The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%

  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%

  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%
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Flexdegea said:
Here Me thinking Barca been playing the same stuff since beginning of time.......and Jose whole successful ethos with winning trophies came about to get back at Barca.......imagine if he adopted this Barca philosophy...............who would have thought all long He was just trolling us at United with the shit on stick football and mad bizarre tactics and formations.......it was all to stick it to Barca.


Insane actually
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It maybe or maybe not. But there are plenty of articles about it written by many people. He apparently never got over it after they rejected him. When he was LVG's assistant at Barca, they say he was not this way and was very happy with the way they played. I think it is personal with him as is everything with him.
His dislike of Pep started from that time he took over Barca instead of Jose who was the assistant of LVG.
 
Foxbatt said:
It maybe or maybe not. But there are plenty of articles about it written by many people. He apparently never got over it after they rejected him. When he was LVG's assistant at Barca, they say he was not this way and was very happy with the way they played. I think it is personal with him as is everything with him.
His dislike of Pep started from that time he took over Barca instead of Jose who was the assistant of LVG.
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You can't be serious? :lol:



He just became one of the greatest coaches ever, being bitter about about Barca, and playing the opposite style to them?


Makes even more bizarre sense because it's failing massively right now at our club, would make sense to turn that flamboyant Barca style on and stop being bitter...........amazing analysis.......you can't be serious :lol:
 
Just take points of Liverpool and be on your way. It's the least he can do for us at this stage given the joke of a season were having. Let us at least have the solace of hurting Liverpools chances.
 
Park the bus or whatever, just make sure we halt Liverpool's momentum. One positive is that Jose's negative style always muffles Salah or whomever is their in-form forward so they don't score.
 
Flexdegea said:
You can't be serious? :lol:



He just became one of the greatest coaches ever, being bitter about about Barca, and playing the opposite style to them?


Makes even more bizarre sense because it's failing massively right now at our club, would make sense to turn that flamboyant Barca style on and stop being bitter...........amazing analysis.......you can't be serious :lol:
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Just google it. You will see plenty of articles about what happened.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
I’ve had this dreadful feeling all day that he is now going to get another year. Heard something said during the match about how Mendez came out and said Jose is happy and the board are very happy with him and realise it’s a huge project.

I know it’s Jose’s agent saying it but it sounds like a total current United thing to do, that along with appointing probably the soon to be kind of the jungle Arry Redknapp as care taker manager for the publicity.
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We won't make top 4 so we ain't keeping him.
 
Random Task said:
Yes, but fortunately, they were good enough to conquer the worst football team in the premier league.
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I don't get all the adulation honestly, we're the second costliest team in the league, there's a load of teams I expect us to win comfortably even if we were managed by Mr Bean. You have even teams like West Ham going on a 3 game winning run yet when a fecking United manager wins a game against the worst team in the league there's talk of a turnaround and 'give him credit', what fecking credit ffs
 
A good win. Hopefully, we follow it up with a result at Anfield next week.

The club needs a shake-up. I'm not even sure if there is anyone at board level these days who understands football. Both Sir Alex and Bobby are fighting ill health and not involved much. Woodwards' priority is looking after finances who very likely don't understand the intricacies of professional football to take decisive decisions. Basically, Mourinho has a free reign of running the football side of the club, which for him unlike Sir Alex is not a long-term project. He wants a quick fix and priority is leaving with his reputation and bank balance in good health. Hence all the excuses. He still lives in a hotel away from the family, basically meaning he doesn't accept Manchester to be his home.

I hope he's not allowed to buy anymore ready made players over a certain age this transfer window. Get this season out of the way and get a new team consisting of young progressive DoF and a coach and begin a rebuild giving firstly some very talented youth a chance and then exploring the market. We already have some exceptionally talented players who have not performed to their maximum due to various reasons and can become a mainstay of the club for many years. Don't let Mourinho's dislike of certain players mean they are not talented or wrong for the club.

A number of Liverpool fans have said what they would give for a Pogba as would many top teams in the world. Then there's De Gea, Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Bailly (who looked great when he first arrived). Dalot seems talented in a few games he's played. Sanchez, I'm sure has a few years left at the top. There's also a couple of very talented players coming through the youth system. This has makings of a very good team with a few tweaks under the guidance of a good coach.
 
Jojo <3 Mou said:
I stopped reading when the name calling started!

I think we can all agree as fans of United that we want the club to succeed. Disagreeing about how to achieve that success shouldn't bring such animosity and division.

Imagine your team wins 4-1 and you reaction is to be dissapointed? Yeah, you surely seem to be rooting for United.
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Image us being shiit as we are and not get disappointed and vocal about it?

Flexdegea said:
You can't be serious? :lol:



He just became one of the greatest coaches ever, being bitter about about Barca, and playing the opposite style to them?


Makes even more bizarre sense because it's failing massively right now at our club, would make sense to turn that flamboyant Barca style on and stop being bitter...........amazing analysis.......you can't be serious :lol:
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I gave it some thought and it makes some sense. You see Guardiola is touted as Mourinho's nemesis, both success and football style wise. Now we know back in 2008 when Barca was looking for a new manager to replace Rijkaard, Mourinho, who was one of the most promising and certainly most successful managers, was trying his hardest to get the job. He tried and failed because they decided not to appoint one of the best young managers of that time in Mourinho, due to his football style and they opted for a young and unproven guy who's only standalone job up to that point was Barca B. That guy was Guardiola.
 
I have to question watching Jose on the sideline all game yesterday, constantly pushing the back four up the pitch......why the sudden change ? What's motivating this behaviour ? Why the sudden injection of Herrera Rashford and Lingard to press teams ?

