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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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I agree. Someone (I believe @Kag ) brought up Macheda. Yeah, there have been times where it hasn't worked (like someone mentioning Powell), but you win some and you lose some. It's worth a shot in the end.
Yet all he did was bemoan that he didn't have Fellaini.
Exactly. That point would make sense if we were drawing or winning the game but we were losing and never looked like getting anything other than a defeat.
Personally I would have liked to have Fellaini available too but that's fecked up anyway to resort to him only
Listening to him in that press conference. It was all 'Woe is me. Look at what I have to work with'. Well there are managers with lesser players than you have who are above you in the league mate. Try doing what you are paid for and bloody coach them, manage them. He just wants more and more money, now is it that the signings are not entirely his and he has just gone along with them? The structure of the club seriously needs looking at regarding the first team. I don't trust Ed and I don't trust Jose to get it right.
Jose Mourinho: from Shitcoat to Shitcoach
Only when he leaves the club and talk about his tenure will we know for sure if those players are really "his". I don't think any of them was signed without his ok.
GTFO José
I just don't get signing Bailly or Lindelof when there would have been much better players out there if we made the effort. They were easy signings, cheap signings and it is showing. They both needed a manager who can deal and mentor younger players, instead they got Jose. Sanchez was just getting one up on City as was Fred.
Thought I would wake up this morning with my feelings towards him mellowed.
No. Still fuming at how much of a coward he is
No. Still fuming at how much of a coward he is
They weren't cheap.
It's incredible that two good halves of football have pretty much saved him from the sack, and eased all pressure on his position. It's likely anything that happened before the Newcastle game is now void and we have to go through it all again until the pressure builds.
Bailly and Lindelof were relative to what other teams were shelling out to get the best defenders. I think they were just hoping that they were future stars in the making. With SAF they could be, but Jose just doesn't have the patience as is showing with Bailly. Think he is only still playing Lindelof, who I think was good in the 2nd half, because of Rojo and god help us, Jones were injured. Will be interesting to see if he tries to put Rojo back in.
Yeah but we beat Newcastle at home, he creates this fantastic 'them and us' friction with the big bad ABU media, he's won big trophies at other clubs, we played 'well' for half an hour against Spurs and we 'tried' in a-few other games. C'mon, give the guy a break he's only spent an obscene amount of money on mostly shite players and he 'tries' to attack every now and again when needs be.
It really isn't, 35m€ for a CB is still a high fee today, these two transfers are the 10th and 16th highest fees for CBs.
Everton could be more difficult than Juve. After two difficult games against Chelsea and Juve there might not be enough in the tank.
I think he should go. He lost me (again) yesterday when he didn’t make a sub and seemed to be satisfied with a 1-0 loss at home.
But they came under the current inflation of the English market.
Are they the best we could get though?
He will sacrifice the players and the club to protect his reputation. He does it without hesitation.b
Well that's the risk one has to take. No risks no rewards. Unfortunately financials are a big factor in decision making in a business. The investors doesn't care about football, and it's quality or the feeling around fanbase, Returns dominate their line of thinking.
I couldn’t fault the commitment and desire of the players yesterday. We just looked like a poorly coached side, that’s the big problem. After three years this just isn’t good enough.
If we get through to the knockout round, then what. There is a chance we will get another top side to play. Is he just not going to bother. The fact last season after the Sevilla game he basically said we couldn't win it anyway.
Bailly went the same summer Skriniar, Hummels, Umtiti and other moved for less. He was the third most expensive CB behind Stones and Mustafi, 3m behind the latter. It wasn't a cheap transfer and clearly better players went for less.
After wrecking 3 clubs, his reputation has pretty much taken a hit. Don't think any club with the stature of Madrid and United will be willing to hire him, and Chelsea fans seem to be burning the bridges with him also.
Italian football will have his takers, but even psg wouldn't want Neymar and Mbappe to play as full backs or wingbacks, while playing such a way.
If he wants to remain in Epl top 6 ain't gonna get on board with him.
So we overpaid yet again.
When exactly the useless board sack him?
Exactly but on which country are those 3 playing?
Anyone rather finish 3rd? Only chance of CL next season is Europa League, and if we get through to the knockout stage of the CL we will be embarrassed.
That's irrelevant, Bailly and Lindelof didn't come from the PL. And only one club was actually paying higher fees at the time, Man city, so it wasn't a PL thing either.
This season I think we might just get embarrassed in the EL as well. It isn't Ajax standard now and they are better than when we played them. There is the little matter of Arsenal and Chelsea who will want to win it as well, as well as some strong contenders from Europe.
The only one where you can point is Lindelof coming from Benfica. Bailly was playing on La Liga, clearly clubs in England when they want to buy are being demanded huge sums of money since the increase of the TV rights.
You don't see this sums not even at Barcelona or Real Madrid. Not saying it was good or it is right. Its the reality, of course with the same money you can get other players, reason why there are scouts and agents everywhere.
We won’t win EL. After Juve beat us next time out they’ll have basically qualified top already. This means they may well play a weakened team against Valencia. I don’t think we’re getting out of this group.
To the people who are still saying he was not backed by the board, how many of his signings can be considered as a success at United ? I can think of only Ibra and quite frankly this is the reason we are struggling. Jose had his hit and miss in the transfer market but unfortunately for us its mostly miss and that's the reason we are struggling right, left and center.
He managed to improve Shaw and Fellaini but the rest of the squad has gone a couple of steps backwards in terms development and fighting spirit.
He managed to improve Shaw and Fellaini but the rest of the squad has gone a couple of steps backwards in terms development and fighting spirit.
I don't get your point, in theory none of that make the transfers cheap and when you look at the fee of transfers in general, even in the PL these players weren't cheap. We need to be honest and not go into that nonsense, these are in hindsight bad transfers because the players weren't worth that amount of money but they weren't cheap at all.
We seemingly tried to purchase Maguire/Keane type of players for the price of borderline top CBs.
Then the people doing our buying and selling are idiots.
It's the fact that he's signed the likes of Fred (£50m) who he can't even bring himself to introduce when Matic is stinking out the place, Lukaku who is an absolute shadow of the player he was for the likes of WBA and Everton, of all teams. Sanchez who he signed but doesn't know what to do with, and the fact we have started to regress, to the point where he sees anything other than getting embarrassed as acceptable, that make it almost delusional to still back him.
The 'give him time, he'll turn it around' is really based on nothing at this stage, other than blind faith and previous trophy record, the likes of which even LVG had.
The 'give him time, he'll turn it around' is really based on nothing at this stage, other than blind faith and previous trophy record, the likes of which even LVG had.
I can't believe people actually thought we were 'turning a corner' because we beat an absolutely pathetic Newcastle side and the players have looked somewhat bothered recently. It's not working for Mourinho, it's as simple as that and he has to go.
Thank Christ we didn't go and waste another shed load of cash on Harry fecking Maguire.
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