The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%

  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%

  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

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My view of Mourinho is very simple.

Managing United is a very special role, a plum role that is probably the most sought after in the world. With our history, and our boards history of giving managers time too, we aren't trigger happy like Real Madrid. Therefore it is a role very few people have held, and will hold.

With this in mind, managing this club has to be a privilege, it has to be a source of pride and the manager has to be invested. His demeanour, attitude and general sullenness show this isn't the case, and that he is not interested in the big picture beyond enhancing his own reputation. He has been her over 2 years and "lives" in a hotel. He hasn't tried to settle in or around our great city, and that should also be a concern.

For me, he shouldn't be manager because it is clear he doesn't understand how lucky he is to be the manager of this club, and how much of a privilege it is.

This opinion is independent of results it should be said, but a general rule for whether someone is a good fit. I believe the problems we face on and off the pitch are related to the issues I have, which is really frustrating, and increases my belief he should go. But even if we were winning, I'd still hold the opinion. If Mourinho realised tomorrow his mistake, suddenly had a epiphany and realised, yes I want to be here, yes I want to be manager for a long time, yes I want to move my family, great! I'd change my opinion. But that's not going to happen, because he's not invested in the long term. I find that sad, he really has to go for that reason.
 
Anyone who thinks he'll be gone by Christmas doesn't understand how United operates and has operated historically and frankly doesn't have a clue. We'd have to be near the relegation zone around then for that to happen. He'll be here at least until the end of the season.

I say see where we are in January and make up for the shitty recent window then if we are doing at least alright/OK.
 
Bojan11 said:
Do what all night?

You getting giddy because we pressed for 30 mins. How many saves did the Spurs goalkeeper make? You forgot we could have had a penalty conceded and every long ball in the box we struggled to deal with.

And Spurs in the second half after going 2-0 ahead decided to sit back, so of course we’d have more shooting chances. But we never looked threatening once. Besides the Alderweireld challenge on Lingard, I don’t recall Spurs scrambling in defence. They were in complete control.

You call that a good performance just shows how bad our standards have dropped by some of our fans. If Moyes had served that shit, I’m sure you’d be calling for his head.
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Only reason we nearly gave away a penalty is cos Jones is slow and a liability at the back with his clumsy and desperate defending.

Main reason we gave away that first goal was because Jones is not good enough in the air.
 
SpyLuke10 said:
Anyone who thinks he'll be gone by Christmas doesn't understand how United operates and has operated historically and frankly doesn't have a clue. We'd have to be near the relegation zone around then for that to happen. He'll be here at least until the end of the season.

I say see where we are in January and make up for the shitty recent window then if we are doing at least alright/OK.
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Cause we are rotten at the top. They dont really care whether we win the PL or CL, it's all about the least risky scenario that will ensure our profits AKA CL football. Hence they won't fire him until it's imploded and too late.

It's clear with Mou that his top gear is still not good enough. Sad part is he doesn't even admit it, always excuses, blaming players, media, transfer market. You know if I had all the perfect conditions I'd be a great United Manager too. But life doesn't work that way.

Job of a manager is to create a system to bring out the best in his players. Instead somehow all our players have somehow turned to shit, we have had a top 3 defensive side for 2 yrs but somehow all those defenders were terrible, and half of them were purchased by Mou himself, our two best young players are disgruntled and linked to leaving the club.

Clearly looks like we are on the right path and need more faith... I'd have given Moyes or LVG more faith. We are seeing dire stuff right now and he's going to hang on based on solely his reputation. Learn from Chelsea/RM, he's toxic to our long term health, and if he isn't delivering short term results kick him out
 
The only question mark on Jose is how good does he think we are - and what do we need to do to get back to the top. Else it's a big job. We did brilliant last season UP until bringing in Sanchez and the Savilla games which hurt us badly in addition to the cup final defeat. This season, has started badly but Jose going to the fans and generating that feeling might be an inspired thing. If he hadn't have done that or just walked off down the tunnel? If he never shook the Spurs managers hand - people would be all over that but we know he's a different mentality. By showing defiance, he show players the right mentality. You don't cower. You don't hide. You grow up. Because right now the players have let the supporters down. if Brighton out fight you and out play you then you are nothing. If you show the same heart and determination every game...not just some....then there is always a chance your quality will overcome anything. But you have to fight. So that moment could underline anything. We start afresh. Our season starts now. If you lose, let it be to big teams. Great teams....not teams we should be beating ...and once we get back to basics then we can clear our minds and challenge again. Cause it's not just about beating spurs and the like. It's about winning titles.
 
