The Reality Draft: Main Thread (Finals)

Was hoping you would pick him, jumped out from looking at your needs, but you never know...

I actually can't believe what an embarrassment of riches I'll have before me.

Yeah I was deciding if I should pick someone I needed...or double up on another position since there's some cracking options still.
 
Yeah I was deciding if I should pick someone I needed...or double up on another position since there's some cracking options still.

You tell me... it's doing my head in. I have so many midfielders... and the two leftbacks I was contemplating are brilliant. Decisions, decisions.
 
All this talk about embarrassment of riches is making me think I've made the wrong decision, especially since I had a list of like 6 players for this round and most of them are gone.

Antohan: mindgames extraordinaire
 
You tell me... it's doing my head in. I have so many midfielders... and the two leftbacks I was contemplating are brilliant. Decisions, decisions.

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Can't understand Marquinhos pick unless you have top options for every other position apart from CB. It's not a question of unproved, but Marquinhos isn't even a starter in PSG, never was tbf. I can think of one CB we all know who is better than him imo too.
 
I was convinced that one young player would be gone by now. Surprising that he hasn't yet.
 
This is very very strange. I think I rate young players very differently than you guys.

Thought it was common knowledge all those series were Japanese, what with the huge eyes and tendency to communicate in sounds: "Oh", "Ah", "Urgh". About 50% of what happened was facial expressions along with sounds or slow motion stuff. I downloaded Marco (the D'Amicis character, while Heidi is from Juana Spyri) and Jackie and Nuca (two bears and a little indian boy) for my nieces a while back, they only managed to sit tight for about three minutes, the pace (or lack of) is unbearable, no idea what we had along with our food back then.
I'm pretty sure they added a lot of lines for all these animated series when they dubbed it in German. They also altered some of the stories completely, definitely made it more fun than the original or more suited to us attention seeking Europeans. There wasn't that much communication through sounds like 'Oh', 'Ah' or 'Urgh' :lol:.
 
I don't think there's any chance that people aren't aware of who is out there, so hints...schmints...as far the Yerman goes.

Generally I reckon people are tied up by what they have to field. You can't necessarily go for the best player available if you already have an old world beater filling the kid's best role.

Agree on Marquinhos. Strikes me as a gamble. But hey, gambles pay off from time to time.

I was half pondering going for Varane myself (not realizing I'd be picking second to last, be it said). But all things said and done I think CB is potentially the most dangerous position for a youngster in this draft. Your opponent can easily play all sorts of nasty cards there.
 
I don't think there's any chance that people aren't aware of who is out there, so hints...schmints...as far the Yerman goes.

Generally I reckon people are tied up by what they have to field. You can't necessarily go for the best player available if you already have an old world beater filling the kid's best role.

Agree on Marquinhos. Strikes me as a gamble. But hey, gambles pay off from time to time.

I was half pondering going for Varane myself (not realizing I'd be picking second to last, be it said). But all things said and done I think CB is potentially the most dangerous position for a youngster in this draft. Your opponent can easily play all sorts of nasty cards there.

Well, Varane "in his peak" proved himself against Messi who is better than any attacking player in this draft. We will need to agree that peak for the youngsters should be relatively shorter, as we all have one because of the rules and not because of our own desire.
Marquinhos is a gamble, I agree, as there is still one more proven unpicked CB, if you really need one. Marquinhos's price is more about potential than actual ability, I think.
 
I don't think there's any chance that people aren't aware of who is out there, so hints...schmints...as far the Yerman goes.

Generally I reckon people are tied up by what they have to field. You can't necessarily go for the best player available if you already have an old world beater filling the kid's best role.

Agree on Marquinhos. Strikes me as a gamble. But hey, gambles pay off from time to time.

I was half pondering going for Varane myself (not realizing I'd be picking second to last, be it said). But all things said and done I think CB is potentially the most dangerous position for a youngster in this draft. Your opponent can easily play all sorts of nasty cards there.

Yeah. I was certain on picking Varane but also having a legacy pick as a CB swung it.

In any case, I am happy with Kroos. No other young player in the draft will be as proven as him. I was shocked to see that he actually qualified!
 
