Yeah.. just thinking through my other one..
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Yeah.. just thinking through my other one..
Yeah, I agree with why we started from the bottom but I don't recall having this issue before. I think that's because the only snake drafts we did with a pool either had one reinforcement round, or one had three reinforcements and then one in the next rounds. It never came up before IIRC, but I was thinking about it just now and thinking: "Uh, oh, I'm fecked here"
Not that it will make much difference to me. The way I'm going about it I won't be going for top-tier but positions. It only just dawned on me the best strategy here was not quite perfecting midfield/defence and wait for the reinforcements to come to pappa. So many great midfielders and defenders
You are not one for drama, are you? One of the beauties of being at the turnaround point is the wham bam effect of two joint picks. More than one dream has been shattered like that.
Seems like Raees liked my Morena stories... Such a travesty he didn't get to play
BTW @Raees, do you mind sending me your submission for the game yesterday? Would love to see how you went about it.
Edgar Davids
A couple of things, first of all it think you're thinking of football at this case is a bit shallow and unwise. I really trust 3 midfielders like Keano Breitner or Seedorf to be wise enough and know their ways around football to work it out, it's not like they'll go gung-ho to attack than gung-ho to defense, they have their brains..
As for this trio, I guess Keano will be the one instructed to be a bit more aware to the defensive duty, but that doesn't make him too much less influential on attack, it limits him, yes, but he has less on him defensively than he had with Scholes in the two men midfield and he managed to contribute a lot to the attack back than, with two midfielders to help him more than Scholes ever did I think he'll be fine
POst it here. Interesting for everyone, I suppose!
PM. Yeah, Davids was very tempting but I have plenty of options in midfield.
Good to see you are giving Fernando an outing, although his gain is our loss. Viva must be jizzing all over his screen.
Well, maybe he wants to keep something up his sleeve for the games? That's the only upside when not having played. You get no feedback but at least others remain as ignorant as you
I know they do. I'm not saying they will feck it up, I'm saying it will constrain them. You WANT them to go gung-ho. That's the point, play someone that allows them to do so.
In the meantime, I can imagine who MJJ/Theon are after. They have backups, of course, but there's one man they want.
And I need attacking fullbacks.
Mmmm... should I leave it until after the game?
Is @BorisDeLeFora around? If not, I'll take my time. It's a big decision I need to make here.
See PM anto.. did you get it?
They don't need to go completely gung-ho to thrive, the way I see it having three CMs who can equally defend and attack allows them to reach balance between defending and attacking, the whole midfield works together in order to beat the opposition. Keane here will be the more responsible one while Seedorf and Breitner go gung-ho, but Keane has the more discipline role of being a little more defensive minded, but that's his nature of play too, he's a better defensive CM than an offensive CM.
I still think you don't need a water carrier-ish midfielder because that limits you offensively and when you don't have the threat of Platini Zidane etc Keano is more than enough defensively. it won't limit his attacking influence either because unless my opponent has Baggio or someone like that in that class you don't need someone to watch his back constantly.
What am I Jizzin on this time? Missed your previous postsIn the meantime, I can imagine who MJJ/Theon are after. They have backups, of course, but there's one man they want.
And I need attacking fullbacks.
Mmmm... should I leave it until after the game?
Depends on what box-to-box you get, imo. There are few that are capable of playing in that role, but then there are the likes of [he is still in the draft, sorry] and Stevie Me, who will try be everywhere but in reality they are a liability without a decent DM behind them
I wouldn't say neither of my midfielders are a liability without a DM behind them
Mind, Viva is going to sort out his shit striker and we are still all fecked. Strange he went Keane and not for a Davids-Seedorf combo of yore. Can't wait to see Keane back to being a holding midfielder once Breitner returns
Passarella is a baffling pick, and I have to thank TRV for picking Henry over Mufasa
Not really actually mate, I was torn between four players/positions and whilst there were other options which improved us more immediately - long term Passarella was the best option. With Nesta banished to Argentina I think Passarella was the best fit so I couldn't risk missing the chance to add him, Scirea's fantastic as well of course but he doesn't fit the team at all.
In the meantime, I can imagine who MJJ/Theon are after. They have backups, of course, but there's one man they want.
And I need attacking fullbacks.
Mmmm... should I leave it until after the game?
AyeWasn't talking about yours in particular, yes.
In the meantime, I can imagine who MJJ/Theon are after. They have backups, of course, but there's one man they want.
And I need attacking fullbacks.
Mmmm... should I leave it until after the game?
I thought that they would get him as their first pick tbf
It doesn't, it really really doesn't. Real managed to play an uber-offensive lineup because they had one chap who did all the work. Florentino thought like you, and Real's loss was Chelsea's gain. I would agree you don't need a Makelele, less so when you need someone to get the outball from deep to begin with. Deschamps though? He is no water-carrier, proper footballer, and would fulfill the role you are describing for Keane better than him, just doesn't have the kudos.
