He's lost a decision, it was fine.
 
He was being humble in defeat, saying that he isn't as skilled as some of the best. His very next line was that about him starting boxing late, unlike most other pros, and him dealing drugs / potentially going to jail. It was a bit incoherent but it was obvious what he was trying to say.

It was a man showing some real emotions after a a huge fight. I don't see why it should cause a big uproar! Yeah there was a bit of swearing, but we're all adults...
 
I still can't get out of my head how bloody fast is Usyk. Even in 12th round he is dancing around. Amazing.
Shame that he "wasted" most of jis career in lower division.
 
He literally threw belts out of the ring then grabbed the microphone and went on an incoherent rant right at the moment Usyk should have been in the limelight. It was a dick move.
Yep. He ruined what was supposed to be Usyk’s moment. It was exasperation at being outclassed yet again. Went about it like an utter gimp though.
 
Why would he throw the belts out of the ring, what was that all about.

hard to call usyk fury winner if they fight.
 
I still can't get out of my head how bloody fast is Usyk. Even in 12th round he is dancing around. Amazing.
Shame that he "wasted" most of jis career in lower division.
Usyk definitely didn’t waste his years as a cruiserweight. What he did in that division, fighting on the road in everyone else’s home countries, was incredible. That was a hall of fame career alone. He was an amateur for a very long time, but, again, was seen as an all-time great amateur boxer.
 
So who do folk got in ggg vs canelo?

Surely ggg is too old by this point.

Canelo, I felt GGG got screwed with the judging in the first fight and maybe even the 2nd but time waits for no one.

Speaking of shitty judging 115-113 AJ, the feck was that judge watching?
 
It was a man showing some real emotions after a a huge fight. I don't see why it should cause a big uproar! Yeah there was a bit of swearing, but we're all adults...

Nobody cares about the swearing. It wasn't his moment. He lost and should have gracefully walked away instead he threw the belts out of the ring, then threw a strop outside the ring, then came back in, grabbed the mic and made it all about him. Nobody cares or wants to hear what the losing fighter has to say. It was Usyk's moment. He behaved like a massive twat.
 
Nobody cares about the swearing. It wasn't his moment. He lost and should have gracefully walked away instead he threw the belts out of the ring, then threw a strop outside the ring, then came back in, grabbed the mic and made it all about him. Nobody cares or wants to hear what the losing fighter has to say. It was Usyk's moment. He behaved like a massive twat.
Agreed
 
I think Fury is a completely different proposition. With his style under Sugar Hill I don't see him letting Usyk have so much time to work with. He's a lot more physical, a lot more willing to take risks. Joshua kept hesitating, he could very rarely get Usyks back touching the ropes.
 
You’re saying he was being humble (throwing belts about? Using his late start as an excuse? Whatever the feck that bit where he was going on about Ukraine always being in some form of conflict?) and that it’s obvious. It’s obvious if you want it to be. Fact is he was just being quite cringeworthy and more than a bit of a prick.
 
Nah if he wasn’t concussed then it was pretty awful. That’s not how you behave as a fighter.

Agree, I think it was a combination of maybe concussion, dehydration (he sweat alot more than usual) and his corner telling him he was winning. He'll apologize tomorrow or the day after and it should all be good.
 
Better boxer won but it was a close fight. This outclassed stuff is nonsense. As Eddie was saying by the 9th there was nothing between them and it was the final 3 that made the difference.
AJ definitely improved himself and there will be other fights out there for him.

The biased commentary by Sky Sports was weird to me. They were talking like it was a humiliation, it was far closer than they were saying.
 
Canelo, I felt GGG got screwed with the judging in the first fight and maybe even the 2nd but time waits for no one.

Speaking of shitty judging 115-113 AJ, the feck was that judge watching?
Yeah the first one was definitely a robbery, the second one was kinda as well but at least canelo threw some hard shots in that one.

Professional boxing judging is a joke, well it's a joke in the amateurs as well but no one cares about that.
 
Usyk definitely didn’t waste his years as a cruiserweight. What he did in that division, fighting on the road in everyone else’s home countries, was incredible. That was a hall of fame career alone. He was an amateur for a very long time, but, again, was seen as an all-time great amateur boxer.
That is why i said "wasted". Of course he did great stuff there but it is shame that he didn't came earlier in top division. Guy is simply amazing.
Last boxer who impressed me that much was Lewis.
 