What's happened since the Southampton game to motivate such a change in our manager ???

The guy is transparent, he's like a six year old kid. We've never played like we played yesterday, although most of us fans and some of the players, have asked for us to do so. Then he gives an interview after the game directly pointed at one player. Who benefits from that ?

The manager of Manchester United should not be motivated by proving points to individual players. He should be motivated to be the best he can for the club, to make the players the best they can be, not throw them under the bus (Rashford, Lingard can't finish it's not my fault ffs), we should have been employing these tactics for two years now and Jose should be out on the pitch side enforcing them like he's been the last two games if the players aren't doing what's asked of them.

I look at Jose yesterday and against Arsenal and then look at him against Southampton and wonder what has suddenly motivated this guy ?

He's a very petty sad little man.
 
I must say, I'm especially fond of the way Mourinho's defenders are rallying around each other and giving each other those "pat on the back" conformational replies. It's really wholesome.
 
Fracture90 said:
I must say, I'm especially fond of the way Mourinho's defenders are rallying around each other and giving each other those "pat on the back" conformational replies. It's really wholesome.
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We must keep Jose....I can see the progress.
Can't you? :wenger:
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see a statue of Mourinho outside Anfield next week.
 
A lack of "sacked in the morning" chorus directed towards Jose from opposition fans is telling.
 
Jeppers7 said:
I have to question watching Jose on the sideline all game yesterday, constantly pushing the back four up the pitch......why the sudden change ? What's motivating this behaviour ? Why the sudden injection of Herrera Rashford and Lingard to press teams ?

What's happened since the Southampton game to motivate such a change in our manager ???

The guy is transparent, he's like a six year old kid. We've never played like we played yesterday, although most of us fans and some of the players, have asked for us to do so. Then he gives an interview after the game directly pointed at one player. Who benefits from that ?

The manager of Manchester United should not be motivated by proving points to individual players. He should be motivated to be the best he can for the club, to make the players the best they can be, not throw them under the bus (Rashford, Lingard can't finish it's not my fault ffs), we should have been employing these tactics for two years now and Jose should be out on the pitch side enforcing them like he's been the last two games if the players aren't doing what's asked of them.

I look at Jose yesterday and against Arsenal and then look at him against Southampton and wonder what has suddenly motivated this guy ?

He's a very petty sad little man.
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Yep, the sad thing is that many can't see it, choose a soft target like Fulham to get one over on the clubs record signing, then rub it in afterwards, if he put as much energy into getting us playing right, as he does making cheap shots, then maybe he wouldn't need to keep reminding everyone of his past glories.

But he is what he is, and bad football aside he is just so unlikable.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Yep, the sad thing is that many can't see it, choose a soft target like Fulham to get one over on the clubs record signing, then rub it in afterwards, if he put as much energy into getting us playing right, as he does making cheap shots, then maybe he wouldn't need to keep reminding everyone of his past glories.

But he is what he is, and bad football aside he is just so unlikable.
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Yes, this.

I keep wondering if after he feels he's proven his 'point', if he's going to revert back to his usual style?
 
Jazz said:
Yes, this.

I keep wondering if after he feels he's proven his 'point', if he's going to revert back to his usual style?
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I'd suggest once the motivation has gone his behaviour will return to normal
 
Jazz said:
Yes, this.

I keep wondering if after he feels he's proven his 'point', if he's going to revert back to his usual style?
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Of course, a tired Arsenal and useless Fulham were perfect for him to settle this score. He knows he isn't capable of doing this long term, even if the players are.
 
JohnnyKills said:
More from Castles on Pogba. Could have been dictated by Mourinho.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport...paul-pogba-should-leave-manchester-13701484?9
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I still dont think its an either or decision. Both need to go in the summer, I've reluctantly accepted Jose isnt going anywhere before March so have stopped gnashing my teeth over it. But both need to go.

As somebody above has said, there are a lot of prem teams who would/could accomodate Pogba, I wouldnt mind us letting him go to another prem team on the proviso that we get one/two of their top players in exchange.
 
RedNed77 said:
I still dont think its an either or decision. Both need to go in the summer, I've reluctantly accepted Jose isnt going anywhere before March so have stopped gnashing my teeth over it. But both need to go.

As somebody above has said, there are a lot of prem teams who would/could accomodate Pogba, I wouldnt mind us letting him go to another prem team on the proviso that we get one/two of their top players in exchange.
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Maybe wait a season to see how PP performs under a different manager(hopefully) before letting him go. I understand the professionalism argument, but at the same time it is understandable that Pogba voiced his concern over playing style and the manager as it clearly was/is not working. Remember that it was JM who started throwing players under the bus, and that loyalty goes both ways.
 
Even if Pogba is the issue (and I'm not saying he is), either way you look at it, it's on Mourinho.

He obviously didn't do good enough job on profiling Pogba as a player/personality before asking Woodward to get him and he also failed to get his star signing to perform.

That should be enough for Mourinho to be sacked.
 
This what happens when you are over reliant on one player and that player now holds power. Jose is the manager and Pogba should be doing everything for the badge and the fans anyway. Pogba has ridiculous talent but he is part of the problem.
 
Rajma said:
He can print all the shite in the world but it won’t change the fact that next week we’ll be 11 points of the top 4 in DECEMBER and probably have boosted scousers quest to the title.
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Im JoseOut but apart from the city game, we were supposed to lose vs chelsea and vs arsenal and what happened? The players will kill to win a game like that
 
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