Well, Varane "in his peak" proved himself against Messi who is better than any attacking player in this draft. We will need to agree that peak for the youngsters should be relatively shorter, as we all have one because of the rules and not because of our own desire.
Marquinhos is a gamble, I agree, as there is still one more proven unpicked CB, if you really need one. Marquinhos's price is more about potential than actual ability, I think.

The problem with Varane is that the lad has played for about five minutes at the highest level compared to the warhorses he'll be up against. But he has done so in an extremely impressive manner. You can argue his case based on his obvious talent alone - and that might be enough. Unlike pretty much any other defender his age it's obvious that he'll make it and become a top class player - only some form of force majeure can stop him, really.
 
This is very very strange. I think I rate young players very differently than you guys.

I'm pretty sure they added a lot of lines for all these animated series when they dubbed it in German. They also altered some of the stories completely, definitely made it more fun than the original or more suited to us attention seeking Europeans. There wasn't that much communication through sounds like 'Oh', 'Ah' or 'Urgh' :lol:.
No one is gonna pick the golden German boy. His stock is at all time low ATM.
 
No one is gonna pick the golden German boy. His stock is at all time low ATM.
I wasn't talking about him and am not surprised about him not being picked so far. I actually told Annah earlier, there's a good chance he might slip through to him. Still strange, it seems he's judged on his bad moments and his highlights are ignored while it's the exact opposite for some of the other guys. At least he's still a regular starter while Varane warms the bench at Real.
 
Ah the old Varane debate is reignited =P.
Well after MJJ claimed last draft that he is already proved himself better than a certain Dutch CB legend(I won't name him, yet)... Madness ;)
As for Marquinhos, he definitely has top draw potential, but he's yet to become a regular player for any team, and he never faced top draw attackers in his previous teams on a regular basis and that's the problem and the difference between him and Varane
 
Yeah. I was certain on picking Varane but also having a legacy pick as a CB swung it.

In any case, I am happy with Kroos. No other young player in the draft will be as proven as him. I was shocked to see that he actually qualified!
Yeah Kroos was on my shortlist right after Alaba. Delighted to get David because the difference between him and other youngsters is the leadership and maturity. A bloody world class player at such young age.
 
Van Gaal said:
“You have to know, I am not always convinced of the experience of players,” he said. “It’s very important we have experienced players but not always in age and not only football experience but also as a human being. Because my philosophy is not just the football player but [the individual] in total. [In that respect], there are not so many experienced players.”

He cited Michael Carrick and Seedorf, a 16-year-old when Van Gaal gave him his Ajax debut but “sometimes more experienced than a player who was 30 years.” He concluded: “It always depends on the personality.”
 
I wasn't talking about him and am not surprised about him not being picked so far. I actually told Annah earlier, there's a good chance he might slip through to him. Still strange, it seems he's judged on his bad moments and his highlights are ignored while it's the exact opposite for some of the other guys. At least he's still a regular starter while Varane warms the bench at Real.
It's about voting.. he simply won't be rated right now
Think I know who you are talking about as well
 
Well, that's fair enough from Aloysius - and I agree with the sentiment, by all means. But generally this is an argument against picking an "experienced" and inferior player over a talented youngster who is mature beyond his years on the pitch. In our context, however, it's more a question of whether a kid who has barely turned twenty would struggle against a Romario in his prime, supported by Boniek and God knows who else. It's a different sort of debate, really.
 
Well after MJJ claimed last draft that he is already proved himself better than a certain Dutch CB legend(I won't name him, yet)... Madness ;)
As for Marquinhos, he definitely has top draw potential, but he's yet to become a regular player for any team, and he never faced top draw attackers in his previous teams on a regular basis and that's the problem and the difference between him and Varane

:lol: That dutch legend still hasnt been picked yet and varane is pure class :drool:
 
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà 10. Carvajal
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain 10. Marquinhos
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos

@BorisDeLeFora
 
Hmm, the question is, is it possible to have 3 box-to-box central midfielders in one team? Or is it overkill.

Decisions decisions.
 
Hmm, the question is, is it possible to have 3 box-to-box central midfielders in one team? Or is it overkill.

Decisions decisions.
I'd go with the Spanish option instead.

On the other hand, that Frenchman is highly (over)rated on the Caf.
 
Get the feeling I'm going to get the German I don't like but everyone else seems to love. @Boris.. anything more than 2 is definitely overkill, do you have a deep lying playmaker?