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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Absolutely baffled why this man is getting so much love for having done so little for us. It's a cult.
Even if you look past the near endless false dawns under Mourinho, you cannot deny the outstanding issues with regards to our so-called attack, the fundamental one being our wingers contributing absolutely nothing in the way of goal scoring opportunities. I'm not sure if it's the system that is causing the trouble or a lack of ability on their part, but one way or another it isn't working on a consistent basis.
Doesn't even have to be a false 9 I guess, he played striker for Arsenal and did really well there. The problem is his height. Mourinho will have to alter his gameplan a lot to get the best out of Sanchez, or indeed any other striker option we have other than Lukaku (who's not a good target man anyway).
But persisting with him is just delaying the inevitable. This is another wasted season. A new manager with a proper footballing vision can at least use the rest of the season to implement his ideas and prepare for the next one.
I never changed my vote, I won't slate him but he's not the right fit for us.
The football we've played considering he's been here 2 years isn't good enough.
The football we've played considering he's been here 2 years isn't good enough.
He just doesn't have any fresh ideas anymore. When we need a goal doesn't know anything other than play route 1 football to a target man. A target man who isn't really a target man because his first touch is terrible and he can't hold the ball up when we need it. What's the point? He just throws all the attackers on at once and sacrifices midfield control but we don't play to their strengths either. When we actually try to play football we get opened up with ease.It's very confusing for me that he hasn't built a team which can attack and defend with organization. 400 million and almost 2 and half season is enough.
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A cult indeed.
Think people took SAF's speech on backing the manager as back the manager no matter what.
Jose has failed for what was expected of him.
Subbing Fred out makes no sense whatsoever
I'd go much further than that and say I wasn't impressed even during our 4-0 wins last season. They were opportunistic performances against opponents in terrible form, we hardly played with intensity and mostly strolled to easy wins. We had some good games, not denying that. But not the ones we won big.
He is our Donald Trump.
Weird because your reasons sound very much like the reasons the “lunatics” gave for wanting him gone.
West Ham opening game was good I thought.
Thought it was a sign of things to come, but that was a big anomaly.
To me, they either make sure he has the players suited to the style, because too many of these aren't. Or we get another manager, although I think a lot of these players would not be right for a Klopp/Pep style manager either. We need a more mobile striker, better options out wide and make sure Dalot/Shaw play or if not other fullback who are a threat. All these years have been wasted and a couple of trophies have deluded people into thinking the team is right. Not sure Jose is the only one to blame for that. Not enough proper scouting being done, too much being fooled by agent. We have got lazy.
Where were Liverpool when Jose took over? Much has been said about not being able to catch City, but if Liverpool come above us this season, given where they were in terms of their squad when Jose took over, that should be the nail in the coffin.
What game was that? I'm not taking the piss, just curious which game you thought we played well in for 90 minutes.
Ye well it’s been dire since the day he walked in. The club is an absolute mess and let’s face it nobody within has got a clue how to turn it around.
Is the plane banner exonerating him of all faults and laying all the blame on Ed still considered a wise decision, I am having second thoughts in that it may have lured him into a position of complacency, and Ed might hesitate to do the right thing when the time comes if he perceives Jose to have the backing of the fans.
Winning feck all (well, anything that's worth winning anyway) under him so really the poll is asking how ambitious are you?
Burnley, but they were dire too.
Still, we showed something that game going forward.
Another false 'dawn' though. Clearly down to Burnley being so bad.
Burnley. It’s all relative mate.
I understand what you're saying but most of the players we have Jose bought them, they were his choices. This is why I want a DOF tbh but that's for another conversation.
Woodward didn't sack Moyes and Van Gaal til the very end.
Same will apply with Jose too.
It'll be a 'mutual' decision for him to leave at the end at the decision.
I don't like what he brings to United and haven't for some time. Sadly that isn't going to change anytime soon because we aren't going to sack him. I hope he can turn it around, which is basically wishful thinking, as I know he won't.
I'd file it under the category of matches where the opponent was so bad that we strolled to an easy win. It was one of our better games, to be fair.
If he doesn't qualify for the CL he'll get sacked, looking difficult to make top 4 this season.
Only one of the defence was, Lindelof. He did not buy Fellaini. He did not buy Lingard, Martial or Mata all played today. The summer we bought Lukaku there were not really any options out there. It is the Sanchez signing that appears to have derailed us.
Yeah, probably was to be honest. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
Pretty much. Best case scenario is we get awfully lucky and get enough results to finish in the top 4. It’s foolish to expect a grander change in our overall progression. It’s not going to be beautiful, neither will there be a bigger picture.
I'd be interested to know who the options are should we sack him.
Zidane is the obvious choice but I'm not entirely sure he is a good candidate. I'd be looking at someone who can play a braver style of football, someone who will take more risks and ask the players to accept responsibility on the field rather than taking the safest option all the time.
Zidane is the obvious choice but I'm not entirely sure he is a good candidate. I'd be looking at someone who can play a braver style of football, someone who will take more risks and ask the players to accept responsibility on the field rather than taking the safest option all the time.
Wow!
Exactly! I am surprised how many fans fail to grasp this. You cannot blame the manager for one-off shoddy individual performances. But if it becomes a trend, the buck stops at the manager. It is his job to get the best out of the squad.
I'd give him all the way to next season. This summer's transfer was enough of a fiasco that he deserves another one to make it right.
agree with the first part but how much worse could we actually do? I am pretty sure that Moyes didn't have much worse record 6 games 10 points, only played Spurs at home! That's pretty horrible. Not trying say we should sack him now especially after a game like this where we were a bit unlucky but we shouldn't wait till the end of the season if we look the same faceless team without any philosophy with underperforming players
The best "proven" options are currently coaching at 3 of our biggest rivals sadly.
Dont think you understood it. I dont want him gone but my reasons for that arent even close to reasons of those who worship him on cult level ( lunatics ).
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