Forget competing with City who have spent more. How about not getting trounced by Spurs who've spent significantly less? How about figure out your consistent first XI at least by the 3rd year ? Isn't it part of the managers job to get the most out of the players he has at his disposal. With how many would you say Jose has been able to achieve that ?
 
I'm glad there is a Mourinho in thread, some of the negativity on these forums is astounding. Jose has won a heap of trophies and for those that say that's in the past, he's done it at United as well and you finished a comfortable second last season, yet much of the media and posters here act like relegation is possibility.

Klopp and Poch on the other hand who have won nothing yet are portrayed as continual winners. I don't blame Jose for his 3 premierships comment, it must be incredibly frustrating to be written off with a record like his.

I am a Brighton fan and I love Chris Hughton, but if he left for any reason to get a manager with even half of Jose's CV would be massive. It's easy when you are so used to success (and deserved success) as Utd fans must be, to go totally overboard when things don't go right. But again you finished second last season, this season you've had one very dodgy game against us and then shown a really positive first half display against Spurs, despite the result, now you have a decent run of games to put things right and (Pep aside) there's no one better than Jose to make that happen.

It's all about perspective and context, you used to have one of the best managers and teams in the world, you still do - but others have improved alot. If ever there was a time to get behind the team and support them it is now rather than believe the crap peddled in the papers that Jose is clueless and must go as many here seem to think.
 
Many on Redcafe say that the media and pundits are all scousers and they all have an agenda to get rid of Mourinho. Surely, if he is as shit as they claim, they would want him to stay.
 
marukomu said:
Many on Redcafe say that the media and pundits are all scousers and they all have an agenda to get rid of Mourinho. Surely, if he is as shit as they claim, they would want him to stay.
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It's not about wanting Utd to be sh*t, it's about click bait and selling papers, if Jose were sacked sales and clicks would rocket, then think of all the column inches they could flog over who comes next etc
 
Pscholes18 said:
He needs to go but not after 3 matches.
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Yeah, and replace him with whom? You really think Zidane is waiting in the wings with dreams of turning Chris Smalling and Phil Jones into world class CBs? If he's masochistic enough to want to deal with our current owners, then his obvious mental issues should preclude him from the job.
 
Imagine if Pep or Zidane were in charge. I don't see different results.

Imagine if Messi or Mbappe along with Maguire were playing in Man Utd Red. I see different results.

Jose is not a bad jockey. He's just riding a slow horse.
 
nainaisson said:
Yeah, and replace him with whom? You really think Zidane is waiting in the wings with dreams of turning Chris Smalling and Phil Jones into world class CBs? If he's masochistic enough to want to deal with our current owners, then his obvious mental issues should preclude him from the job.
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I don't know anymore, skmeone who can turn us into a attacking side with a decent defense.
 
Laurentiu amt said:
I'm one of the ones that jumped on the Jose out bandwagon after the game. Most of us will do that in the heat of the moment, that's obvious.

The 1st half was of huge promise for the future, however, I don't understand part of his selection, that's the 1st thing that feks with my mind.(And others, like buying 2 absolutely shite center backs for 30 mil each, but let's get over this part). I'll go easy on him:

1.
- He plays Pogba on the right, basically limiting his offensive output and making it almost impossible for him to shoot at goal. IT;s hard for a right footed player to shoot from that right side CM position; Not only he plays him on the right, he plays him against Delli if I'm not mistaken a very quick and mobile player (that feked behind Pogs back the whole game)
- He plays Pogs on the right, on the side he knows he'd need to cover the worst player in our back 3/5 (Tony, and yes, he was the worst, not the CB"s)
- He plays Fred on the left, limiting his ability to shoot and go forward (Yes, it might be considered that he would support the Shaw lane better, as he's better than Pogs with the ball, but hey, he played vs Dembele at times)

At times, both Pogs and Fred were out of position because they don't normally play there and they tried to switch sides, that feked us heavily in the 2nd half in moments of defending.
Once they switched sides tho, Fred created some things on the right, Paul had some decent shite on the left.

