The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%

  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%

  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%
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As a lifelong Wenger fan its great to see these Mourinho meltdowns. All the digs hes taken at Wenger but you would never see Wenger behaving with the absolute lack of class you see from Mourinho, nor would you see Wenger lose the dressing room and collapse like that.

Mourinho in because hes going to be a key factor in Arsenal making 4th place.
 
Today was Jose officially downing tools. The more I think about, it was all deliberate.

Lines up with a defensive shambles to highlight how badly he needs a CB. Pulled Lindelöf to add to that, then praised Diop and the WHU scouts for finding such a good CB after the game.

Pulls Pogba, pulls Martial, all to prove a point. He's doing everything in his power to get his sacking, i'm convinced now.
 
WR10 said:
To be fair, it seems like a solid tactic to get his 20m pounds pay check early so he can go back on vacation mode. All while ‘sticking’ it to the board/ed trying to deliver a message about cb yet again
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For him it is. I hate him for it.
 
I have nothing against Mourinho have supported him for a long time, but it's time for him to go, as I see no way he can upturn this.
 
FootballHQ said:
Way it's going you'll be 10 + points adrift of 4th place by start of November.

Interesting theory but then I'd say Man. United dropping into Europa gives them better chance of getting CL football than actually staying in the competition.
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The board just don’t sack managers, even midtable teams don’t persist with managers like Utd do.

I expect by Utd play City we will be 15 points of the pace, maybe more. Even with that gap Mourinho will park the bus, and I still think he’d survive defeat if on track to progress in Champions League.

Like Arsenal Utd are run by people who don’t know or care about football, the last thing they want to do is pay off a manager and have to recruit a new one. They don’t know how to, what they are looking for or have any concept of a direction for the club. They’ll cling to hope José turns it around or until they can sack him at a discount and appoint biggest name who is out of contract.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Today was Jose officially downing tools. The more I think about, it was all deliberate.

Lines up with a defensive shambles to highlight how badly he needs a CB. Pulled Lindelöf to add to that, then praised Diop and the WHU scouts for finding such a good CB after the game.

Pulls Pogba, pulls Martial, all to prove a point. He's doing everything in his power to get his sacking, i'm convinced now.
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Yes, the man is absolute poison. Also clearly gives no shits about the club and is only in it to pad his legacy out. Then has the hypocrisy to call out players for a lack of loyalty.
 
Random Task said:
Can you think of any other reason for the board to put off sacking Jose?
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Sheer and utter incompetence would be my guess. These idiots hired Moyes and Van Gaal and have overseen the worst and biggest waste of money in the history of the PL. No club has ever had so little to show for such a big spend. To think with all that money spent a few hundred million more needs to be added to challenge for the title. Insane.
 
Manny said:
You know we are -2 GD.

We are not exactly creating loads of chances and scoring for fun now, are we?
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They were not that good either scoring or creating for LVG, that was my point.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Today was Jose officially downing tools. The more I think about, it was all deliberate.

Lines up with a defensive shambles to highlight how badly he needs a CB. Pulled Lindelöf to add to that, then praised Diop and the WHU scouts for finding such a good CB after the game.

Pulls Pogba, pulls Martial, all to prove a point. He's doing everything in his power to get his sacking, i'm convinced now.
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Did he actually say that? The guys been highly rated for a while, even I've heard of him and I'm too long in the tooth now to focus on football beyond Utd.

Was just waiting for someone to take the risk with him, nothing to do with good scouts
 
Jose wants to be fired, probably because he will get paid more than if he resigned. Ed won't allow such a powermove and would rather the club burn than to allow Jose to win.
 
If we can't sack him and we appoint Zidane, we can keep him as a translator/interpreter, he will go back to his original job.
 
Gifting that shithouse of a club 3 points is the last straw for me.
 
ken11 said:
Jose wants to be fired, probably because he will get paid more than if he resigned. Ed won't allow such a powermove and would rather the club burn than to allow Jose to win.
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It's Ed's fault that there would be such a big payout as well. He likes giving managers long contracts when things look cagey.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
It's like he is wrecking his own career and trying to do the same to poor McTominay's at the same time.
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/exactly. He's just using the boy to make some sick point to whomever. It's awful. He's really got to go.
 
Can't we just shift his role, keep him employed but bring some other manager in.. Depends on the contract signed I guess.

In effect put him on a sort Gardening Leave. I.e. make him run out his deal.

He will get his money over the next 5 years, and stop him managing someone else. Means he won't get all the money in one go (which is kinda like he is being rewarded for failure).

If he wants to manage elsewhere he will then have to resign from us (saving us £€$).

