Why is 5 the barometer and not 4?
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I never said it was the barometer for anything.
4 would certainly reflect better on United to be fair.
we've gone below 70% again? So who changed their votes? Because I haven't seen anything different in these games to what we've seen in the past 18 months. Decent in patches but very open and conceding chances, could've been 3/4 goals behind again and were lucky to be still in the game at the weekend.
Every win we have seems like a rescue job. When will the team put together a 90 minutes peformance?
Every win we have seems like a rescue job. When will the team put together a 90 minutes peformance?
i do not enjoy watching heavily lopsided matches in any sport.
You mean that you won't enjoy united scoring 5 or 6 goals in a match just because it becomes lopsided? What the actual feck?
A few lucky results on the bounce does not change anything for me. I lost all faith in Jose last year when he unceremoniously dropped Martial for Sanchez who had just been scoring winners for us at Everton & Burnley. That's when I knew he wasn't the man for the job.
3 years in and I still don't know what Jose's plan is for this team, he probably doesn't know either as it seems to change from one week to the next. Every week I see no real evidence of what he's got us working on in training.
I believe he's living on his past reputation at this point. Definitely.
Please answer me this, why does every team we come up against look better organised/coached than we are?
We only start to look half decent when the initial plan gets thrown out the window and we just go for it instead.
Don't you think that's strange?
We rely way too much on individual brilliance to bail us out. Thankfully Martial is scoring at an absurd rate atm, something like 5 goals out of 8 shots? That's not sustainable at all. Then what?
Our strikers feed on absolute scraps, our chance creation is the lowest of the top 6.
De Gea isn't in superhuman form like last year to paper over the cracks and suddenly the defense is getting shown up for not being good enough. (I don't believe they're this bad, but who can blame them when their confidence has been totally shot to bits by their own manager).
So we can't attack, can't defend, can't press, aren't a physical team so what the hell is he actually doing?
I just don't see it.
That's before we get onto his destructive & classless behaviour when he gets scrutinised in the press since he's been here.
As long as he's still in charge I'll continue to support the team but i have zero faith that he's the man to take us back to the top.
3 years in and I still don't know what Jose's plan is for this team, he probably doesn't know either as it seems to change from one week to the next. Every week I see no real evidence of what he's got us working on in training.
I believe he's living on his past reputation at this point. Definitely.
Please answer me this, why does every team we come up against look better organised/coached than we are?
We only start to look half decent when the initial plan gets thrown out the window and we just go for it instead.
Don't you think that's strange?
We rely way too much on individual brilliance to bail us out. Thankfully Martial is scoring at an absurd rate atm, something like 5 goals out of 8 shots? That's not sustainable at all. Then what?
Our strikers feed on absolute scraps, our chance creation is the lowest of the top 6.
De Gea isn't in superhuman form like last year to paper over the cracks and suddenly the defense is getting shown up for not being good enough. (I don't believe they're this bad, but who can blame them when their confidence has been totally shot to bits by their own manager).
So we can't attack, can't defend, can't press, aren't a physical team so what the hell is he actually doing?
I just don't see it.
That's before we get onto his destructive & classless behaviour when he gets scrutinised in the press since he's been here.
As long as he's still in charge I'll continue to support the team but i have zero faith that he's the man to take us back to the top.
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Nothing wrong with that. Some people fancy a tight match. Some people fancy a drubbing. Each to his own.
Well its difficult for me to fathom that but well, its people's choice.
I would love to see a drubbing these days. 6 years and counting.
Rather than attributing it incorrectly to a tactical curiousity or desire to give others time, the lack of "piling it on" really stems from two things - A) An inability to build a team capable of doing so and B) A defensive/cautious mindset. Every manager would rather win 6-0 than 2-0, that much is obvious, and both of those points apply to our current manager. He is struggling to builf a high quality cohesive football team at Manchester United, and isn't an attacking manager anyway.
As a personal preference you may like whatever you do of course. But I completely disagree. I want United to do as well as possible and within a single game, that relates to winning as convincingly as possible.
Any fan that says he'd rather see us win 2-0/2-1 than 4/5/6 is either a liar or there's something seriously wrong with them.
this thread has hit rock bottom again. What sort of supporter wants narrow wins over dismantling teams? I've seen some bizarre opinions on here, but thats a bloody new and weird one.
I can understand not wanting to watch one sided sporting events when you're a neutral, but surely you want your team to be the best?
I can understand not wanting to watch one sided sporting events when you're a neutral, but surely you want your team to be the best?
This thread has hit farcical status. The Jose-in brigade have sunk to all new levels: Oh but I hate the goals, so I do 
Mourinho has actually made fans hate us scoring eh y'know goals, the things that win matches, trophies etc. Fun times.
Give me a narrow 2-1 win over Southampton rather than a thoroughly entertaining 6-1 win any day of the week. Goals are overrated and the new hipster thing.