2.
- He plays Matic after an injury. What was it going to happen in the 2nd half with a player that just came back from injury, no pre season, nothing? The guy could barely run after 30 minutes and in the 2nd half he had one of the worst performances I've seen in a United shirt. Well change the guy at half time FFS.
- You don't play with a slow shielding CM against a very good offensive team. Look at Barca when they play very attacking teams, Sergio goes up with the other midfielders and they defend in a line.
At times, Matic was trying to come out and intercept a ball, or trying to move up along the lines of Paul and Fred. When he did that, Kane dropped as a 10, Eriksen moved up and Alli did the same. Our midfield was absolutely feked because of him stepping forward in the worst timed moments

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- You play Ander at CB trying to have one ball playing CB.
- Who the fek plays a CM at the right side of the 3CB pairing, one the same feking time with Tony Valencia, one of our worst players when speaking about defensive tactical discipline?

4. You had the Young experiment last game, now you come with a similar player at RB, one that can't defend, can't attack if his life would depend on. What do you expect to happen on that right flank? A right flank that has Paul Pogba as cover, naturally a very bad player at defending.

I'll stop here and I won't even start about playing Lukaku against arguably the best CB pairing in the league, a player that can't feking stop a ball, can't dribble, can't head the ball, can't hold it. The only thing he can do is score those feking hard ones and cross a ball, other than that, in a system that doesn't rely on counter attacking, he's utter useless. Having a lampost upfront against 2 very technical CB's is absolute suicide. (proven by the fact that, at times, Lukaku was a ball bouncer between them)

While I agree that we lost due to a few defensive mistakes and that typing here is easier than coaching Man United, something's off with Jose. He was one of the most brilliant tacticians in the world and his teams would always turn a corner after half time. I mean, you have one CM at RCB playing bad(and yellow carded), one RB playing bad, one CF playing bad, one DCM that was barely running, well change the fecking setup at half time man.

A few years back he had balls to change anyone in the lineup that was not playing good, anyone at any given minute. He seems too soft now. He still has that nastiness about him, but not that decisive nastiness and that's just sad for a Man Utd manager.

He can still turn it around though, and even if I don't rate the guy, for the sake of the club, we should still back him. (and get rid of feking half the team in the winter/summer) . To turn it around tho, he needs to be the usual feking pest that he was back in the day and put the hammer down on these players. (it worked with Shaw, it might work with a few more)
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Decent post with Good Insight. But number of discrepancies. Keeping in mind that despite all these deficiencies you mentioned, it was United that did extremely well in the first 39 mins (Tottenham started started creeping into the game by the end of first half). I will share my take on these.

Discrepancy in your argument
1. Playing Pogba on the right, despite the strong foot.weak foot argument, turned out to be the right move. Simply because Dele Alli is an attack minded CM compared to Eric Dier. This move was meant to give more freedom to Pogba with Fred having to deal with the defensive minded CM in Dier. You could clearly see the way Pogba was dictating terms from the middle of the park during the first half by pinging accurate long balls to the front 3.

Also Fred kept cutting inside to the middle/right shooting with his left foot or outside to the wing (crossing with his left foot) making him very effective offensively and extremely difficult to mark. This actually helped United create utter chaos in the Tottenham Midfield. The only chances Tottenham created during the first half were long ball knock downs from Kane. Also all of Pogbas shots were from the right side of the mid and not from the left as claimed in your post.

(This didn't work in the second half as Dier and Dembele got wise and started tracking down Fred.)

2. Everything you listed about Matic is true. In my opinion he was one of the poorest player on the pitch. He was piss poor, very lazy and totally out of form/fitness. Him, along with mistakes from Smalling and Jones led to United demise.

3. I don't agree with your 3rd point at all. Ander Herrara made crucial tackles throughout the whole game. His presence allowed Valencia to bomb forward which he did really well for a good 50 mins of the game, without the clinical end product though.

4. At all points in the game there were always 2 people covering on the right - either of Herrara, Valencia and Pogba. In my opinion the game had nothing to do with Valencia or Pogba doing a bad job. In fact literally zero attacks came from the Tottenham left wing.


How Tottenham Overcame United Tactically:
1. Luke Shaw - Weak LWB - Yes Luke Shaw had a great game going forward. But he is the one of the main reasons United lost the game. If you closely observe the game (or highlights if needed), by 2nd half Tottenham realized Shaw was out of position with his aggression going forward and decided to punish it. It is very clear that they made a tactical switch by dragging one of their CM (mostly Erikksen) in the half space vacated by Shaw and used that space to create chances in the middle. They kept repeating it time and again and eventually found their goal (2nd goal).