Not sure its possible but would be better than what will probably happen
 
AltiUn said:
Rodgers was sacked by Liverpool on October 4th which is pretty close, Di Matteo was sacked by Chelsea in November which is probably the next closest.
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So not very often at all really.
Even in Jose's incredible meltdown run at Chelsea where they were losing tonnes of games they lasted a lot longer than Sep.

Our board aren't brave or decisive enough to realise it's time.
They aren't football people, so probably haven't noticed we have no direction.
 
K2K said:
Firing Jose isnt the answer to our problems. Its part of the solution.

But keeping him isnt the answer to it either. He is done here. He knows it. The players know it.
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That's what I was saying, Mourinho is part of the problem and he won't be here long. But the new manager will need some top class reinforcements.
 
LeeFunK said:
Can't we just shift his role, keep him employed but bring some other manager in.. Depends on the contract signed I guess.

In effect put him on a sort Gardening Leave. I.e. make him run out his deal.

He will get his money over the next 5 years, and stop him managing someone else. Means he won't get all the money in one go (which is kinda like he is being rewarded for failure).

If he wants to manage elsewhere he will then have to resign from us (saving us £€$).

Not sure its possible but would be better than what will probably happen
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I'm sure some guy who was quite up on contracts in football law, said you generally only pay a manager one year of his deal, or up to him next finding a job.
We wouldn't be paying a colossal 5 years off.

I bet we regret extending that deal though!
 
I’ve no faith in him turning this around. I wanted him to succeed as much as anyone but this is the end of the road for me. The only question is who should replace him, cause I’m not sure about Zidane.
 
Only wishful thinking on Woodwards part is going to keep Jose in a job for next few games. Lets be honest he knows sod all about football, but I would have thought he might have a tiny amount of business acumen. Thing is, you wouldn’t run a business so incompetently as he has.

I’m not convinced Woodward has the footballing intelligence to see what is painfully obvious to even the most casual of observers that Jose and Utd need to sever ties as soon as possible.

It also begs the question who he is going to appoint when the inevitable happens in the next 6/7 games?
 
This isn't meant as 'I told you so' but did anybody else think Jose's tactics would be too similar to LVG's borefests?
 
Today’s selection was like a sabotage effort from Jose. He is asking to be fired and the club should just pay him the cash and get rid.

This will solve just 5% of our problems and we won’t recover until somebody with a proper sporting vision buys our great club.
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
This isn't meant as 'I told you so' but did anybody else think Jose's tactics would be too similar to LVG's borefests?
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There was an Ajax fan on here who argued that LVG and Mourinho are two of the most similar coaches in football in terms of their philosophies. Can't remember the gist of his argument but it was something about risk-aversion.
 
LeeFunK said:
Can't we just shift his role, keep him employed but bring some other manager in.. Depends on the contract signed I guess.

In effect put him on a sort Gardening Leave. I.e. make him run out his deal.

He will get his money over the next 5 years, and stop him managing someone else. Means he won't get all the money in one go (which is kinda like he is being rewarded for failure).

If he wants to manage elsewhere he will then have to resign from us (saving us £€$).

Not sure its possible but would be better than what will probably happen
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Surely that would be viewed as constructive dismissal by the courts.
 
Bring in Zidane for the remainder of the season with one more year, with an option to extend for 2 or 3 more based on results after that full season.
 
Hes done, fans have turned on him and I believe we'll start seeing that at OT soon. I believe its now a matter of when not if, pretty confident saying he wont be our manager next season for sure.
 
Rash Decision said:
There was an Ajax fan on here who argued that LVG and Mourinho are two of the most similar coaches in football in terms of their philosophies. Can't remember the gist of his argument but it was something about risk-aversion.
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Now I really am going to say I told you so :lol:

Absolutely not. My gripe with LvG isn't so much the average league standing (although 4th and the FA Cup wouldn't actually be a disaster) - my problem with him is the boring anti-football he's instilled into our once ferocious, pacey, attacking club.

I fear more of the same under Mourinho. We might win more often and may even start taking silverware, but for me at least what enchanted me about United in the first place was the richly entertaining football we played and as strange as it sounds, I'd take that over trophies (and personally, think the two go together anyway). I fear Mourinho's appointment will lead to some very boring seasons for us all
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As somebody that didn't really pay attention to Zidane at Real Madrid; is it true that he's defensive and boring too?
 
There were 99% of Jose out tweets to United's twitter account when I checked some hours before. Don't know if it's changed but fans are saying they are tired of the excuses etc. One more bad result and there will probably be a riot.
 
But he just needs time guys. And look on the brightside, he hasn't fallen out with Lee Grant yet
 
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