Does this mean some Utd fans on here cheer when we miss chances? Wouldn't want to get too far ahead of our opponents, that would be boring.
Jose actually said it last season. Jose makes the excuses, his fans only rationalise themThis thread has hit farcical status. The Jose-in brigade have sunk to all new levels: Oh but I hate the goals, so I do
I see your point, but we all know that the club will go on the safer route, unfortunately.
Link please?
The 7-1 win against Roma was probably the most enjoyable 90 minutes of football in my almost 40 years watching Manchester United.
There’s been better moments but for sustained pleasure I would struggle to think of a game that I enjoyed more (8-2 against Arsenal would come close tbf).
Blows my mind that anyone could have been watching that thinking “Jaysus, lads, take the foot off the gas, ffs! Nobody wants to see the opposition get humiliated
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There’s been better moments but for sustained pleasure I would struggle to think of a game that I enjoyed more (8-2 against Arsenal would come close tbf).
Blows my mind that anyone could have been watching that thinking “Jaysus, lads, take the foot off the gas, ffs! Nobody wants to see the opposition get humiliated
“I have no problem with people that want him stay - even though they appear to have a problem with people that want him to go - but dear god, come up with some actual reasons as to why he should stay. Some of the guff in here is actually parody-esque.
The 7-1 win against Roma was probably the most enjoyable 90 minutes of football in my almost 40 years watching Manchester United.
There’s been better moments but for sustained pleasure I would struggle to think of a game that I enjoyed more (8-2 against Arsenal would come close tbf).
Blows my mind that anyone could have been watching that thinking “Jaysus, lads, take the foot off the gas, ffs! Nobody wants to see the opposition get humiliated
That match made me sick to the stomach. Imagine how those poor Roma players felt! Have you not got a shred of empathy in you?
Nearly turned my back on the football that night, the pure barbarity of it.....
He's doing the usual deflection.
I have absolutely no doubt that he would rather win a game by 6 than by 1 or 2.
Well naturally I haven't read the last couple of pages and am basing this on not very much but I'm assuming that the point is that we'd prefer to watch one of those classics we used to have against Arsenal, two perfectly matched titans, with us coming out the right ends of a 2-1 scoreline after a battle fit for kings rather than 5-0 stroll in the park against Huddersfield?
Just for the record, I'm quite fond of goals.
Just for the record, I'm quite fond of goals.
"I still don't understand these words of 'entertaining'," he told a news conference. "You think 6-0 is entertaining? I don't think so.
"I think entertaining is emotion until the end, open result until the end, everybody on their seats until the end, both dugouts nervous and tense with the unpredictability of the result.
"That, for me as a football lover, that's entertaining. So, I think it's going to be entertaining."
He might be talking as a neutral.
Otherwise, it's just another example what he's not a good fit for this club.
A Manchester United manager should always try to get his team score as many goals as possible.
As a neutral, yeah. Those are way more entertaining.
When it's your own team a big win is entertaining, though. I mean, a last minute winner like O'shea against Liverpool or Scholes/Owen against City is amazing, but a 6-0 win would be just as amazing. Like the games @Pogue Mahone mentioned above along with the 6-1 Yorke special against Arsenal, the 4-0 against Liverpool in 02-03, etc.
He's just incapable of it.
To be clear, we are talking about 5+ goal margins i.e 5-0, 6-0, 8-1 etc
You might enjoy it, I dont - to each his own
Did a quick count of their seasons under Pep (https://www.skysports.com/manchester-city-results/2016-17) and counted 16 scores with 5 or more for them in that time alone (not +5 GD, mind).
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The context of the interview was when he was getting stick towards the end of last season for our boring football. He was talking about us, not only as a neutral.
Those quotes sound like he was talking about a specific game, which was about to happen.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to watch competitive games, absolutely nothing. Embarrassing few pages.
Your argument is flawed given that if your team was not capable, you would not have overwhelmed the opposition so easily in the first place. Also managers withdrawing their starting attackers and giving others attacking players a run out is not evidence of a defensive mindset.
Its funny how people like you claim Mourinho is not an attacking manager, when his 2009/10 Inter held the record for most goals scored in serie A season for years, while his Madrid team still holds the record for most goals scored in la liga
If that is what makes your day - great!
You didn't enjoy the 8-2 win against arsenal? Are you sure
My choices would be from 1999 and would be joint between the 2-1 FA semis win over arsenal with the giggs goal playing with 10-men and the CL final 2-1 win over bayern.The 7-1 win against Roma was probably the most enjoyable 90 minutes of football in my almost 40 years watching Manchester United.
There’s been better moments but for sustained pleasure I would struggle to think of a game that I enjoyed more (8-2 against Arsenal would come close tbf).
Blows my mind that anyone could have been watching that thinking “Jaysus, lads, take the foot off the gas, ffs! Nobody wants to see the opposition get humiliated
The Roma match I barely remember and would not evn think of rewatching it.
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