It's difficult for the normal fan to understand how the much maligned Luke Shaw turned out to be a sudden world beater against Tottenham (Most of the ratings in Cafe would have rated him top of the list). This is only because Luke Shaw was always good going forward and he had the license to do it this game with their more attack-minded formation. This punt would have worked had United used many of his forward runs and scored a goal. I am certain he would have been asked to stay put once the 1st United goal went in. In a tight defensive 4 at the back formation Shaw will always be found out (similar to Liverpool's Moreno) as he is an attack minded wingback.

2. Weak CBs - Almost none of the Tottenham attack came from the right wing. Purely because of the hardworking Ander Herrara and much maligned Tony Valencia pair. Unlike the Tottenham right, the Tottenham left side of Alli/Kane had their best moments only by cutting into the middle. The central triangle of Matic - Smalling - Jones made a string of individual mistakes and weak tackles literally winning Tottenham the game.


Truth is United were miles better than Tottenham this game. I have never seen a Mourinho side being this open and outright attacking the opposition as he did this game (it's evident from Luke Shaw's success as he is more suited to this tactical style. Though Shaw has improved a lot, he is still not a reliable enough out and out LB)

Watch the Game again after reading this post. I am certain you will appreciate the game and the different tactics from two world class managers fighting each other.
 
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Everyone seems to be blaming our defence but it is actually our attack that is the problem. We are simply not scoring enough goals. We will always concede but if we do not score goals then we will always lose. Lukaku had three chances to score in the first half. If he had even scored one we probably would have beaten Spurs. When you muss such chances then the morale goes down.
 
Janson said:
This season. You mean these 3 games?:lol:

Yeah sure, it was all Ddg, keep believing that.
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You seriously don't think de Gea was the reason why we had more points than Liverpool and Spurs? The gap last season was small as is. Why else do you and Jose think United need another CB and fullbacks? Because you don't believe our defense is great right despite the stats showing United didn't concede many goals? Or the fact that we conceded so many chances of the top 6 teams.

Yeah de Gea is the reason for that. And if de Gea isn't the difference maker, what's your excuse for the Spurs match? Are they in reality a better team despite the famed 2nd place finish you Mourinho cultists love to parrot? Or were United clearly the better team who added a midfielder in Fred, played at home, and played against Spurs who did not buy anyone this summer?

Which is it? What's your excuse?
 
DownRiver said:
Let's be honest here.

Mourinho and man utd failed at getting in the right players. Mourinho has won so much and has managed top teams from top leagues.

They had great defences and he had centre backs like Ramos, Varane, Terry, Materazzi etc. Compare this with our defence! We have Jones and Smalling who have somehow survived from Fergie's squad and they are not good enough. Bailly and Lindelof are not good enough. Can we be real? They make mistakes, are rash and not great centre-backs. I am sure Mourinho looked at these players because of scouts from Man utd giving him reports of how well the players are. They have potential, but not ready-made centre-backs. We all know Mourinho wants ready-made centre-backs, yet you want Mourinho to change his spots?

Pep bought a goalkeeper and then bought another because the GK was not good enough. These things happen.

One positive is Shaw, and Mourinho was proved right that this was down to Shaw needing to change his mindset etc. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot wrong with Mourinho. But he needs backing and we saw how good Toby was for Spurs, and this just showed Woodward's naivety thinking he knows best.

I really feel that if Mourinho leaves, it will be due to our centre backs. I however just don't understand how you can go from being the team that conceded the second least goals last year, to utter shambles. How does that even work?
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Don’t under estimate the power of confidence. They were all run down in the media this summer. Now I know they’re not great but you’d believe they’re all relegation level defenders the way people talk about them. Don’t forget Leicester won the league with bloody Morgan and Huth at CB. Are we to forget that Baily looked solid and potentially great in 16/17? Could all of our CB underperforming be a case of coaching? What the hell do they work on?

Toby would have been a good signing but is he the only cb in the world? Should we bow to Levy demands and pay through the roof because Jose wants him? We already have fans on here writing off 40m Matic & fans already saying we over spent on Fred.
 
A new member here. Been a Utd fan all my life and am not really one for getting rid of managers and believe they need time. For me Jose had this season to prove he could turn us into title contenders, we look far from it and we don't even look like a top 4 team.

I have looked at next 5 games and in my mind set a target of 11-13 points, if we can't achieve that target I think it's a time for a change.
 