Nobody cares about the swearing. It wasn't his moment. He lost and should have gracefully walked away instead he threw the belts out of the ring, then threw a strop outside the ring, then came back in, grabbed the mic and made it all about him. Nobody cares or wants to hear what the losing fighter has to say. It was Usyk's moment. He behaved like a massive twat.

Meh, Usyk had his moment later, and had it in London too. Joshua did apologise for the belt thing during his ramble (I think) and basically just heaped praise on Usyk... No harm done.
 
Better boxer won but it was a close fight. This outclassed stuff is nonsense. As Eddie was saying by the 9th there was nothing between them and it was the final 3 that made the difference.
AJ definitely improved himself and there will be other fights out there for him.

The biased commentary by Sky Sports was weird to me. They were talking like it was a humiliation, it was far closer than they were saying.
I can't agree with that. Joshua had maybe two or three good rounds and was getting hit four or five times more per round. It really wasn't close at all.
 
The biased commentary by Sky Sports was weird to me. They were talking like it was a humiliation, it was far closer than they were saying.

Glad someone else thought this and not just me... I thought it was really odd. Usyk would throw 3 punches at Joshua's glove and they'd wax lyrical about an amazing combination.
 
Speaking of shitty judging 115-113 AJ, the feck was that judge watching?
I was utterly baffled by that. This is why boxing is losing fans. Because of incompetent plebs like that. Would’ve been an absolute travesty had AJ even got a draw out of that. He was completely outclassed. It was like they were both fighting a different sport.
 
I was utterly baffled by that. This is why boxing is losing fans. Because of incompetent plebs like that. Would’ve been an absolute travesty had AJ even got a draw out of that. He was completely outclassed. It was like they were both fighting a different sport.
Unfortunately it's been always like that, fixed matches and biased or outright incompetent judging has been a part of boxing as long as boxing has existed.
 
On a more serious note, while Joshua had a better game plan today, I don’t think Usyk was as good as usual.

On today’s form, you’d definitely take Fury over him
 
You’re saying he was being humble (throwing belts about? Using his late start as an excuse? Whatever the feck that bit where he was going on about Ukraine always being in some form of conflict?) and that it’s obvious. It’s obvious if you want it to be. Fact is he was just being quite cringeworthy and more than a bit of a prick.

I think he was trying to be humble. The belt bit I missed, I only saw when he came back into the ring. Of course it came off cringeworthy.
 
On a more serious note, while Joshua had a better game plan today, I don’t think Usyk was as good as usual.

On today’s form, you’d definitely take Fury over him

I agree, there were at least 3 or 4 times where he looked a bit "in trouble"... Joshua just never followed up though.
 
Think some of you are being a little harsh on AJ's performance. I thought he did a reasonable job until say round 9 or 10, hanging with one of the best pure boxers on the planet in gruelling conditions. He was tidy enough with his bodywork, he just unraveled a bit towards the end and started to take shots cleanly and he just found Usyk's head very hard to catch clean, which I think most do.

Ultimately he's just not as good as Usyk and Fury, but he's done very well for himself. I preferred him earlier in his career when he committed more often but tonight wasn't a bad performance.
 
Think some of you are being a little harsh on AJ's performance. I thought he did a reasonable job until say round 9 or 10, hanging with one of the best pure boxers on the planet in gruelling conditions. He was tidy enough with his bodywork, he just unraveled a bit towards the end and started to take shots cleanly and he just found Usyk's head very hard to catch clean, which I think most do.

Ultimately he's just not as good as Usyk and Fury, but he's done very well for himself. I preferred him earlier in his career when he committed more often but tonight wasn't a bad performance.
He did about as good as he could have done but he has never had anywhere near the talent of the real top fighters out there and he clearly believes his own hype. It was a good fight and he was much better prepared but he was well beaten in the end.
 
Meh, Usyk had his moment later, and had it in London too. Joshua did apologise for the belt thing during his ramble (I think) and basically just heaped praise on Usyk... No harm done.

I’m sure Joshua will apologise, as he should, in the media ASAP.

I’m sure they’ll mention concussion.