The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Oggmonster said:
Wouldn't surprise me if Hearn is there....might have to get Chisora and Whyte back as hype men for it!



It could be and I accept this point. To Joshua and Hearn's credit though despite the inactivity etc Wlad is the current best available option (Fury won't be fighting for ages, if ever) so they have got the best fight possible. Joshua is constantly slated and rightfully so for taking bum fights and poor opponents but this one is a good challenge and fight. Don't get me wrong with Hearn everything is calculated and he will see a weakness in Wlad with the inactivity and ageing but this fight really does give potential to take Joshua on to a new level and be the proper face of heavyweight boxing. The guy is a potential superstar and the division is slowly getting better.

For all the shite served up in boxing this is a genuine interesting fight. I'm not even a massive Joshua fan really but it's good to get new fans into boxing and he can help do it. I think AJ wins and it's stopped after about 7 or so rounds.

As for the card the other night, it was as expected except Chisora vs. Whyte which was a great fight. I thought Chisora won it but it was close.
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I agree and don't get me wrong I'm not saying it will be an easy night just that post-fury there's a lot more questions about klitschko now. What i saw in the fury fight was a guy who was unable to step it up despite clearly losing the fight, after so many years of out jabbing no-hopers he had no idea how to deal with a genuine threat. maybe the break will clear his head and being sans belts he might have some fire back but at this point I fancy joshua to knock him out. i'm excited for it, will be getting tickets i reckon

i had chisora winning too which surprised me as i've never a been a big fan of del boy, showed a lot of heart and nous against a much younger and fitter guy. there's gotta be a chance a rematch will happen and possibly on the undercard as i reckon its a relatively cheap fight to make and hearn needs some controversy to fatten out his PPV
 
Red_Aaron said:
I agree and don't get me wrong I'm not saying it will be an easy night just that post-fury there's a lot more questions about klitschko now. What i saw in the fury fight was a guy who was unable to step it up despite clearly losing the fight, after so many years of out jabbing no-hopers he had no idea how to deal with a genuine threat. maybe the break will clear his head and being sans belts he might have some fire back but at this point I fancy joshua to knock him out. i'm excited for it, will be getting tickets i reckon

i had chisora winning too which surprised me as i've never a been a big fan of del boy, showed a lot of heart and nous against a much younger and fitter guy. there's gotta be a chance a rematch will happen and possibly on the undercard as i reckon its a relatively cheap fight to make and hearn needs some controversy to fatten out his PPV
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Yeah the Fury fight has taken the wind out the sails a bit on Wlad. He's not got the aura of invincibility anymore. I think they'll sell it on whether or not Joshua can knock him out. Fury beat him convincingly but was never really close to a KO. It will be interesting though.

I think both of them deserve to fight at Wembley after that, without them the card was very very average. Be a decent pay day as well for them both.

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Good article there on Shannon Briggs, worth reading.
 
Gotta love those 2 going back and forward at each other :lol:

Their "gloves are off" will be epic when they start calling each other Amir Kardashian and Kelly Brook :lol:
 
If Brook and Khan don't get it on after started the teasing again, feck it. It's the dream British fight right now, but they've danced around it for too long and well Floyd-Manny has killed the aura of being able to dance around for too long, people won't forget that in a hurry.

Just seen on the early news Bernard Hopkins lost his final fight, seemed a bit odd, they didn't show footage, but he got knocked out of the ring and didn't get back in before his (extra) allotted time allowed, seems a bit odd as he was up and walking it seemed, hope he doesn't use it as a reason to fight again, top top fighter, insane defence and IQ which allowed to fight for so long without seemingly getting any brain damage, kudos....though at the cost of boredom. Though his rib shot on De La Hoya is one of the sweetest hits for me.
 
Zen said:
If Brook and Khan don't get it on after started the teasing again, feck it. It's the dream British fight right now, but they've danced around it for too long and well Floyd-Manny has killed the aura of being able to dance around for too long, people won't forget that in a hurry.