The beautiful game said:
Where to start!.As a chelsea supporter i know what you guys are going through i wanted him gone during his first stint.Mourhino is only interested in himself and the adulation his delusional mind expects because of his (fading)past success.

His football is the antithesis of everyone that thinks it is a spectator sport.He blames everyone from medical staff to referees to the media and supporters.. yes supporters!.Did you not cringe when he said the best judges are the supporters! - did he not say your supporters were too quiet?

he is toxic get rid of him sooner than later.Imo he lost it when he was jilted by Madrid - can you see your team suddenly turning the team around? no he will drag you down and think he is the last person to blame - that's what a narcissist does and those calling for woodwards head might think again - would you trust Mourhino with unlimited millions?
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Some of us already see this. And no, I don't want him to have another penny. I guess we know he's going but just don't know when.

Can only hope the decision makers get the next appointment right.
 
TsuWave said:
you're just being flat out weird or dumb, and trying to paint yourself as a victim of an "attack" won't change that. need i post our exchange again? you said we made progress the past 2 years, then stated this "then someone decided our CB's are good enough, and now we're seeing they're garbage", verbatim.

those include CB's that Mourinho brought in less than two years ago. then I questioned how much progress we have really made by asserting that our second place finish was greatly due to De Gea having a freakishly good season (which you took to mean De Gea is responsible for our "improvement" lol). I went further and stated that at no point did I feel we were dominant, and said that we still lack basic competence both in attack or defence, all facts. All this with this being Mourinho's 3rd season already, I said that the "progress" hill, shouldn't be the hill you want to die on. We did just get peppered by Brighton, thrown to the bushes by Spurs, at home.

The fact that you think you called me out on anything just compounds how delusional you are coming off as. You can either read, process and understand or you can't. It's not my damage, and at this point, I'm not gonna navigate you through this conversation again.
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You start with calling me weird and dumb, and then go on to claim I'm painting myself as a victim of a personal attack. Attacking a poster isn't gonna help you argue your point better, you clearly have some anger issues. Then you go breaking things down, seemingly to yourself.

You go around moaning about how bad our players are and then blame Mourinho. Lukaku is rubbish and Matich is finished, lol, our two best players. Claiming Jones and Smalling are shite and then blames the manager despite him wanting a CB. I'm guessing you're moaning in most other player threads as well. I haven't seen a single positive post from you. In the Spurs match, you found things to moan about even through the first half while we were dominating. I'm amazed you don't have a moaner tag.

I was thinking you were an oppo fan troll for a while. It all makes sense now though since you seem to be a member of Martial FC.
 
Cant wait for a new manager. And then Ed says to him I'll buy you that player for that price.
 
Janson said:
You start with calling me weird and dumb, and then go on to claim I'm painting myself as a victim of a personal attack. Attacking a poster isn't gonna help you argue your point better, you clearly have some anger issues. Then you go breaking things down, seemingly to yourself.

You go around moaning about how bad our players are and then blame Mourinho. Lukaku is rubbish and Matich is finished, lol, our two best players. Claiming Jones and Smalling are shite and then blames the manager despite him wanting a CB. I'm guessing you're moaning in most other player threads as well. I haven't seen a single positive post from you. In the Spurs match, you found things to moan about even through the first half while we were dominating. I'm amazed you don't have a moaner tag.

I was thinking you were an oppo fan troll for a while. It all makes sense now though since you seem to be a member of Martial FC.
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I'd leave it.
 
Matt Noah said:
Imagine if Pep or Zidane were in charge. I don't see different results.

Imagine if Messi or Mbappe along with Maguire were playing in Man Utd Red. I see different results.

Jose is not a bad jockey. He's just riding a slow horse.
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Messi and Mbappé under Mourinho lol. Messi would be playing like he does for Argentina and Mbappé would be considered a moody bottler.
 
Bojan11 said:
Do what all night?

You getting giddy because we pressed for 30 mins. How many saves did the Spurs goalkeeper make? You forgot we could have had a penalty conceded and every long ball in the box we struggled to deal with.

And Spurs in the second half after going 2-0 ahead decided to sit back, so of course we’d have more shooting chances. But we never looked threatening once. Besides the Alderweireld challenge on Lingard, I don’t recall Spurs scrambling in defence. They were in complete control.

