The New Kits Thread

decorativeed said:
I have several. Got them off ebay, they crop up occasionally. Alternitively, get yourself an old 1998-2000 United home shirt (should be able to get one for a few quid off ebay) and cut the crest off it.

I'm sure a shop that does embroidery might be able to sort that out as well.
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Good good....The biggest problem will be getting the England crest off, since it's bigger than the United one...I'd need some extra fabric to stich in it's place wouldn't I?...I'd need someone who actually knows how to do it to do it...I might get searching on't net
 
Mockney said:
Good good....The biggest problem will be getting the England crest off, since it's bigger than the United one...I'd need some extra fabric to stich in it's place wouldn't I?...I'd need someone who actually knows how to do it to do it...I might get searching on't net
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Buy the largest size shirt and use the back of it as the front of the new one. There would be no Umbro logo either, obviously.
 
Mockney said:
No I'm fine with the Umbro logo tbh...I got so incensed I wrote an article tho...I knicked the Sports Direct idea, I wanna make it a campaign

Forget the World Cup, here's a new kit!! Now shut up and give us your money. | FootballFanCast.com
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1st paragraph, "designers often put on new kits in an attempt to make them modern or futuristic ahead of time – in the way 1980s Sci Fi films tried to make their outfits futuristic ahead of time – but which only ever succeed in making them look dated in a few years – in the way 1980s Sci Fi films looked dated in a few years – it was simplistically. "
 
Mockney said:
No I'm fine with the Umbro logo tbh...I got so incensed I wrote an article tho...I knicked the Sports Direct idea, I wanna make it a campaign

Forget the World Cup, here's a new kit!! Now shut up and give us your money. | FootballFanCast.com
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What I meant was that if you were to buy two shirts and disassemble them, using the plain back of one as the front of the final shirt (in order not to have an England crest on it) there would obviously not be any Umbro logo on it. If you were to dye it red, you would not be able to see the logo anyway.

If you are anything like me and give this a go, you will inevitably start off with expectation and confidence and be left hours later with a lot of bits of material that you will never get back together ever again. At least not outside of a carrier bag.

In your article you mention a "limited edition blue away kit England have never worn" - it was never going to be worn. They released both the home and away kits in a "tonal range". The same shirts in a variety different colours, not intended for anything other than retail. There is a never-seen-outside-of-Umbro third kit that is supposed to be navy blue though this is not the same thing.

By the way, I'm getting someone to have a look at that 1958 shirt tomorrow to see how we can go about making a replica prototype.
 
I bought a long sleeved current England shirt today in Sports Direct, it was £15 but the last one in small :wenger:
 
Well it was either the small or the XL and I'm not a fat bastard! I'm usually medium but small fits :nervous:
 
I like the new England kit. Like the nod to the 70's admiral kit with light royal shorts. Peter Saville is a Manchester music design legend, did most of the Factory Records stuff.

Don't like the blue crosses though, why? I think I'd rather see the collar first but it looks ok.

Still wished they'd kept the last one another year, it only came out last April.
 
I don't care if Jimmy Saville designed it, I think it's an absolute disgrace that they really think a new £50 kit is the way to get England fans back onside....psschhh
 
77 said:
I like the new England kit. Like the nod to the 70's admiral kit with light royal shorts. Peter Saville is a Manchester music design legend, did most of the Factory Records stuff.

Don't like the blue crosses though, why? I think I'd rather see the collar first but it looks ok.

Still wished they'd kept the last one another year, it only came out last April.
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Yeah, he is, but what's he done recently? As far as I am aware he has never designed clothing in his career, so why did Umbro think this would be a good project for him?

Actually, he did that new logo for Manchester didn't he, which shows that nowadays, he really likes multi-coloured stuff, which is a better explanation for those crosses and an indicator that perhaps he wasn't the best choice to design a plain white shirt.
 
The new England kit isn't half bad but....I don't know...doesn't quite look like a football kit.
 
Not an Englishman but that multicoloured St. Georges cross really gets on my tits, there is nothing offensive about the flag, bunch of pretentious nonsense. What next? Will they remove the cross in case it offends atheists or non Christians?
 
decorativeed said:
What I meant was that if you were to buy two shirts and disassemble them, using the plain back of one as the front of the final shirt (in order not to have an England crest on it) there would obviously not be any Umbro logo on it. If you were to dye it red, you would not be able to see the logo anyway.

If you are anything like me and give this a go, you will inevitably start off with expectation and confidence and be left hours later with a lot of bits of material that you will never get back together ever again. At least not outside of a carrier bag.

In your article you mention a "limited edition blue away kit England have never worn" - it was never going to be worn. They released both the home and away kits in a "tonal range". The same shirts in a variety different colours, not intended for anything other than retail. There is a never-seen-outside-of-Umbro third kit that is supposed to be navy blue though this is not the same thing.

