The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

  • Total voters
    2,977
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For the first time since this poll started, he is under 70% for firing him. Is this because people are changing their minds and had knee jerk reactions before, or are new people voting?? My guess is the first option. I'm still in the "Mourinho out" camp...
 
Whoever replaced SAF was almost certainly going to fail initially, you could have safely put seriously good money on it, plus the game is littered with Managers and players turning it around after slow/poor starts, what's to say he(Moyes)wouldn't have ?

And as for knowing, I don't, but then I haven't posted that he would have go it right.
Of course. Poor Moyes. The victim of circumstance as his future after United has proven.

Kepe burying your head under the sand. The man was nowhere near good enough for Manchester United.
 
He wasn’t a firefighter at Real Sociedad and was pretty rubbish there. West Ham fans like us just hated his boring clueless tactics and Sunderland he managed to treat United like Everton and give us decent money for our surplus players.

He’s not up to the job of a big club, that’s pretty much clear. I doubt anyone would have blickered an eyelid if he replaced Wenger. Arsenal fan Tv would be booming right now though.

I don't know what they call it in Spain, but he didn't get the job because they were flying high in the League did he, and as for West Ham, yeah a lot of their fans didn't want him, which is strange because if he'd gone there straight from Everton they'd have thought they'd won the Lottery, anyhow, by the end he(Moyes)had turned them around completely and they were disgusted with the Board when he was sacked.

Oh, so Everton where he was for a decade and did a bloody good job, traditionally one of the big five in England isn't a big club ?
 
Of course. Poor Moyes. The victim of circumstance as his future after United has proven.

Kepe burying your head under the sand. The man was nowhere near good enough for Manchester United.

Are you suggesting SAF was an idiot then when he recommended him to the Board, or are you one of those that thought SAF knew he'd fail and was protecting his Legacy ?

Anywho, back to the Why is Mourinho still our Manager when it's obvious he's not up to the job ? thread
 
Gary Neville did and we all saw how that turned out.

There's a gulf of class between Neville and Giggs. Giggs and Scholes are two of SAFs most mentored players. You have to take risks sometimes. Of course, Neville was a failure. Even experienced winner Mourinho has been a failure. You can't always predict
 
Of course. Poor Moyes. The victim of circumstance as his future after United has proven.

Kepe burying your head under the sand. The man was nowhere near good enough for Manchester United.

Moyes could have been good. Turns out he wasn't. These things aren't so black and white. There was reason to believe Moyes could have been a success but he was missing a few ingredient. You can't find out about all those things until you get the job though.
 
There's a gulf of class between Neville and Giggs. Giggs and Scholes are two of SAFs most mentored players. You have to take risks sometimes. Of course, Neville was a failure. Even experienced winner Mourinho has been a failure. You can't always predict

There was a gulf between them as players but that doesn't mean much for management. Henry was an infinitely greater player than Mourinho and all that.

None of the ex-united players have been good (enough) managers either.
 
There was a gulf between them as players but that doesn't mean much for management. Henry was an infinitely greater player than Mourinho and all that.

None of the ex-united players have been good (enough) managers either.

You mean good enough for United? Maybe not but they've been good/decent managers in general.
 
We have played more attacking football this season and he noted we were too defensive last season. It looks like he's actually trying to win games while attacking. It's just very unfortunate for him that both our defenders and attackers are kind of shite.

There isn't any managers in the world who are gonna keep a clean sheet every game with our lot, regardless of how they set up.

Also there isn't any manager in the world that could play free flowing high scoring football with our attackers, again, regardless of set up.

He is almost winning me back to ''maybe he needs more time'' from an adamant ''No'' vote. I want him here until the summer regardless.
 
We have played more attacking football this season and he noted we were too defensive last season. It looks like he's actually trying to win games while attacking. It's just very unfortunate for him that both our defenders and attackers are kind of shite.

There isn't any managers in the world who are gonna keep a clean sheet every game with our lot, regardless of how they set up.

