The Reality Draft: Main Thread (Finals)
- Thread starter Edgar Allan Pillow
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Harms>>No, that's not what it is about, it's all about the players. Yeah, I get way too engrossed with it but I can't stand seeing personal favourites being chucked around teamsheets with zero regard to what they were all about.
e.g.
WHAT.THE.feck?
How does that get the best out of Breitnigge?
If you want the best out of Breitnigge you play Breitner as a box-to-box midfielder on the right, with Rummenigge as an inside/wide forward (sort of tucked in right forward, NOT a winger) AND you play a friggin' striker. Just look up teams where he was successful and you will clearly see what sort of striker to get, else Balu described them to a T earlier.
Enzo, same shit really, strikers made careers out of him making them look awesome. There's absolutely feck all Savicevic does there which these two can't do but, in turn, you are losing the ability to actually score goals, plenty of them.
Re: Verón. At this stage, with two CBs who aren't particularly great on the ball, he may as well play him, but with some caveats.
1) He would be best served having someone who can hold the fort and let the CMs bomb forward.
2) Steer clear of the notion that Verón "dictates play" in any way shape or form. It's unreal to try picture a side with Kalle and Enzo in them handing the reins to Verón and being at his playmaking mercy. You have two guys who can drop deep or run the show in the final third, drag desperate markers onto them and create the space to slice through a defence in a split second decision but no, the brain is swanning around behind the halfway line. Seriously?
The job in that pivot/DM/anchor role is simple and limited to getting the ball out of defence and over to the ones who will make shit happen, while providing defensive stability/cover for the foraging CMs. Actually, Stielike would have been perfect. Has all Verón brings to the table and more. What he needs is someone who helps bring the ball out of defence and transition and I guess Verón can do that, not as effectively as someone like Stielike would (him being stuck in the heart of defending), but he sure can in a Carrick way. Conversely, Stielike is a credible "holder of the fort" when the other CMs bomb forward, which Verón isn't.
The point of this rant is not criticising VivaJ or his team, or his players, it is that hopefully we can better understand the players involved here. Way too often we go around saying X>Y and the point really is: "who are the stars? how do we get the best out of them? and therefore, what's the fecking job at hand?" and, in this case Stielike>Verón.
Viva will waltz past the first game anyway, but he still has time to consider the relevance of a striker over AM overload, and when reinforcements come he sure will have plenty of better options than Verón, so long as the job/role is properly defined.
Nope
Really wanted Alaba
No shit Sherlock
Looking at your defence it was clear you were leaving a spot for him if available.It looks a little bit like the one on the right
I was actually looking for a gif of that progression earlier to exemplify how a great player can turn to shit when misused Bollocks, this is a real arse now.
Just so we are clear: there will be no other chance to pick any of these players so anyone sending picks can actually knock himself out listing 3/4/5 ordered options as whichever they get they would never have a shot at the others.
Unless you think you have some hidden gem low in your priorities, obviously, but very friggin' unlikely.
Just so we are clear: there will be no other chance to pick any of these players so anyone sending picks can actually knock himself out listing 3/4/5 ordered options as whichever they get they would never have a shot at the others.
Unless you think you have some hidden gem low in your priorities, obviously, but very friggin' unlikely.
We can't do anything but sit on our arses and wait for Jayvin to show up which is at least a few hours. The one time Stob was online during his pick, Jayvin forgets to leave his.
Let's hear some stories about Stielike from @Balu if he has some. I've heard and read nothing but positive comments about him, as good a ball winner as you can find with a tremendous engine and a neat pass to boot. Not a fancy CM who can do it all but in his own job he won't look out of place among most players.
Let's hear some stories about Stielike from @Balu if he has some. I've heard and read nothing but positive comments about him, as good a ball winner as you can find with a tremendous engine and a neat pass to boot. Not a fancy CM who can do it all but in his own job he won't look out of place among most players.
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
@Jayvin
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
@Jayvin
Phew. The only story I know about him, is that he sang the title song of 'Heidi' all night long after Germany won the Euro in '80. It would have driven me crazy
. In case you don't know 'Heidi', here's the song in the German version:Poor Klaus Allofs, who shared a room with him back then.
Tremendous defensive midfielder and did a great job as a libero for Germany in '80 and '82. I haven't seen too much from his time at Real besides a few games in European competitions, but he already impressed in his first few seasons at Gladbach. The Wimmer, Bonhof and Stielike midfield was a brilliant combination and at the heart of Gladbach's 3 consecutive Bundesliga titles in the 2nd half of the 70's.
Why exactly? Does the song say anything remotely relevant, or is it like the chap in Touching the Void who had this terrible "show me a motion" tune stuck in his head on continuous play? If you don't know what I'm going on about, cracking film, but fastforward the bit with the tune because it ends up stuck in YOUR head.
I know the film and yes it's similar to that 'show me a motion' thing. It doesn't make any sense at all
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I just searched for an English version and found the original Japanese one with English subs, but it's really different to the German version. Seems like we got a new song just for us German viewers.
It's all very weird, a German footballer in Rome singing the theme song of a Japanese anime tv series about a young girl living in the Alps in Switzerland.
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I know him better tbf. Thats something for me. I can argue for Adams, can't argue for Prunier without spitting random things, which I prefer to avoid.That was the mighty William Prunier mate. What's Adams got that he doesn't?
@antohan Thanks, I guess I misread you have a point, the whole idea here is to learn about how to play to get the best out of my best players, which are Breitner and Kalle I suppose.
