He’s a multi millionaire- I very much doubt he needs to do the punditry stuff. He just likes still being relevant and involved in the game. I think a lot of our ex players, that played under SAF, hate to see how far we’ve regressed and are naturally always pessimistic
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Totally agree. He's awful as a pundit.
Being a multi millionaire doesn’t mean you don’t need an income, especially these days.
Carra's wife is doing a series of marathons for charity, he's been taking time off to support her in that which is one of he reasons he's been away a lot recently, and fair play to him for admitting he couldn't dream of doing what she's doing
I liked the other Arsenal fan they usually have on. He was always calm and level headed.
They definitely need to find a different Chelsea fan. Rory is awful and it seems pretty obvious what he's doing, going out of his way to say outlandish takes so people can flood his social media platforms with hate.
The United fan seemed a bit downcast on the prospect of Amorim. I get it though, Ten Hag was also meant to be a young, exciting coach.
Rory is entertaining, well spoken and has ridiculous takes. Ofcourse, he's gonna do well in this industry. Think he was an actor before his YouTube career which explains why his delivery is so dramatic.
Do you have any others aside from Sophie?
I liked the part where the Chelsea fan told Paul Scholes Rodri wasn't as good a footballer as Vinicius.
I may go to the car to listen to this at lunch, could listen to Hoddle talk for hours without getting bored.
This was good.
Hoddle was a great guest.
Hoddle was a great guest.
Yeah this was definitely a good episode.
did they ask him about why he threw Beckham under the bus?
Good episode. Chilling the part about his heart episode. My dad has AF and can only be grateful my dad hasn't had a collapse like that.
Yeah agreed. Love Hoddle, he might not be a particularly great pundit but in this sort setting, I could listen him to speak about football and his career/life all day.
I can’t decide if I like Glenn hoddle or not. Sometimes he seems like a really nice bloke, sometimes a bit partridge, sometimes a bit weird. Does he still think disabled people are paying for past sins?
Tuchel is England’s 12th manager since Hoddle. To have gone from Hoddle to Wilkinson and then, permanently, Keegan just shows how limited the mindset at the FA was at the time. Hoddle’ England scored, on average, 1.5 goals a game and conceded under 0.5 goals a game not nearly as good an offensive record (fewer whipping boys played those days) as Southgate but a significantly better defensive record.
His implosion was a huge loss to the national team. Post his recovery he seems to have a great outlook on life.
His implosion was a huge loss to the national team. Post his recovery he seems to have a great outlook on life.
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The England Italy game they referenced. Heart in mouth stuff right at the end.
They actually played some wonderful football here.
They actually played some wonderful football here.
I feel like Moyes has exhasusted his stories now. Basically the same stuff that we have always heard and read.
I'm at the part where he's talking about his time at MU. He basically started lying, saying "I didn't want to change the philosophy of MU and wanted to continue what Sir Alex did", but he did change both the philosophy and he changed the backroom staff, so he basically changed everything he said didn't want to change. Found that funny tbh . I have no animosity towards him, but he did feck up for himself and MU at the time. So not sure why he's talking bullshit like that.
. I have no animosity towards him, but he did feck up for himself and MU at the time. So not sure why he's talking bullshit like that.Has he accepted any responsibility for fecking the United job up yet?
Absolutely not.
I'm at the part where he's talking about his time at MU. He basically started lying, saying "I didn't want to change the philosophy of MU and wanted to continue what Sir Alex did", but he did change both the philosophy and he changed the backroom staff, so he basically changed everything he said didn't want to change. Found that funny tbh
I have plenty of animosity towards him, pretty much because he constantly talks bullshit about his period at Manchester United. He had no idea what he was doing or getting himself into.
David Moyes: I don't understand why they don't just trust managers with recruitment.
Also David Moyes: Once we couldn't get Fabregas and Bale, I didn't really have any back-up to what I wanted. And then I bought Marouanne Fellaini.
Also David Moyes: Once we couldn't get Fabregas and Bale, I didn't really have any back-up to what I wanted. And then I bought Marouanne Fellaini.
That's exactly what we've done.
I had to stop watching tbh, he was just talking out of his ass, specially during that MU part. Doesn't help that he isn't that much of an interesting character or manager.
Hoddle and then Moyes... such a contrast. One was great and the other was Moyes.
The bit about United managers not getting enough time is hilarious fictionality.
LVG, Mourinho, Ole and ETH all had plenty of time.
LVG, Mourinho, Ole and ETH all had plenty of time.
That sums up his reign.
I wonder if Fellaini / Baines were always part of the plan along with those two though. Still trash management to not have backup options at a time when most players in the world would join you.
It also annoys me in those stories when he says he let Fabregas and Bale have the power in the situation and telling him to wait on stuff. That separates the big boy managers from the ones below. He should have told them nah, feck that, you come now or don't come at all and moved on to other targets if they refused.
Roy never mentioned the time he played golf with Denis.
This popped up on my YouTube the other day, was looking for Irwin's goals and freekicks. Would love to know what he was thinking with those clothes.
This popped up on my YouTube the other day, was looking for Irwin's goals and freekicks. Would love to know what he was thinking with those clothes.
What other multi billion $ valued business would have no plan B for such key decisions and not have made an assessment on the probability of favourable outcomes?
I'm sure they are. There were reports in June already that we tried to sign Baines and were rejected. As for Fellaini, I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere that we just didn't want him to be Moyes's first signing.
Have the players accepted that they half-arsed it that season ?
I mean it just highlights how the club wasn't set up in a way for modern football club (nor was/is Moyes a modern manager). From what I heard, he was set up to fail, the club basically waited on Cesc for the first game of La Liga and then spent too long trying to get Bale.
Moyes wasn't the right guy anyway, so it doesn't matter but just goes to show how the club overly relied on SAF and it would have been a huge challenge for any manager to come in and succeed. I think Mourinho would have probably been the best fit of old school manager to fit the archaic football structure.
At that time, quite a few of the top PL clubs weren't set up in the way they are now and United didn't know any better under SAF, so I guess it was just to be expected.
It shows a fault in the club but also in Moyes. He bangs on in the interview about clubs trusting managers with recruiting but then points out a massive red flag in his recruitment strategy by waiting for those two/not having back-ups. That is also the clubs fault as they shouldn't have been operating in a those two or nothing situation.
‘I was bringing Baines in as backup to Evra’. Sure you were Moyes
Not once in the eleven years that has passed has he taken any responsibility for the shit show that became of that season.
The club was a mess structurally. Saint Gill , the Glazers, and to a lesser extent, Ferguson, were to blame for that. But Moyes was completely out of his depth and had no business being in that role.
I still think to this day that he’d have had more success had he used aspects of his last Everton team as something of a blueprint. They were a good side and played like a team. We played some really shit stuff in those final years, and it wasn’t beyond the realm of possibility that a manager came in and made some positive tweaks in the right direction. Hilariously, it’s only gone and got worse over time.
My favourite Moyes story is the one where he tried to take the lads on a morning jog down at the beach before being evacuated from thousands of fans. Summed him up.
The club was a mess structurally. Saint Gill , the Glazers, and to a lesser extent, Ferguson, were to blame for that. But Moyes was completely out of his depth and had no business being in that role.
I still think to this day that he’d have had more success had he used aspects of his last Everton team as something of a blueprint. They were a good side and played like a team. We played some really shit stuff in those final years, and it wasn’t beyond the realm of possibility that a manager came in and made some positive tweaks in the right direction. Hilariously, it’s only gone and got worse over time.
My favourite Moyes story is the one where he tried to take the lads on a morning jog down at the beach before being evacuated from thousands of fans. Summed him up.