Just seen on the early news Bernard Hopkins lost his final fight, seemed a bit odd, they didn't show footage, but he got knocked out of the ring and didn't get back in before his (extra) allotted time allowed, seems a bit odd as he was up and walking it seemed, hope he doesn't use it as a reason to fight again, top top fighter, insane defence and IQ which allowed to fight for so long without seemingly getting any brain damage, kudos....though at the cost of boredom. Though his rib shot on De La Hoya is one of the sweetest hits for me.
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There's the footage. Agree should hang it up to be honest, he seems to be one who doesn't want to let go though. I reckon he'll fight again
 
Never really rated Hopkins as highly as others do. His best win was against a featherweight. Also, an absolute bore to watch.
 
Anyone trying to get tickets?

The queue on the wembley site is ridiculous, seems like people who were around 2000 still didn't manage to get any. And studhub doesnt even work..
 
starman said:
Anyone trying to get tickets?

The queue on the wembley site is ridiculous, seems like people who were around 2000 still didn't manage to get any. And studhub doesnt even work..
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Yeah it's a joke.

They'll be on StubHub in a few hours with a huge mark up or booking fee for Hearn to get his money back I suspect!
 
Oggmonster said:
Yeah it's a joke.

They'll be on StubHub in a few hours with a huge mark up or booking fee for Hearn to get his money back I suspect!
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Yeah, theres going to be another batch released next month. If it was on the wembley site there might be a chance, but with it being on studhub its pretty pointless as they are probably all inhouse purchases
 
starman said:
Yeah, theres going to be another batch released next month. If it was on the wembley site there might be a chance, but with it being on studhub its pretty pointless as they are probably all inhouse purchases
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The Stub Hub with HEarn thing is a massive conflict of interests really but suppose nothing can do. It's his event at the end of the day. Man of the people Eddie ripping off fans again will be the result.

I don't get why he didn't just release the remaining lot now to be honest. Odd to do it in batches.
 
Oggmonster said:
The Stub Hub with HEarn thing is a massive conflict of interests really but suppose nothing can do. It's his event at the end of the day. Man of the people Eddie ripping off fans again will be the result.

I don't get why he didn't just release the remaining lot now to be honest. Odd to do it in batches.
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Not pairing up with a reseller website would be a good start. There are already 500+ tickets listed for resale on studhub, with the £40 tickets marked up at from £200.

It should have been although wembley and reselling could only been done through them. Its only one event, so would be too hard too police ensuring tickets go to be people who actually want to go. But as you said its a conflict of interest, Hearns is probably going to make a decent amount with the reselling.
 
starman said:
Not pairing up with a reseller website would be a good start. There are already 500+ tickets listed for resale on studhub, with the £40 tickets marked up at from £200.

It should have been although wembley and reselling could only been done through them. Its only one event, so would be too hard too police ensuring tickets go to be people who actually want to go. But as you said its a conflict of interest, Hearns is probably going to make a decent amount with the reselling.
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Oh yeah that is the idea, but I mean nothing we can do. It's his event and his website he does what he wants with it, all whilst pretending to be the peoples promoter or something. He's a rip off merchant.

The Wembley one was alright cos it had a system. I.e. in a queue and it said you had an hour. The Stub Hub thing was a joke.

a) Constant getting through to be told "Whoops try again"
b) Website wouldn't even load
c) The worst one for me was it made you "pick seats" and if them exact seats were sold out then tough shit. If I pick Row 40 and there's a seat in the same block in Row 20 or even 50 just offer me that seat! Chances are most people won't be arsed. I didn't have to sit in that exact seat.

Overall it was a shambles and reading responses on Twitter there's plenty of pissed off people. It's a 90,000 seater stadium and they didn't anticipate selling big numbers it seems. Joke
 
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Getting a bit tiring to be honest. Great victory over Klit but since then he's been nothing short of a disgrace. Fair enough he's been struggling with mental health problems but he should try and stay out of the limelight until he's ready to step back into the ring.