By the way, I'm getting someone to have a look at that 1958 shirt tomorrow to see how we can go about making a replica prototype.
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OK, I'm going to do it...I've ordered 2 England kits...I'm going to either see if I can unstitch the badge, or if I have to, simply cut it out and replace it with some fabric from the other shirt...I don't need to use the back (also, there are air holes on the back so it isn't plain.) simply cut around the crest and replace it with some fabric and then a United badge...any stitching would be minor, and I'd be dying it red anyway...

What colour red did you use for your mock up?...I'm going to use that as a template..keeping the white collar trim and dying the umbro badge white.
 
Mockney said:
OK, I'm going to do it...I've ordered 2 England kits...I'm going to either see if I can unstitch the badge, or if I have to, simply cut it out and replace it with some fabric from the other shirt...I don't need to use the back (also, there are air holes on the back so it isn't plain.) simply cut around the crest and replace it with some fabric and then a United badge...any stitching would be minor, and I'd be dying it red anyway...

What colour red did you use for your mock up?...I'm going to use that as a template..keeping the white collar trim and dying the umbro badge white.
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You will not be able to dye a red silk-embroidered logo any colour, you might be able to bleach it to some extent but it will never be white. Even if you do manage it, you'll be wanting to dye the shirt it is applied to red.

Cutting out a large section of material then putting a patch over it will look absolutely terrible.

The only way it could have been achieved is if the back was the same material, but I had forgotten about the ventilation holes. Unless you are a small size and you got a XXXL shirt that had enough spare material on the front below the crest to use as a blank front on the small shirt, it's just not going to happen, you may as well chuck your £30 down the drain.

As for the colour red, I'm not sure what I used, but a hex code would not be analogous to a dye colour anyway.
 
Umbro have definitely improved in terms of sex appeal since they were brought out by nike. The new england kit looked ace, but I think it was more down to the blue shorts.. and for that reason I don't see the point of buying the new shirt so soon after the last one.
 
decorativeed said:
You will not be able to dye a red silk-embroidered logo any colour, you might be able to bleach it to some extent but it will never be white. Even if you do manage it, you'll be wanting to dye the shirt it is applied to red.
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Can't I just paint it in acrylic or something?...Plus I've got enough red England shirts I can transport a white umbro from, and a few fake United shirts I can use for the crest....Come on, work with me here

Cutting out a large section of material then putting a patch over it will look absolutely terrible.
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I won't be putting a patch over it...I'll be replacing the cut out fabric with other fabric, and then applying the patch to that...but yes, the stitching would most likely be visible..I'm looking at my current England shirt now, and the badge is stitched over material, so it may be feasible to just unstitch it...though I've now of course just noticed the fecking WC winning star..which is a pain..I'll need to get rid of that too, or add two more either side of it...this is going to be a nightmare.

The only way it could have been achieved is if the back was the same material, but I had forgotten about the ventilation holes. Unless you are a small size and you got a XXXL shirt that had enough spare material on the front below the crest to use as a blank front on the small shirt, it's just not going to happen, you may as well chuck your £30 down the drain.

As for the colour red, I'm not sure what I used, but a hex code would not be analogous to a dye colour anyway.
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Damn it I'm not giving up that easily...I could just get it made from scratch on a blank polo shirt...But I really want it on that kit, cos it's such a nice material/design.
 
Mockney said:
Can't I just paint it in acrylic or something?...Plus I've got enough red England shirts I can transport a white umbro from, and a few fake United shirts I can use for the crest....Come on, work with me here



I won't be putting a patch over it...I'll be replacing the cut out fabric with other fabric, and then applying the patch to that...but yes, the stitching would most likely be visible..I'm looking at my current England shirt now, and the badge is stitched over material, so it may be feasible to just unstitch it...though I've now of course just noticed the fecking WC winning star..which is a pain..I'll need to get rid of that too, or add two more either side of it...this is going to be a nightmare.



Damn it I'm not giving up that easily...I could just get it made from scratch on a blank polo shirt...But I really want it on that kit, cos it's such a nice material/design.
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Your surname's not Steptoe is it?
 
Raees said:
Umbro have definitely improved in terms of sex appeal since they were brought out by nike. The new england kit looked ace, but I think it was more down to the blue shorts.. and for that reason I don't see the point of buying the new shirt so soon after the last one.
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:lol: Sex appeal?
 
If you're after the new England shirt, save yourself some money and get down to Topman.

£7.00 - bargain.

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Hate to admit it, but RAWK did a good job on that. Not only with the design, but in actually getting that design onto a shirt without it looking shit (FCUM could learn from that). Damn sight better than the MUST job too
 
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New York Cosmos... Great shirt for a team that doesn't actually exist.
 
I think this 'world champions badge' looks awful and makes their kit worse. Did Italy also have it?

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Maciek said:
I think this 'world champions badge' looks awful and makes their kit worse. Did Italy also have it?
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Yeah, it was centralized though like the club world champions badge.
 
I think the world champions badge is well earned and a mark of respect. I never heard anyone complaining when we wore the world club champions badge through the Champions League matches a couple of years back. Christ, I dare to dream England get to wear it before I die.
 
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