Not sure what you laughing for but then again I was arguing with someone who didn't know what he was posting. So this post fits well
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Not sure what you laughing for but then again I was arguing with someone who didn't know what he was posting. So this post fits well
I don't want to be smart ass here, but i think that this 3rd option is killing poll. It would be better to have 2 options. Do you want/trust/support Mourinho? Yes or no.
How is it killing the poll when it's a position a lot of people have? They aren't convinced about him but aren't sure we should sack him either. Seems a reasonable position.
Yes, not arguing that. Killing was wrong word. I am just curious how would people vote without that option.
Still where is your evidence that was where he was for as the poster asked/suggested. many a player has looked like a good player at a tournament. See Kleberson, Denilson, recently Sanches and there will be many more. He is a slightly above average player on the left for Inter who overhits crosses more than Young.
Serious question, have any of his signings been a real success?
Mourinho is at a key point when he can can still change the minds of those who look at him negatively. There has been a groundswell of optimism that started in a defeat against Spurs, based on a more aggressive, attacking outlook, fullbacks released, numbers supporting the attack, a greater emphasis on trying to attack the match. That is what most of his critics, myself included, wanted, less of the crying about what you don't have, get the best out of what you do.
There is plenty of talent in this Utd squad, it is ok to have expected a greater level of attacking intent, and for Mou to maintain and improve upon it with practice and confidence. I can accept Utd finishing 2-4th if I can see a style of play building and players developing, but doing the same while playing as we have for much of this year, no.
There is plenty of talent in this Utd squad, it is ok to have expected a greater level of attacking intent, and for Mou to maintain and improve upon it with practice and confidence. I can accept Utd finishing 2-4th if I can see a style of play building and players developing, but doing the same while playing as we have for much of this year, no.
Well we didn't get second place last year off of Bastian and Morgans hard work..
I thought we got 2nd cuz Chelsea and Arsenal were shiite nothing to do with us or Mourinho being good!
Weird to get second space because 4 teams decided to be shite in one season. That's such a miraculous and unprecedented luck I have to say.
If by 'real success' mean season-start-to-finish consistent top form performances, worthy enough to at least be a contender in team of the season, and winning trophies... then to be honest no.
Still...
Zlatan - League Cup. The C. Shield as well technically. Helped us progress through the Europa League.
Mkhi - Europa League.
Pogba - EL, LC, FA Cup, 2nd place EPL.
Sanchez - FA Cup final.
Matic - integral player all competition.
Lukaku - 2nd place EPL. FA Cup.
Can't deny those players play important roles.
The rest is mostly under the "for future" group, considering their inconsistency, age and good potential (Bailly, Lindelof, Dalot, J. Pereira). Grant is here as a kpr cover. Fred just joined.
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They were mainly who I were referring to tbh. It's like they're just lurking in the shadows, waiting for this meltdown to materialise so that they can go full beast mode on Mourinho. Quite sad really. He's won more than Klopp and Poch in the short time he's been here despite the 'state' we've been in but they want him gone?
Don't be surprised by these people that are hoping for the team to fail just so the manager leaves. LVG got similar treatment and it's disgraceful.
They would rather the team fail than succeed in a way they don't want. Not really sure you can call these type of people fans, wishing the team to lose for their own gain is an awful lot like rival fans.
They would rather the team fail than succeed in a way they don't want. Not really sure you can call these type of people fans, wishing the team to lose for their own gain is an awful lot like rival fans.
I might one of these people unfortunately. It's not anything particularly anything about Jose - he has historically been the most successful manager - yet, his teams have weaknesses - weaknesses he himself neglects, weaknesses he himself causes.
Are we the best attacking team? Do we plan to be? Is the players he buys the best we can actually get- not just for him but for the future of United? Is he playing with the best formation? Is he currently playing with the best players he has, never mind the players he wants to buy?
Does he have the best use of the current squad? For example - is he actually currently using the best use of his strikers when he targets such a central approach of getting the best of very few players that he himself regards as key to winning the match. What about the midfield? Has he got technical players in there - or does he prefer strength & height spread across the first team with few bits of technicality? What about his defense? Has he got the best out of them - has he got the right players?
United for me after LVG was a blank slate - nothing particularly strong there but the ability to freely build a style of football. Players like Lukaku, Fred, Matic, a seemingly past it Sanchez, the transfer linked players like Perisic, Willian & Alderweireld - who would those players actually suit post Mourinho? They are very specific type of players that suit a very specific strict type of football - if at all we get a manager one day that prioritises technicality able, technically efficient players- would they be the best players available?
The players, the tactics Jose uses & wants is to carve out success - but his success is not permanent; success is short term & that's all well good if it's done in a way that can be progressed especially if United continued with the football that Jose has implemented at the club - but I don't see it that way; I don't think Woodward does either.
Why some fans might big up Klopp & Pep is ultimately they have raised the club on to a ladder - they can get better, they can even get successful later on whether that be a different manager. I saw a manager like Luis Enrique do fantastic with some of the philosophy that Guardiola used - I could see the same happening to the current City or the Current Liverpool.