At the moment he just comes across as bitter and jealous over the exposure and success Joshua is getting as he knows it should be him getting those plaudits and paydays.

I personally think he's finished. The only thing that could make him come back is money, and even then I don't think he could stand up to Joshua, or even manage to win a Klit rematch.
 
How much dodging is there in boxing currently ? Is it quite blatant or ...?
 
Am I the only one thinking Wlad can win? He's the same size as AJ, if not actually taller and can tab him away all night. Sure Joshua needs testing, and Whyte did do, but as we saw in that fight and all others, going to war with him or hiding in the corner whilst getting hit is not the way to go. Klitchko could jab him away all night and land odd big shots when the timings right.

Like all sports age is a big factor but if Waldimir is sensible he will keep AJ at distance and be sensible. Haye beats Bellew all day, think De Gale wins too. Good times. Come on Fury come back and take all YOUR belts back.
 
Difficult to know how Wlad will box after losing to a non that good boxer, but yes, I think that he is actually the favorite. Joshua looks incredible but he has been fighting punching bags so far. It might be quite different against a top boxer (although past it top boxer), who will likely know how to box against Joshua.
 
18 months out of the ring when you're that old. Making your return against someone who's high on confidence and been running over everyone (albeit against very poor opposition). Can only see it going one way really.
 
Mayweather training Souljah Boy for a boxing match with Chris Brown? The feck have I just read.

You know I'd watch the shit out of that car crash if it happened though :lol:
 
What's peoples thoughts on this Eubank Jnr ITV PPV nonsense? how the hell has he sold it to them?
 
JP77 said:
Mayweather training Souljah Boy for a boxing match with Chris Brown? The feck have I just read.

You know I'd watch the shit out of that car crash if it happened though :lol:
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50 Cent is trying to get Mike Tyson to train Chris Brown and Mayweather to promote it. Where's all this come from?
 
Revan said:
Difficult to know how Wlad will box after losing to a non that good boxer, but yes, I think that he is actually the favorite. Joshua looks incredible but he has been fighting punching bags so far. It might be quite different against a top boxer (although past it top boxer), who will likely know how to box against Joshua.
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What makes you say that about Fury? He completely outboxed Wlad who clearly is/was an elite boxer.
 
JP77 said:
Mayweather training Souljah Boy for a boxing match with Chris Brown? The feck have I just read.

You know I'd watch the shit out of that car crash if it happened though :lol:
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:lol: nevertheless it should be good entertainment. Fancy Chris Brown to win based off of nothing apart from he's quite a naturally talented sportsman.
 
Utdstar01 said:
:lol: nevertheless it should be good entertainment. Fancy Chris Brown to win based off of nothing apart from he's quite a naturally talented sportsman.
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He's 1-0 after his fight with Rihanna as well I think.

I'd imagine Khan might call out the winner of this 1.
 
What does everyone reckon to DeGale this weekend? I think if he focuses he should win he has a habit of fading away late on though. Should be a good fight and on Sky sports as well which helps!
 
Oggmonster said:
What does everyone reckon to DeGale this weekend? I think if he focuses he should win he has a habit of fading away late on though. Should be a good fight and on Sky sports as well which helps!
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Apparently he's hired a strength and conditioning coach for the first time so he doesn't fatigue during the fight. That should make a huge difference, as he should tire less in the championship rounds and be able to maintain his punch volume.

Either way, I think De Gale will win. He's a classy talented fighter and is improving, apart from the half arsed effort against Medina, he has looked good. Jack is a game fighter, and will give De Gale problems, but for me he's just not talented enough to win on points so he will have to hope for the KO which I can't see.

De Gale to win on pts for me, then to take on Callum Smith which will be a closer fight IMO.
 
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