Matic to be dropped next game? Jose did same with Lukaku. Didn't drop him till the press picked up on it. Not even confident in his own decisions anymore.
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Matic to be dropped next game? Jose did same with Lukaku. Didn't drop him till the press picked up on it. Not even confident in his own decisions anymore.
Those stats, and still he has his daft loyalists posting tonnes of posts in here every day defending him, no matter what 
Ah fair enough thanks, one horrible stat
Those stats, and still he has his daft loyalists posting tonnes of posts in here every day defending him, no matter what
One of the things that makes me laugh is the length they'll go to defend him
I think he's neglecting Andreas while clearly being reluctant to drop Matic despite him being diabolical.- Jose bangwagon - lets shite on Andreas
Or making out like Martial is largely down to him, when he'd of probably got traded to Chelsea or Inter if he had his way.
Think Andreas will be our version of Lukaku or Debruyne. Probably won't reach those heights but if given a chance could of been a valuable player.
I’ve noticed that too. If he can’t even back his own judgment any more then he really is a dead man walking.
This clown and Sanchez were talking about the club needing to buy more experienced players, then went on to crap the bed playing like pensioners.
Yup, it's bizarre how they feel vindicated to slag off certain payers all in the name of exonerating Jose of any blame.
He will f..ck off come summer, my main concern is that some of our important players decide to leave because of the chaos we are in. Com'on Eddy, pull that flippin' trigger.
Imagine slagging off everyone apart from the manager who is with these players daily, sending them out with his tactics. In the 3rd year now .It's shameful actuallyThose stats, and still he has his daft loyalists posting tonnes of posts in here every day defending him, no matter what
Preemptively dismissing every promising youngster is a classic staple in the playbook of Jose defenders. If they sense the player can be used to attack Jose they slag him. Stuff like that is when it starts feeling like a cult
I've been noticing this for some time now. When he started with the old "well you wanted him in the team, and looked what happened" nonsense. It always seemed odd to me that he would take any notice of what he press/fans wanted. If you're making decisions based on that, then you must be second guessing yourself.
I reckon next summer might finally be the transfer window De Gea leaves. The contract situation is dragging out and it's worrying me.
lool. Mybad OAP.
Where’s all the loyalists today? They were out in force after the Juve game.
I think the problems at United are both Jose and the Board's fault and I can see both points of view but the signing of Matic and the way he plays regardless of form is one of the most annoying parts of this whole saga. A midfield of Pogba, Herrera and Fred just seems the natural way to go if we want to press teams more and play at a quicker tempo. Yes, I know, Herrera didn't cover himself in glory with his passing yesterday but he was good the two seasons ago as the deepest player.
Didn't you hear? Mourinho doesn't care about stats so they don't matter.Those stats, and still he has his daft loyalists posting tonnes of posts in here every day defending him, no matter what
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Am leaning towards showing him the exit door but whoever comes in will have the same problems, average overrated players and a clueless board!
There's more than one?
I think there’s four proper nutters.
Even if we get rid of Mourinho we'll mess up bringing another manager in unfortunately.
The core of the squad needs replacing.
The core of the squad needs replacing.
But importantly, the new manager will come in with low expectations and much needed time to assess the squad for next season. That was the same mistake we did with Moyes and LVG and we are likely to do it with Jose. and before you know it, a new manager comes in and wants to assess our sqaud in the summer and we are left with playing smalling and Jones at centre back again next August.
I think hindsight is a good thing. Now I feel that the Board should have kept LVG even though he did not make the CL. Who would think that Jose would mess things up worse than LVG? Jose was known for instant success and in that he did not deliver as in the past but failed miserably.
There is no other option but to get rid of him and appoint a long term successor even if that manager had to rebuild. Giving Moyes time was not the answer.
There is no other option but to get rid of him and appoint a long term successor even if that manager had to rebuild. Giving Moyes time was not the answer.
maybe i missed it, but dont remember anyone defending matic's performances.Those stats, and still he has his daft loyalists posting tonnes of posts in here every day defending him, no matter what
Only question would be who to play, with Fellaini probably giving the best performance I can think of in the role. Herrra is also an option though lost the ball too easily against citeh. i personslly dont see fred and Pereira as options to sit in front of our poor defence
We might not compete with City, but is there a chance we might have a better squad than Brighton, West Ham, Newcastle?
Where’s that fella in the grim reaper costume?
Put his signal in the sky!
Put his signal in the sky!
Buying Matic was idiocy but that post was more about Mourinho in general.
Mourinho acolytes will continue to lap up his nonsense but everyone else has grown tired of this transparent tripe.
The managers of the other top 6 sides play to the strengths of their respective teams whereas Mourinho approaches games with the mindset of a manager in a relegation battle. Defend at all costs, have a go for 15 minutes and hope for the best. He's sucking the life out of football.