With United - I'm not sure; the players, the style of football - I could think of a very few managers that could utilize what Jose initialised here; maybe someone like Simeone - but saying that I take the majority of managers that are currently available and also the new ones that are ex players - they would rather use a squad with the technically sound abilities of the teams that you mentioned than the team we currently have. For example - Lukaku, a fantastic player - but requires the whole team to supply him with chances in a certain fashion - is he a player that the next manager would be able to or want to properly utilise?
I could go on - but to some of us a short term wonderful feeling that arises from us winning the league lasts only for a little whilst - a season & ultimately we want us to grow in to where success is a consequence of our football rather than the other way around - its more of a long term success.
There is nothing against Jose the person - there is something about Jose's United that does not feel the best it could be. Saying that - one thing is this PL from top to bottom is probably the hardest competition I have ever seen; from the new wolves, Watford to the likes of City & Liverpool. Last year would have been a title winning team except the Premier league was harder & all the teams either know how to play or react to technicality - that's where I just don't think of him as good as he used to be; his football does not safely & routinely weaken the opposition anymore because they are used to much better/worse.
Lee Dixon confirming what we all thought about the press and Mourinho! Puts a bit of perspective on Mourinho's demeanour in the pressers.
Who needs the ABU media and press when you have 'fans' like these 
Oh lord.. I sincerely hope this is sarcasm..
Amen to this post. Seeing facts instead of the usual "I want more flair attacking players because I only watch good football otherwise it's not ManUtd!!!!"
I never mentioned that - read my posts again. I addressed the two nonsensical statements he made and you later defended.
Are we talking about Messi and Ronaldo here or Martial and Rashford? He was looking for more experienced players to improve the team, it's not some sort of conspiracy to not play Rashford and Martial. If I was Mourinho, both of them would be on loan somewhere until they turn in to real players, that is if they do.
More points dropped
8 points behind Liverpool
0 goal difference after 6 matches
Better not say anything though as I just can't wait to see United lose apparently
More possession yet De Gea to the rescue yet again
#MourinhoIn
8 points behind Liverpool
0 goal difference after 6 matches
Better not say anything though as I just can't wait to see United lose apparently
More possession yet De Gea to the rescue yet again
#MourinhoIn
It's fickle. A run of 2-3 wins and the vote shifts towards 'Mourinho in'
Just watch how it changes towards 'Mourinho out' over the next couple of hours. Currently 48.3%, bet it goes up.
Just watch how it changes towards 'Mourinho out' over the next couple of hours. Currently 48.3%, bet it goes up.
Get him out. Do whatever it takes
Wake the feck up Woody you Pep Guardiola is my idol.
the guy is washed up. we need to get rid
Wolves play much better football. Speaks Volumes.
When the milk is stale, you don't put it back in the fridge. You froh it out and buy new milk.
Is there literally anything else he could have done that would have made any of our expensive forward line find the net? This is a knee-jerk if ever I saw one.
Haha where are all the "true supporters" backing Mourinho? You call yourself a supporter watching United fail under this guy? He isn't good enough. Get him out ffs. Give a new manager the December window
Well well well...its inevitable cuz our play is getting worse.
De Gea can only bail you out 50% of the time but our play is horrid and like I said after our last win when De Gea bailed us out, next time he wont.
Mourinho needs to be gone ASAP.
De Gea can only bail you out 50% of the time but our play is horrid and like I said after our last win when De Gea bailed us out, next time he wont.
Mourinho needs to be gone ASAP.
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He bought this forward line ffs!
He was very lucky to finish second last season with DDG statistically making a phenomenal amount of saves to keep our dross football alive. This season will truly show that this 'improvement' his staunch defenders keep referring to on this site is a farce. Their last wall of defense for a manager that doesn't warrant it is going to break down. Fighting for fourth if we're lucky.
But of course it will be Lukaku's fault. A player he himself has been preparing groundwork for before we bought him (google the articles with quotes). Or Pogba's (same as above, search the quotes). Or the defence, two crap players bought by him.
Ah, but he can't do anything wrong, Woodward googled the internet and forced them onto him.
But of course it will be Lukaku's fault. A player he himself has been preparing groundwork for before we bought him (google the articles with quotes). Or Pogba's (same as above, search the quotes). Or the defence, two crap players bought by him.
Ah, but he can't do anything wrong, Woodward googled the internet and forced them onto him.
Into his third season and has spent over £300 million yet the team continues to look like amateurs when they're attacking...
The only metric that matters is the result. If he can't manage a group of expensive players to beat a promotion side at OT then he's done.
I think his time is up. We need something fresh. Get that bald french fecker in now!
He bought two of them or have you forgotten? Ultimately if they're not good enough that falls on Mourinho as well.
Some fickle fans were changing votes cause of three-run of the mill wins.
8 points off the top already with an easier fixture list is damning. I said I’d judge him at Christmas but it’s not looking good so far. There is just no consistency in anything we do I hate it.
Signing Sanchez has really really damaged us as a team. We’ve gone backwards ever since he arrived.
Signing Sanchez has really really damaged us as a team. We’ve gone backwards ever since he arrived.
He deserves every bit of criticism coming his way. He's had 3 fecking years and enough support to manage a victory against a newly promoted side at home. Instead we looked like the away team for most part of the game with ancient kick and run style of play.
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