Also there isn't any manager in the world that could play free flowing high scoring football with our attackers, again, regardless of set up.

He is almost winning me back to ''maybe he needs more time'' from an adamant ''No'' vote. I want him here until the summer regardless.

Very unfortunate? Isn't this his team for which he's had like what 5 transfer markets and millions of pounds to spend on? Who told him to waste money on Mikhi, Lukaku and Sanchez?
 
Very unfortunate? Isn't this his team for which he's had like what 5 transfer markets and millions of pounds to spend on? Who told him to waste money on Mikhi, Lukaku and Sanchez?

Valid point.
 
Moyes could have been good. Turns out he wasn't. These things aren't so black and white. There was reason to believe Moyes could have been a success but he was missing a few ingredient. You can't find out about all those things until you get the job though.
I don't think he could have been. Many saw his mediocrity from miles away. We used to think this was some sort of joke candidate people used to like putting forth for the sake of speculation. And many of us did try to convince ourselves that he possibly would be alright. But he just wasn't fit for this football club. The ingredient he was missing was management ability.
 
Are you suggesting SAF was an idiot then when he recommended him to the Board, or are you one of those that thought SAF knew he'd fail and was protecting his Legacy ?

Anywho, back to the Why is Mourinho still our Manager when it's obvious he's not up to the job ? thread
Do you have to be an idiot to make mistakes? Are geniuses infallible?

Agreed on the last bit. I have no idea really. I am open to giving him a chance to turn it around but as things stand I definitely do not believe that he's the right man for the job.
 
I don't think he could have been. Many saw his mediocrity from miles away. We used to think this was some sort of joke candidate people used to like putting forth for the sake of speculation. And many of us did try to convince ourselves that he possibly would be alright. But he just wasn't fit for this football club. The ingredient he was missing was management ability.

No he just couldn’t step up to a bigger club. Too much pressure and couldn’t keep his composure. He failed in the transfer market as well by rushing and/or not understanding how to sign big players fast enough.

Many mistakes but just because you’re a good top 5 manager doesn’t mean you’re bound to fail. Just happens to be Moyes wasn’t good enough
 
Based on the pattern of poll results after each game, I predict the following results just before the City game (this is for the Mou out vote):

1) if we win - 66.5%
2) if we draw - 68.5 %
3) narrow defeat - 70.5%
4) heavy defeat - 73%

:lol:
 
No he just couldn’t step up to a bigger club. Too much pressure and couldn’t keep his composure. He failed in the transfer market as well by rushing and/or not understanding how to sign big players fast enough.

Many mistakes but just because you’re a good top 5 manager doesn’t mean you’re bound to fail. Just happens to be Moyes wasn’t good enough
Yes he wasn't good enough and was bound to fail. He was fine for Everton but not for United.
 
They're actually trying to play a bit tonight. Committing players forward yet the balance looks right.

What's that about? He he changed? :confused:
 
They're actually trying to play a bit tonight. Committing players forward yet the balance looks right.

What's that about? He he changed? :confused:

Maureen’s stopped moaning. Maybe he’ll make a sub too. Happy for the boys tonight. Hopefully we can get something out of this.
 
Just defend defend defend, we are completely toothless, crap, Juventus have us pinned, it's like we are the ones top of the group and 1-0 up. It's pure scared garbage.
 
Definitely won some points with that ear cupping. Winning against Juve ain't so bad either.
 
I dont get why he needs to be overly provocative though, has the man lost all his class?

Should prioritize to go and embrace his players and focus on their success instead of being a total dick against the opponents.
 
Subs won us the game. Perfect European away performance against the best team in Europe.
 
The team are still fighting. Whether they are doing it for the manager or not I don't know. But they haven't given up and that's a good sign whatever happens with Mourinho.
 
Masterclass! What he did in the end is just low though, but who cares. No need to do that when winning, especially when he cried to Conte about certain things two years ago.
 
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