Exactly, he's like Rafa but shops in John Lewis. Then goes home and complains about the quality, completely ignoring his neighbours who have been finding bargains in Lidl and Morrisons for years.
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Exactly, he's like Rafa but shops in John Lewis. Then goes home and complains about the quality, completely ignoring his neighbours who have been finding bargains in Lidl and Morrisons for years.
Jose is living on false dawns, it's only a matter of time until that runs out really.
It doesn't help that the top red away fans go singing his name whenever we start to resemble a respectable performance.
His mouth is unbelievable though, Moyes got sacked for worse ffs.
It doesn't help that the top red away fans go singing his name whenever we start to resemble a respectable performance.
His mouth is unbelievable though, Moyes got sacked for worse ffs.
I feel your pain. Watching Chelsea and Arsenal rejuvenated after only a few months with minor tweaking is double agony. Out of the title race in October after 3 years and half a billion spunked down the drain with nothing to show for it except for excremental football and the club going nowhere. The lack of viable replacements just adds to the misery.
Reasons why he should go.
Bought Lukaku for £75m - Absolute Donkey.
Bought Bailly and Lindelof for £30m each - Neither are good enough.
Bought Fred for £50m - Doesn't play him and insists on ageing Matic.
Genuinely believes Fellaini is a credible plan B - Has no other plan when he isn't available.
What is plan A?
Reasons why he should stay
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Bought Lukaku for £75m - Absolute Donkey.
Bought Bailly and Lindelof for £30m each - Neither are good enough.
Bought Fred for £50m - Doesn't play him and insists on ageing Matic.
Genuinely believes Fellaini is a credible plan B - Has no other plan when he isn't available.
What is plan A?
Reasons why he should stay
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Bought Sanzhez and doesn't now how to get the best out of him.
The most damning I guess is he improved quite literally no one, impressive this for one of the best paid coaches in the world football.
Its only going to get worse on the pitch, I cannot see us getting anything away to Juve or City and I'm not confident we can beat either Everton or Bournemouth. To not score one fecking goal at home in two CL games is embarrassing.
P13 W5 D3 L5 F20 A19, with only one win in last seven games and that was a last minute winner after being 2 nil down at home to a shite team. Its a joke right now and I am certain by the next international break Jose will depart, unless the club is happy for us to be regarded as a mid table, low tier European club. I do not think our sponsors will be though.
We have some average players for sure but we also now seem to have an average manager/tactician/man manager living off his past glories
P13 W5 D3 L5 F20 A19, with only one win in last seven games and that was a last minute winner after being 2 nil down at home to a shite team. Its a joke right now and I am certain by the next international break Jose will depart, unless the club is happy for us to be regarded as a mid table, low tier European club. I do not think our sponsors will be though.
We have some average players for sure but we also now seem to have an average manager/tactician/man manager living off his past glories
Nah, it's not working.
He won 3 trophies, got us back in the CL and that's something.
Woodward needs to go as well.
Bring Zidane in ASAP and someone who knows about football to help with transfers etc.
He won 3 trophies, got us back in the CL and that's something.
Woodward needs to go as well.
Bring Zidane in ASAP and someone who knows about football to help with transfers etc.
Cool, just sit back and say nothing then because everything is clearly OK, Jose has a clear, concise plan and the future is rosy under him.
Don't really get why you would assume I've not been following this, Ive been following this probably more than I should have, I've got other things I really should be getting on with even right now. I can't help getting involved in this though because it's painful to watch the soul of something I love, be progressively ripped out by a egotistical, deluded fraudster on the verge of a breakdown.
By the way, that is 100% my own opinion and not based on anyone else's, I don't even read any garbage red top newspapers and even if I do happen too, it's always with an open mind, taking on board that it's 99% contrived or possibly not even true.
As I said, my main concern, was that Mourinhio's antics were overlooked because of what he said after the Newcastle game (that he is the victim of a manhunt).
I 100% disagree that he is any sort of victim in this, he's being criticised at the minute because how a team plays is a reflection of their manager, and at the minute we are absolute garbage.
If he can't accept that these performances aren't good enough then he should leave, simple.
It's hard to have a grounded opinion on Mourinho's tenure but it's just not working. We need to get him out and get somebody in who inspires the players and fans alike.
The results don't bother me but our performances and lack of desire is nothing short of horrible for fans with a memory that extends past five years.
The results don't bother me but our performances and lack of desire is nothing short of horrible for fans with a memory that extends past five years.
Mods we really need to see who's voting what.
Damn! This thread is like the mothership of echo chambers. All of us agree he needs to go. We just seem to enter here to vent and repeat what's already been stated before...
Too right.
Everyone is preaching to the choir. Yesterday reached a new point for me.
I'm no longer frustrated, I'm no longer angry or sad.