BTW, Baggio is still around. In fact, available for anyone to pick.
That I agree with. It's not about liabilities but maximising their effectiveness.
But you have Sammer? I've no idea what the hell you want another libero for.
If Perez had replace Makelele with Keane or a Vieira they still would have been fine. Problem was putting Beckham into the CM instead. Regardless Viva is fine, Keane is never a bad pick.
Seedorf------Keane
-------Veron------
is fine.
Seedorf-----Brietner
-------Keane-------
is gonna be a vote magnet.
Passarella was a libero in the sense that he would push up at times with the ball, but in terms of defending he's just a dominant, physical centre back. More so than Sammer and certainly more than Scirea which is why I don't think Scirea fits.
I don't see anything wrong at all with a Passarella/McGrath partnership. And the fact Sammer is there in midfield I see as a positive, when Passarella pushes up there isn't anyone better to dovetail with.
I know that. While Neeskens-Breitner would have been insane, Keane has sorted him going forward as well. I'm just making a point about what midfield would work best in practice, not in a popularity contest, and I'm making it on here because that's the point: discussing/exchanging views.
You won't see me going on VivaJ's next gamethread banging on about this.
2-0
Our defense is still bobbins. Blind looks like an average player to me, having him as the most defensive midfielder is going to be an issue.
I've said it a zillion times now: if you play Passarella you need a LB who is also a CB and can tuck in to cover him. Rodriguez isn't that. Nor was Bobby Carlos the last time I told you this. It's not about you (or Viva, who I see got a bit grated about the Keane thing), it's about portraying the player and how he was most effective as accurately as possible.
There's always loose ends here and there and I make allowances for that (needs must), but I can't stomach seeing players deliberately picked in the wrong setup. It's not about the managers, I just think it blurs any accurate understanding of the player at hand and is probably based on such a blurred understanding too.
For all I bickered with Annah the other day, I did appreciate how he didn't want to ask Bossis to do something that wasn't his strongest suit.
That can be sorted later, at least I'm back to REALLY enjoying watching us. Sure, we won't win the league with this form but I reckon we make top 4, and then roll on next season...
Patience mate.
Knew itDDG
Mehh I disagree with you Anto. I've seen enough of Passarella to make that judgement, as I've told you before I was actually surprised at how un-sweeperish he was - particularly compared to someone like Scirea. He was a fantastic defender more than anything else, his ability on the ball was secondary there.
Even as libero's go it was secondary when it came to Passarella, compared to Beckenbauer, Baresi and Scirea he wasn't as good on the ball. In the '78 World Cup for instance he wouldn't normally even run with the ball the way others would, it would typically be playing a pass into midfield then charging out for the return pass.
I do actually agree with you that he needs cover though, all of those CB's who push out do to some extent but I don't think that needs to come from LB. In terms of cover that's one reason I love Sammer there, as I said before there aren't many better to dovetail with Passarella when he pushes up.
I think he's superb, passing constantly and being really wise about it. I don't think he's our problem defensively.
I agree here, don't think he is a problem defending, I was actually considering taking Passarella as my first pick if I hadn't lost Breitner, Passarella with the ball, Vierchwood as the stopper, game won
It's actually quite dull to try keep you guys hanging when there's actually a game on to distract us
This actually feels more like that time Theon picked first and I told him Ronaldo would make all the way back to him. He said I was insane, probably thought I was setting him up for a fall when I picked him... But he DID wind up getting Ronaldo Fenómeno as 16th pick I probably should have picked him but I knew I was gone next game anyway and Ronaldo was going to look awesome in his team.
I've actually made that sort of decision many times, instead of "stop X getting Y", thinking "Y belongs with X". Then I get all upset if they pass on them
This actually feels more like that time Theon picked first and I told him Ronaldo would make all the way back to him. He said I was insane, probably thought I was setting him up for a fall when I picked him... But he DID wind up getting Ronaldo Fenómeno as 16th pick
I probably should have picked him but I knew I was gone next game anyway and Ronaldo was going to look awesome in his team.I've actually made that sort of decision many times, instead of "stop X getting Y", thinking "Y belongs with X". Then I get all upset if they pass on them
I see your point and think you aren't wrong, but I just don't think Keane is "wrong" for this role. It might not be as perfect for him as the box to his role but with these two players next to him(Seedorf and Breitner) I think it will work. Again, Keane didn't really play this specific role but it doesn't mean he can't, bloody hell he is one of the best footballers of all times. Maybe Deschamps would have been more suiting for that role as the "right" one for it, but I think Keane will be better simply because he's better. Even if I would've picked Didier before Veron and had Breitner go to his drug test, I'd probably upgraded Deschamps for Keano