They’re doing perfectly well.
The issue is that Mueller has his hands tied by DOJ policy, ongoing investigations and classified information so the Republicans can go full Q-Anon and Mueller is completely unable to set the record straight.
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They’re doing perfectly well.
The issue is that Mueller has his hands tied by DOJ policy, ongoing investigations and classified information so the Republicans can go full Q-Anon and Mueller is completely unable to set the record straight.
What an absolute disgrace the Republicans are.
Jim Jordan's questioning will go down well with the Republicans
Name dropping Papadopulous, Halper, Misfud, Carter Page
Name dropping Papadopulous, Halper, Misfud, Carter Page
Look, I'm all for giving him the benefit of the doubt and I can see what the Reps are trying to do, but this is also happening when the Dems are asking. He just looks nervous and not confident. He should be more forceful when he CAN answer. But, he isn't. Body language matters in these events, and his body language is not good. People look at these things, whether we like it or not.
I don't disagree for those who are actually watching this but let's face it - most people are not. That's not to say of course they won't use bites from the hearing in party propaganda and push out a narrative similar to Hillary - that he is physically and mentally unwell, etc etc. Clearly the Rs have no depths to which they will not go.
The Republicans know what they're doing.
I also think that it's pretty clear now that nothing really happened.
I also think that it's pretty clear now that nothing really happened.
Well that's Trump set up for 2020.
Other than Obstruction of Justice, but that’s just so meh...
What Democrats are trying to do? Seriously, what are they trying to do?
They're keeping it simple, Trump attempted to obstruct justice and it is an impeachable offence.
Gaetz is unbelievable rude and arrogant. Mueller has unbelievable patience.
What more can they do?
I'm sorry what!?
The report says, clearly, the President:
Ordered Flynn to reach out to hackers who claimed to his opponents emails, which he did
Deliberately lied about his business interests in the foreign power helping him win an election
Pushed foreign policies beneficial to that power after his staff met with that power
Asked his AG to investigate his opponents
Fired the head of the FBI in attempt to avoid personal investigations
Asked his AG numerous times to fire the SC
And that's just off the top of my head.
The fact the public are too stupid to care has nothing to do with nothing happening. The report is bombshell after bombshell all worse than Watergate but because the public are too ignorant to read past 128 characters we are here.
Unfortunately this seems to all be playing out very well for the republicans.
You're convinced, and so am I. But, this list has not been made clear in 2 hours of testimony today, and that's the failure of the Democrats.
I agree. I disagree with the post that nothing happened!!!
I'm a little gob-smacked by how Mueller has come across in this hearing. He just seems a little frail and out of his depth. Considering that he's been on this report for the last two years, I would have expected him to be on it. He just seems a little lost out there.
It's because they have a shameless method: feign outrage, divert, and cast doubt on credible people.
That is exactly right. Sadly effective.
The Republicans are spending a lot of their time making “agenda statements” and asking convoluted questions trying to trip Mueller up. No wonder he’s getting confused. I am too.
Mueller seems to be doing a little better now.
Dems are covering questions on obstruction of justice (Volume 1) When the investigation moves to the House Intelligence they will cover Volume 2.
GOP are trying to discredit the Steele Dossier etc. They are desperate to steer well away from obstruction questions.
His brain can't keep up with how fast they are talking.
Mueller losing patience with the GOP now...
That's probably as close to an admission that Trump would have been charged with obstruction had it not been for DOJ policy as the Dems are likely to get. Still a pretty significant admission.
Take away the nonsense, and it's damning (just as the Report was).
Can yours?
This would explain why the Dems are merely trying or able to elicit yes/no type answers. Which begs the question why did they agree to it in the first place?
That will be key, how they edit a narrative with the questions and his responses. Play that ad nauseum and the message will sink in with Joe Q Public.
Watching Mueller, I wonder how he was the FBI director for 12 years.
After listening to the exchange with Ted Lieu it seems that Mueller has just admitted that he didn’t indict Trump because of the DOJ opinion on not being able to indict a sitting President.
I look at the GOP and I'm just picturing them as sinister,grotesque Ralph Steadman illustrations.