The Reality Draft: Main Thread (Finals)

rpitroda said:
Wow Tresor, amazed no one picked him up so far.
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I think it's because everyone hopes to get Sammer in the next round who is a superior player playing in the same position. That's my excuse at least, would've pick him right after Viva would've got Sammer in DoF round.
 
Can't believe it wasn't my pick yet. This has moved incredibly slow during the night.

I don't think there's too many weak draws in the Defenders DoF, some might not fit everybody though. But most players are brilliant.
 

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SAMUEL ETO'O
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01. Annahnomoss - 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 3. Tardelli 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne
02. Chesterlestreet - 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior
03. Joga Bonito - 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 4. O. Ardiles 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby
04. Raees - 1. Morena 2. Makelele 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack
05. antohan - 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 3. Gerrard 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique
06. BorisDeLeFora - 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann
07. ctp - 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 6. Ribéry
08. Skizzo - 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes
09. MJJ (Theon) - 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 4. Dalglish 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath
10. Jayvin - 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 3. Iniesta 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars
11. Stobzilla - 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin
12. Aldo - 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor
13. The Red Viper - 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 5. Simonsen 6. Eto'o
14. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge
15. harms - 1. Puyol 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp
16. crappycraperson - 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer

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harms said:
Come fecking on!:mad:

Need to think a bit now, who to choose first
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I'm really surprised he lasted this long. When Viva sent me his pick yesterday I thought there was no chance he would last. Would have long nabbed him if it weren't for my early embarrassment of riches. They are so tight together I hold high hopes they may both bugger off to Argentina.

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01. Annahnomoss - 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 3. Tardelli 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne
02. Chesterlestreet - 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior
03. Joga Bonito - 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 4. O. Ardiles 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby
04. Raees - 1. Morena 2. Makelele 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack
05. antohan - 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 3. Gerrard 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique
06. BorisDeLeFora - 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann
07. ctp - 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 6. Ribéry
08. Skizzo - 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes
09. MJJ (Theon) - 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 4. Dalglish 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath
10. Jayvin - 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 3. Iniesta 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars
11. Stobzilla - 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin
12. Aldo - 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor
13. The Red Viper - 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 5. Simonsen 6. Eto'o
14. VivaJanuzaj - 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic
15. harms - 1. Puyol 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp
16. crappycraperson - 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer
 
antohan said:
I'm really surprised he lasted this long. When Viva sent me his pick yesterday I thought there was no chance he would last. Would have long nabbed him if it weren't for my early embarrassment of riches. They are so tight together I hold high hopes they may both bugger off to Argentina.

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yep, I somehow believed that everyone just forgot about him - many inferior players were picked earlier. Hate the 15th place, really, and it had to be the person just before me to pick him.

Thought that Viva would went for a more profiling goalscorer too, with Enzo and Rummenigge
 
harms said:
yep, I somehow believed that everyone just forgot about him - many inferior players were picked earlier. Hate the 15th place, really, and it had to be the person just before me to pick him.

Thought that Viva would went for a more profiling goalscorer too, with Enzo and Rummenigge
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Thought about it, but I wanted Kalle to play in the middle. It might still change with Tevebola obviously but I think that trio provides enough goals easily with the right midfield behind them.
 
I would have picked Savicevic if I had got a main striker in my DoF Forwards round. With Simonsen already there along with Prosinecki and Robben, I had no room.
 
Out of curiosity, does the WM formation have to strictly be:

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Or could you potentially stagger the midfield, something like;

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Now here Tigana isn't going to be playing alongside Cerarzo, but he'd in general be deeper than Robson. On the other hand, Robson would not be playing as high up as an AM or second striker, but he'd consistently be making movements toward and past that area of the pitch.
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
Out of curiosity, does the WM formation have to strictly be:

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Or could you potentially stagger the midfield, something like;
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Now here Tigana isn't going to be playing alongside Cerarzo, but he'd in general be deeper than Robson. On the other hand, Robson would not be playing as high up as an AM or second striker, but he'd consistently be making movements toward and past that area of the pitch.
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For my money that has to be fair. You'd do something similar for a modern formation - in fact I personally would do it for any formation, to give a more precise impression of what roles the players have, etc. What you have there is a W-M, it can hardly be called anything else.