I think I'll leave Veron and gamble on getting a better CM if I qualify, I don't think I'll whisker through the first round, some teams here are great too. I have a classic 9 lined up in order to make Enzo and Kalle assist assist assist. Savicevic will probably have to earn his place from the bench
I know the film and yes it's similar to that 'show me a motion' thing. It doesn't make any sense at all
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I just searched for an English version and found the original Japanese one with English subs, but it's really different to the German version. Seems like we got a new song just for us German viewers.
It's all very weird, a German footballer in Rome singing the theme song of a Japanese anime tv series about a young girl living in the Alps in Switzerland.
Heidi is a Japanese series??? How?
I'll have to ponder what this realisation means for my life...
Yeah, one of the earlier works of the guys who later founded Studio Ghibli and made anime masterpieces like Graves of the fireflies. They made several anime tv series based on international literature. The Heidi series is based on the swiss children's books.Heidi is a Japanese series??? How?
I'll have to ponder what this realisation means for my life...
Heidi is a Japanese series??? How?
I'll have to ponder what this realisation means for my life...
It ain't. It's a children's book from the 19th century which has been adapted multiple times. The author was Swiss, hence the setting.
That makes more sense. Always good to learn new things, I never bothered to check who came up with the children's series I watched.
The one I remember from when I was a kid wasn't animated, it was live action. I think it was German, actually. There was this bloke narrating over the dialogue.
And then there's the classic movie from way back, with whatshername...Shirley Temple.
And then there's the classic movie from way back, with whatshername...Shirley Temple.
Yeah, I remember that as well. I never watched the animated series, I just know the song.
I'm quite fond of the animated series. It was just about the only TV I was allowed as a kid, one episode in the evening of Heidi, Wickie, Biene Maja, Nils Holgersson. Loved it.
Edit: And I've just found out they're all Japanese series. Thank you, Japan!
I know him better tbf. Thats something for me. I can argue for Adams, can't argue for Prunier without spitting random things, which I prefer to avoid.
@antohan Thanks, I guess I misread you have a point, the whole idea here is to learn about how to play to get the best out of my best players, which are Breitner and Kalle I suppose.
I think I'll leave Veron and gamble on getting a better CM if I qualify, I don't think I'll whisker through the first round, some teams here are great too. I have a classic 9 lined up in order to make Enzo and Kalle assist assist assist. Savicevic will probably have to earn his place from the bench
Sorry man, I've been winding you up. Prunier just popped into my head when people were hinting at 'bald French CBs'. Prunier is basically a cult figure for Utd fans as he's one of Fergie's most bizarre signings. We brought him in on loan, and iirc he played okay in his first match, had a shocker in his second match, then disappeared never to be to seen or heard of again. You'd have a tough time arguing Prunier's case in a draft match!I'm quite fond of the animated series. It was just about the only TV I was allowed as a kid, one episode in the evening of Heidi, Wickie, Biene Maja, Nils Holgersson. Loved it.
Edit: And I've just found out they're all Japanese series. Thank you, Japan!
Thought it was common knowledge all those series were Japanese, what with the huge eyes and tendency to communicate in sounds: "Oh", "Ah", "Urgh". About 50% of what happened was facial expressions along with sounds or slow motion stuff. I downloaded Marco (the D'Amicis character, while Heidi is from Juana Spyri) and Jackie and Nuca (two bears and a little indian boy) for my nieces a while back, they only managed to sit tight for about three minutes, the pace (or lack of) is unbearable, no idea what we had along with our food back then.
It's best you avoid it as you clearly have no credible basis to argue Will Prunier's case
Then again he IS the sort of player people would actually vote for just for kicks. I know I would. It'd be like sporting Milne. You'd vote for Milne - impossible not to, really.
I'd do it too to be fair.
Two hours till deadline for Jayvin by my clock.
This round is a bit of a killer. But the thing is that everyone has to field their chosen brat. And there really aren't many of 'em who are very highly rated. Just wait and see. People will play the unproven card and the inexperienced card and the haven't-peaked-yet card...and so forth - only to have the same cards played right back at them. So maybe it ain't so bad. They'll sort of nullify each other, these punks.
This round is a bit of a killer. But the thing is that everyone has to field their chosen brat. And there really aren't many of 'em who are very highly rated. Just wait and see. People will play the unproven card and the inexperienced card and the haven't-peaked-yet card...and so forth - only to have the same cards played right back at them. So maybe it ain't so bad. They'll sort of nullify each other, these punks.
Nothing stops you from dropping Gentile for Prunier. In fact, after the first round you can drop Scirea.
Meant I'd vote for the one picking Prunier. It is way too cheeky for me to pull off.
I'd try not to vote for him but...but...its William Prunier for crying out loud! If anyone deserves a sympathy/nostalgia vote its him.
Stob picked at 17.18, hasn't Jayvin ran out of time? If so, I have Theon's pick.
One thing I hate about xenforo is how it does't tell you current caf time
If you point at "a few second ago" it will tell you date and time of the message.One thing I hate about xenforo is how it does't tell you current caf time
Jayvin's time is up
(20:18 - 4:46 in my time zone)
Sorry lads, went to bed without PM'ing anyone. I'll pick Eden Hazard
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
@MJJ @Theon
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
@MJJ @Theon
Who's next?
Talk about last second!
MJJ/Theon pick Ricardo Rodríguez
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
@Skizzo
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski
02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville
03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi
04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry
05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara
06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu
07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà
08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain
09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez
10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard
11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman
12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar
13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva
14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba
15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane
16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos
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I'll be eternally grateful, has done my head in for a year or so now both in drafts and Werewolf, I never know what time it is!