The managers of the other top 6 sides play to the strengths of their respective teams whereas Mourinho approaches games with the mindset of a manager in a relegation battle. Defend at all costs, have a go for 15 minutes and hope for the best. He's sucking the life out of football.
If Guardiola was the coach of this United team he would not win anything.
Our biggest problem is our recruitment. It is abysmal. It was shocking to see our team sheet next to City's. How can we have that 11 on paper after spending 700 million?! How is that we've spent 70 million on a striker that cant even control the ball?!
Till we resolve this, we will never win anything.
The only way forward is to have a DOF, focused on bringing in technical and top quality players, irrespective of who the manager is.
There is a small pool of top quality, experienced players. Buy them no matter what it takes. If the coach cannot bring the best out of them, get rid of him. We cannot afford to have more Lukaku, Schneiderlin kind of signings. No more average players. We need to sign the best players, specialists for their positions and irrespective of their re-sale value.
We have been sleeping while the likes of Bernado, Mendy, Jorginho, Mahrez, Douglas Costa, Cancelo, Richarlison, Rodri, Arthur, Bonucci - to name a few - have been transferred , some of them for cut-price deals. Any of them would walk into our side and make it better.
This is not Mourinho's fault despite all his recent failures as a coach.
Woodward and our scouting department need to wake up before its too late. We are Man Utd. One of the biggest and most profitable clubs in the world.
At the moment it seems that everyone running the club is content at being mediocre or incompetent.
Our biggest problem is our recruitment. It is abysmal. It was shocking to see our team sheet next to City's. How can we have that 11 on paper after spending 700 million?! How is that we've spent 70 million on a striker that cant even control the ball?!
Till we resolve this, we will never win anything.
The only way forward is to have a DOF, focused on bringing in technical and top quality players, irrespective of who the manager is.
There is a small pool of top quality, experienced players. Buy them no matter what it takes. If the coach cannot bring the best out of them, get rid of him. We cannot afford to have more Lukaku, Schneiderlin kind of signings. No more average players. We need to sign the best players, specialists for their positions and irrespective of their re-sale value.
We have been sleeping while the likes of Bernado, Mendy, Jorginho, Mahrez, Douglas Costa, Cancelo, Richarlison, Rodri, Arthur, Bonucci - to name a few - have been transferred , some of them for cut-price deals. Any of them would walk into our side and make it better.
This is not Mourinho's fault despite all his recent failures as a coach.
Woodward and our scouting department need to wake up before its too late. We are Man Utd. One of the biggest and most profitable clubs in the world.
At the moment it seems that everyone running the club is content at being mediocre or incompetent.
Lets give it a go shall we. Considering Guardiola actually know's the type of players he wants:
------------------------De Gea----------------
---Walker------Lindelof-----Umtiti-----Shaw
----------------------Jorginho--------------------
--------------Fred--------------Pogba---------
---Mhikitaryan----------------------Martial----
----------------------Sanchez------------
Subs:
Periera
Valencia
Jones
Rashford
Bernado
I think they would have done alright. Calculate that team if you want £££
So let me get this right, the Jose in crowd believes if we had bought Dier, Willian, Perisic and Maguire we'd be competing for the title? or we'd be more than plucky underdogs against City?
The senior management can't go around signing pyers the manager doesnt have on his infamous 'list'.
The board does not build the squad, they support the manager and his staff. It's always been like this for us, thats why we dont use a DOF, otherwise there'd be even more conflicts with the managers we bring in. It's the manager's job to build or rebuild the squad and with everyone on the list aged 29+ i'm not impressed and neither was Woody.
I agree Mourinho is not solely to blame on transfers, but I’m pretty sure he had a major input on who we bought.
I think you're missing the point. I said he wouldnt have won anything with our current team.
He bought 7 players that play in the first 11 regularly. And all of those are quality players.
I voted for Jose out and im not a fan of his football philosophy. But even i know that if Jose gets the players he wants he's a good enough coach to challenge for the title and not be languishing at 8th place.
Shall we wait and see..
Yeah i agree. Matic is an example of his outdated ideas. But he's still a very good coach. Thats why we need a good DOF who can sign the right kind of players, irrespective of whether Jose stays or not. We need people with a common football vision. It seems we are just aimlessly drifting with no solid plan on how to suceed.
He's got the players he wants. So whats the point? Lukaku, Pogba, Lindelof, Bailly, Fred, Dalot, Matic, Alexis That's 8 players he can put in an 11 man team if he would like. But for some reason he has a real nak of making players look crap.
the management has vetoed many signings the manager has on his list. if they have that kind of decision making powers then i imagine then they can go for signings the manager doesnt have on his list too.
I do not mean to be rude, but this feels like a terminal cancer, in that it does not matter what you do, you will die. Mourinho may have a good win here and there, but i think it is over. The style is just horrible to say the least. City were miles better to watch than us yesterday. The fluidity of their play was a different class to us.
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