I'm just tired. I just want it to end.
Too right.
Everyone is preaching to the choir. Yesterday reached a new point for me.
I'm no longer frustrated, I'm no longer angry or sad.
I'm just tired. I just want it to end.
The manager seems that way himself.
Exactly 29.5% doesn't share your opinion mate, but I tend to agree with the "venting" part.
Ashley Young loves him
We were expected to get 0 points against Chelsea and Juve and we got 1. People’s views are from before this so I don’t understand the knee jerk reaction after the Juve game.
Everyone wants Jose gone, and are just repeating what they have said before the Chelsea game, actually repeating what they have said 5 games ago.
Everyone wants Jose gone, and are just repeating what they have said before the Chelsea game, actually repeating what they have said 5 games ago.
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This entered a new low for me. It wasn’t that Juventus were the better team. That happens. It’s the fact he did absolutely nothing to try and change it. He didn’t try Chong. He didn’t switch Matic for Herrera, or bring Fred on, move Pogba further forward. He did nothing to positively affect the game, for now or in the future. He gained nothing from the game, except damage limitation and perhaps a finger pointing exercise to Woodward.
The whole world can see Lukaku needs a rest and Matic needs the bench, and yet game after game, like a cracked record, he continues, with the same tested and worn out plan.
Even after Newcastle and Chelsea second halfs where he saw that pressing was the answer and standing off wasn’t, he persists with the same plan, against a team that is used to playing againsy that and are masters at it.
It’s like he’s unable to change. Part mentally due to absolute stubborness, and part because the truth is he doesnt appear to know any other way. Football seemingly has passed him on. And rather than attempt to do anything to try and confront that he’d rather throw his toys out the pram and make points to the board, or point at his past glories like a fallen hero. But the greatest swordsman is nothing against a gun. And our season is imploding because of it.
Most of the time he can’t even be bothered to get off his ass and scream at the players when they’re clearly making mistakes. He’s living on borrowed time and I wish I could puncture the hour glass, and make his pain and ours go away fast.
This game has run. It’s no good pointing at his past glories in blind faith. Look at the evidence. Is there any semblance of improvement? Any shred of evidence that suggests he can put it right?
The only thing I can see is a slight upturn in positivity. But let’s see how that’s doing by the time we get to City.
On to the next one.
The whole world can see Lukaku needs a rest and Matic needs the bench, and yet game after game, like a cracked record, he continues, with the same tested and worn out plan.
Even after Newcastle and Chelsea second halfs where he saw that pressing was the answer and standing off wasn’t, he persists with the same plan, against a team that is used to playing againsy that and are masters at it.
It’s like he’s unable to change. Part mentally due to absolute stubborness, and part because the truth is he doesnt appear to know any other way. Football seemingly has passed him on. And rather than attempt to do anything to try and confront that he’d rather throw his toys out the pram and make points to the board, or point at his past glories like a fallen hero. But the greatest swordsman is nothing against a gun. And our season is imploding because of it.
Most of the time he can’t even be bothered to get off his ass and scream at the players when they’re clearly making mistakes. He’s living on borrowed time and I wish I could puncture the hour glass, and make his pain and ours go away fast.
This game has run. It’s no good pointing at his past glories in blind faith. Look at the evidence. Is there any semblance of improvement? Any shred of evidence that suggests he can put it right?
The only thing I can see is a slight upturn in positivity. But let’s see how that’s doing by the time we get to City.
On to the next one.
Too right.
Everyone is preaching to the choir. Yesterday reached a new point for me.
I'm no longer frustrated, I'm no longer angry or sad.
I'm just tired. I just want it to end.
Rightly or wrongly, I found myself feeling that way two games into the season.
Mourinho not changing anything yesterday just shows he isn't the man for the job.
He did absolutely nothing.
He is a coward, probably worried about conceding another goal.
Get rid. Please.
He did absolutely nothing.
He is a coward, probably worried about conceding another goal.
Get rid. Please.
At this point, I can’t see us doing any worse coach-less. He’s well and truly done as far as I’m concerned.
So this is the best the club can come up with to defend our dreadful run. The tweet is bad enough, the article even worse.
Last few pages, I'd say there are far fewer dissenters... My guess is that a lot have just failed to change their votes from early on...
I agree the CBs did well yesterday but in general our defence has been poor so far. We've shipped far too many goals and think we've conceded most goals from set pieces in the league.
On that note, can I be so bold as to suggest that he should probably go? Yeah, i said it...
Debating whether to read it but worried I'll even be more upset.
Posted this after the Newcastle game.
Clearly little has changed so I'm firmly in the out camp now. We are just so slow and static in how we play.
Tail end of 2015, under Van Gaal, was a bit worse: DDDLLLLD. He still wasn't fired for that so... we have little hope.
I remember that.
