Last few pages, I'd say there are far fewer dissenters... My guess is that a lot have just failed to change their votes from early on...
It's the weird situation where you know a few losses in a row will be of huge benefit for the club, but no United fan could ever actively cheer against United and hope they lose.
You know we will likely beat Everton and there will be a lot of happy souls again, then Bournemouth is a game where you cannot be sure what we will do. Then City looms. Could that be the end? Knowing our board probably not and off Jose will watching potential targets.
Will they though? That assumes Woodward has learned his lesson but there's no evidence of that. I said this elsewhere - or maybe in this thread? - but Van Gaal wasn't fired for the horror show that was December 2015. We failed to win a single game throughout that month, got knocked out of the CL but he still kept his job!
I don't think Woodward would have sacked him even if we had lost that game. Which is very unfortunate because we are going to continue that march in slow motion, staggering towards the abyss like the bleary-eyed drunks we look like.
This is one of the main things. Seriously. He's a coach. Remember 10, 15 years ago what they did? What they got praised for? There would always be reservations about a coach who needed to spent serious money before doing anything. Hell, way back in the past there was that advertisement for the Arsenal job and one of the requirements said "Can improve the team without spending huge money".
And those who defend both actually use the same justification: it's unlikely to make a difference because we did not have game changers on the bench/there is no proven world-class manager available anyway. So we shouldn't even fecking try, apparently.
Well that's the hope that being in his 3rd season, we would wise up and sack him early. But feck knows. I'd be okay with losing the next 10 games in a row if that's what was needed to get him sacked before the new year instead of at the end of the season. Whatever gets him gone quickest, I'm on board with it. There always is a break point, it just appears to be really, really, really bad for Woodward, because being 10th in the league, playing the worst football out of any relatively decent side in the top 5 leagues, constant negativity from the manager in the press, 1 win in 7 and some truly embarrassing performances apparently haven't been enough to get him sacked already.
I turned on MUTV and they were basically saying that he had no options that would make a difference on the bench. To be fair Lee Sharpe did say that if he felt that why put Chong on the bench in the first place. I then watched his press conference, got depressed and switched off.
Well at the moment for Jose to win a game football is actually a huge achievement (not even going into performances aspect), that's the standard he set. We won 1 out of our last 7.
Yep.
He wont turn it around IMO. We'll be on the right path once we get a manager who instill confidence in the players, improves them and concurrently adds better ones to turn usbinot a top side. Mourinho signs duds/players who regress, instill no cohesion, spends money and then bemoans what he has. This doesn't appear to be going anywhere to me.
He is too set in his ways as you have said to learn from his mistakes. In fact he would rather make them somebody else's mistakes rather than admit to making them himself.
when are they going to shut up, they should stop singing his name, he is not the club and does not represent the fans.
It's not just Jose, this has been going on since SAF left. Woodward and the Glazers have to take some of the blame as well.
The way he has bulked up it looks like he spends all his spare time in the gym pumping iron.
Are you ignoring that the very same Mourinho had those title winners in the bottom half of the league? It's been pretty much the same 3 seasons here as it was at Chelsea. Encouraging first season, at Chelsea he won the title in the 2nd season, here he was 2nd because something he couldn't account for is being in the same league as Pep Guardiola. Pep is a level above even in winning trophies. No Pep, and we arguably wouldve won the title last year. Unfortunately, we didn't. We still got that 2nd season Jose impact, and then the collapse afterwards which is what we're seeing now.
Think he has found that points total and finishing 2nd soul destroying. A lot of seasons it would have been another title for him. Unfortunately Pep has now got City ticking and he knows he has no chance.
People will tell you it’s not his fault that the players are no longer trying hard enough. But even from that perspective, what is the suggested solution? To sell half the squad and probably make a huge loss in the process? The only practical solution is to try new leadership.
There won't be any new threads. I can assure you oh that.