You call that a good performance just shows how bad our standards have dropped by some of our fans. If Moyes had served that shit, I’m sure you’d be calling for his head.
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Lukaku had a very good chance immediately after Spurs scored. Lindelof should've done better with his back post header. Lukaku having the ball cut back shouldnt done better. Matic was inches from scoring. A bit more bend on Fred's attempt and Lloris had no chance. Pogbas flick on from Shaws cross should've resulted in a better attempt from Lukaku, as should have his headed chance in the first half. I'm sure there are more.

We created plenty of chances. Conversing we forced Spurs to complete more unsuccessful passes than any other team this season, controlled the possession, territory and had more shots on goal than any team has managed against Spurs this season or last.

Frankly, we should have won. Of course we didn't, and that's an issue, but there's some pretty heavy revisionism going on here I think caused by the poor result.
 
Janson said:
It's my fault. Probably not a good idea to engage a Martial FC fan right after Martial was dropped from the squad.
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No, your fault is bolded here. You sound antagonistic most of the time.
 
I am willing to give him more time. There were good signs on Monday. If he sticks to that style and we can get the scoring up and running things could improve quickly. Also everybody is screaming for Zidane who will still have to work with what we have.
until January. He has never had to deal with this situation before. There could be more options next summer. Conte has been mentioned, his football is not great and he could be as scarred from the Chelsea job as Jose supposedly is.

I also think there were players in that side who are not up to speed yet. Herrera had not played, Matic has had no pre-season so was obviously going to be rusty. Valencia has not played. Lingard has had no pre-season or played. Can't think of an reason for Jones though.
 
Hawks2008 said:
Getting rid of him won't solve anything. The issues are deeper than the manager.
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No it won't, but it will give the fans immediate hope and a lift.. which is what the club and supporters need more than anything right now because of the toxic cancer surrounding the club at the minute. We usually make signings but we couldn't even get that really to get us excited. Mourinho's head is the prized scalp/plum the fans would need to get us excited again by getting an attacking manager in like Zidane.. give the fans an attacking team even if we are rubbish and don't win owt.. that's not too much to ask for our wee club is it!?

Afterwards look long-term and appoint a director of football etc, but long-term isn't what fans want and need right now and with the prices in football.. can you blame them!?

Manchester United have the most loyal, passionate fans in the World in my view.. Stretford End never booing Moyes, Van Gaal etc always sticking by the manager is part of the fabric/DNA of this special club.. and if the fans see the club heading in the right direction (playing the "Manchester United Way" and having a long-term project/vision bringing in a director of football etc) I think they will be very patient as they always have.
 
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DomesticTadpole said:
I am willing to give him more time. There were good signs on Monday. If he sticks to that style and we can get the scoring up and running things could improve quickly. Also everybody is screaming for Zidane who will still have to work with what we have.
until January. He has never had to deal with this situation before. There could be more options next summer. Conte has been mentioned, his football is not great and he could be as scarred from the Chelsea job as Jose supposedly is.
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I'm in the more time camp but not until January, for me the limit is one third of the season.
 
JPRouve said:
No, your fault is bolded here. You sound antagonistic most of the time.
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Might be the case but I don't see anyone else reacting like that. Throwing around personal insults and asking people if they're drunk. I play within the rules.

I personally think "fans" that only bring negativity and don't have a single positive thing to say about their club should be called out.
 
Janson said:
Might be the case but I don't see anyone else reacting like that. Throwing around personal insults and asking people if they're drunk. I play within the rules.

I personally think "fans" that only bring negativity and don't have a single positive thing to say about their club should be called out.
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You don't bring positivity though, your post history is largely made of you judging United fans and making snarky comments. If you want to bring positivity discuss with people what you do create a bad atmosphere and nothing else.
 
JPRouve said:
You don't bring positivity though, your post history is largely made of you judging United fans and making snarky comments. If you want to bring positivity discuss with people what you do create a bad atmosphere and nothing else.
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I believe I have every right to judge some of the so called fans. It's a result of the state of this forum and all the fair weather fans we have on here.

If you think I create a bad atmosphere, just take a look at my posts in match threads, and tell me in what way they differ from like 50% of the forum. I cheer my team on and don't jump to criticize anyone that makes a single mistake.

I would love to see how the atmosphere at our games would be if all the moaners on here went to a match.
 
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It was up end of last season. I remember saying in the summer that he'd done a good job getting us where he had but he wouldnt be able to make the next step with us.
 
I've firmly been in the Jose out camp since the CL exit. However, sacking him now will do more damage than good.

I think we should wait until it's mathematically impossible to make top 4.
 
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