I think his teams at home, were virtually unbeatable. Then he joined MUFC.
I am still Jose In, but I can't understand how one of the best managers in the World has fallen so low. 10th place in the league. Out of the league cup. Struggling to win matches in our CL group. Struggling to beat Championship teams.
How does this happen?
So, would the ex-Monaco manager be worth a punt? I know that he works well with youngsters, but does he play attacking football?
There's definitely a section of them that are "we must follow the manager no matter what".Dude, did you really just call United's travelling support 'top reds'?
Couldn't believe them belting out his name against Chelsea just because we managed to turn around a 2-0 scoreline at home to Newcastle ffs.
I read up to the picture of Jaap Stam and couldn’t read any more. An embarrassment of an article. Who gave this the green light? Surely someone with any kind of sense would say it’s more sensible to not say anything rather than put out a ridiculous article like that.
Then again I’m sure someone is going to eat it up and say “you know they’re right. The parallels between fergie and Jose are obvious. He needs more time and backing”
Then again I’m sure someone is going to eat it up and say “you know they’re right. The parallels between fergie and Jose are obvious. He needs more time and backing”
Read the first two paragraphs and closed the page. Knew where the article was headed.
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Thanks, think I've repressed that time after all the sessions...
I said it at the time, coming back and beating Newcastle was the worse thing that could have happened. We needed to lose that game for the long term success of the club. All it did was buy Jose more games.
I’m not a top red. I like it when we’re winning and I don’t mind losing as long as we’re entertained. I care a lot about this club. Not players or managers, but the club.
Right now, the results stink and so does the style of football. Feck him off right now and get, I dunno, Roy Cropper in charge, don’t care who it is as long as it isn’t that negative, past it, narcissist who’s currently our manager.
I’m not a top red. I like it when we’re winning and I don’t mind losing as long as we’re entertained. I care a lot about this club. Not players or managers, but the club.
Right now, the results stink and so does the style of football. Feck him off right now and get, I dunno, Roy Cropper in charge, don’t care who it is as long as it isn’t that negative, past it, narcissist who’s currently our manager.
Would you have considered Emery as a viable replacement had he been available though? Many wouldn't. Sure there's somebody out there.
I expect a bunch of them are just showing off that they've decided to blame Woodward instead. Or maybe Pogba.
I assumed that because of all things you wrote that were nothing more than media driven narrative to sell papers and get clicks. You’ve done nothing but repeat the nonsense that’s been said everywhere and in most cases disproven already. People that want Jose out have already told you that you’re opinion of Jose being at fault for reacting is bullshit, and it’s been explained to you why it’s bullshit. The fa made no charges, which you made some snark comment about the fa being shit. They weren’t so shit that they didn’t hire a lip reader, and a translator to so the could charge him for comments made. It’s painfully clear that you’re happy to take the negative as gospel, and the positive as lies. And no one of worth will every respect that kind of argument.
He was a victim of taunting, and he just ignored it until something was said. And what was said angered that whole bench so much that they all got up in unison. But you blame Jose for reacting to what was said. Ie blaming him for being human. Might as well have made some crass comment like “what did he think was going to happen at a football match...”, or “probably wouldn’t have worn that United managers suit.”. Everybody involved accepts who was at fault, except you. Why? Because you let your bias cloud your reasoning and we go back to you believing everything that negative and nothing that’s positive. You don’t even for a second consider that both might be true, and that Jose is bad for the team and is a victim of the press at the same time. I just read another thread where a comment was attributed to Jose, which was shown just a few posts in to be bullshit yet the replies just keep rolling in like it’s all true. And that’s the real problem of why we are all still arguing. Far too many people believe the accusation, and aren’t willing to accept that they were wrong when it’s proven otherwise. Which is the internet in a nutshell I suppose.
Jose isn’t the devil you or other paint him as, nor is he the angel of innocence he pretends to be. The truth as always is somewhere in the middle. But hyperbolic statements both for and against the man are pointless and only draw out these needless and boring arguement. He’s not going anywhere until he can’t make the champions league next year. That’s just a fact. There’s no one of worth available that could replace him at the moment, that’s also a fact. So arguing and moaning and going to extremes one way or the other is utterly pointless because he’s not leaving. At least not until we can’t make top 4.
1 win in 7 matches,10th place and 7 points off the top 5. Anyone claiming things are somehow improving has tremendously low expectations for one of the most expensive squads ever assembled
Moyesesque...
Moyesesque...
Yup. I’m fully of that opinion now. The fans that are just willing to ride this all out till we’re ‘officially’ out of Top 4 and potentially several of our players have left or are angling to leave is fecking infuriating. And that’s definitely happening. We’re just marching towards it in slow motion, shrugging our shoulders going “but would it really make a difference, dur dur durr durrr.” Hooray!
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