Of course one might debate whether these players are suited for a W-M, but that's different.
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
Out of curiosity, does the WM formation have to strictly be:

xx--xx--xx
--xx--xx--
--xx--xx--
xx--xx--xx

Or could you potentially stagger the midfield, something like;

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Now here Tigana isn't going to be playing alongside Cerarzo, but he'd in general be deeper than Robson. On the other hand, Robson would not be playing as high up as an AM or second striker, but he'd consistently be making movements toward and past that area of the pitch.
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Let's see what others think, but personally my opinion is a no.

The WM is as advancement from the 2-3-5 mostly by Chapman. It involves a time where the roles are more strictly defines as in front 2 of the midfield box supports in offence and back 2 support defense.

Formation and roles of players should both be consistent. Tigana and Cerezo should be OK if they are primarily for defence and can support attack as per flow of game. Robson is not as he is not tasked with a role that a inside forward in that position should do.
 
Patience Viva, let us savour the drafting (also I have no clue what I'm doing next :P)
 
antohan said:
I think you got giddy and are screwing it up, but it's good insurance for Tevezbola.
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You think I should've went for a striker and played Kalle RiF?
Wanted to play him false nine-ish.. Was that a mistake? I think Savicevic and Enzo are perfect for inside forwards..
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
Out of curiosity, does the WM formation have to strictly be:

xx--xx--xx
--xx--xx--
--xx--xx--
xx--xx--xx

Or could you potentially stagger the midfield, something like;

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Now here Tigana isn't going to be playing alongside Cerarzo, but he'd in general be deeper than Robson. On the other hand, Robson would not be playing as high up as an AM or second striker, but he'd consistently be making movements toward and past that area of the pitch.
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You mean can it be a 3-4-3 diamond? I think EAP was very clear with his picture earlier. The wingers were forwards, your pulling them back makes them look midfielders first and forwards after. Robson looks a CM, when that chap would be an inside forward (e.g. Schiaffino). I'd argue that you are pulling the wool over our eyes.
 
antohan said:
You mean can it be a 3-4-3 diamond? I think EAP was very clear with his picture earlier. The wingers were forwards, your pulling them back makes them look midfielders first and forwards after. Robson looks a CM, when that chap would be an inside forward (e.g. Schiaffino). I'd argue that you are pulling the wool over our eyes.
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I am not pulling the wool over your eyes, I was trying to see how far it could be stretched, to potentially try and pull the wool over your eyes, so to speak. And yes, it is basically a 3-4-3 diamond.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
You think I should've went for a striker and played Kalle RiF?
Wanted to play him false nine-ish.. Was that a mistake? I think Savicevic and Enzo are perfect for inside forwards..
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I'm not sure if he's such a great fit as a false 9. He was always at his best when he played off a striker with great hold up play, didn't really matter if he started wide or in the middle. In my opinion brilliant AMs with great finishing are best suited to the false 9 role, because they love to drop into their 'natural' position. At least that's how I'd describe all the great false 9s in the game, from Hidegkuti and Cruyff to Messi. Wouldn't play wide forwards/2nd strikers like Rummenigge in that role, same goes for Cristiano Ronaldo or Stoichkov for example. They're free roaming goalscorers and really benefit from a striker with great hold-up play and good movement.
 
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VivaJanuzaj said:
You think I should've went for a striker and played Kalle RiF?
Wanted to play him false nine-ish.. Was that a mistake? I think Savicevic and Enzo are perfect for inside forwards..
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They are, problem is Kalle is better than Savicevic and belongs in that role, let alone with Breitner behind him. Again, I think it's good insurance for Tevezbola, Hargrief, Rio, etc. but I'd pick a different striker and there's one in particular who would be immense with those two.
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
I am not pulling the wool over your eyes, I was trying to see how far it could be stretched, to potentially try and pull the wool over your eyes, so to speak. And yes, it is basically a 3-4-3 diamond.
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I know you are not, I meant even if ruled OK I'd argue you are pullling the wool over our eyes and vote accordingly ;)
 
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