Yup, Mourinho had no idea how to use what he was given. Time to feck off.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Yup, Mourinho had no idea how to use what he was given. Time to feck off.
I went to every he game and a lot of away games and supported the team whilst LVG was here. Did you? You don't know shit.
I think it's the case of players stop believing in the manager. When you are not happy and your thinking is muddled, it's not easy to perform on the pitch. Jose getting sacked would have been a huge burden of everyone's shoulder. Like at the moment with us it looks like he is bogging everyone down.
I don't believe that players will consciously conspire to get a manager fired.
Thankfully the share price has been on a steady decline since the start of the season, so he will sit up and take notice of that.
Completely agree.
Is he still here? Hoped I'd wake up this morning and he'd be gone....
Fully agreed. I'm just very skeptical about whether the board will make the decision based on this game. Honestly, I worry that we would need to be midtable at the half-way mark, before Mourinho is in any real danger of losing his job.
This is LvG dévà vu!Did he really say that it was important positive for the team that they didn't lose the game, in his post match comments?
Its more definitive than that. We need to mathematically be outside of the top 4 for him to be sacked. The Moyes tenure made this clear - as shit as Mourinho is his record still stands miles above a tosser likes Moyes, who was afforded that luxury.
I bailed as soon as Jonesy did his thing so didn't see the post match stuff but I heard this morning Jose ducked the press conference, but I don't know whether he's given interviews elsewhere.
I have to say though I don't like Ed, the board or the attitude from some players I can't see a way back for Jose at United. I think as soon as we get a replacement lined up he's gone, for better or worse, and personally I think a breath of fresh air is what we need now, anything else is just delaying the inevitable.
We just aren't making any positive steps with Jose.
Falling out with players, results are getting worse and worse. He's not winning the league any time soon, so whats the point of him being here?
He's a stop gap manager and never was a long term appointment. Cut our losses and move on. Get somebody who will bring the joy back and we'll start moving forwards again.
Falling out with players, results are getting worse and worse. He's not winning the league any time soon, so whats the point of him being here?
He's a stop gap manager and never was a long term appointment. Cut our losses and move on. Get somebody who will bring the joy back and we'll start moving forwards again.
Well if the board's plan is to sack him after we are numerically out of the top 4 race then might as well sack him now and get the new permanent manager right in now . Atleast that way the new manager will have enough time to analyse the squad properly and take decisions accordingly next summer . Honestly I don't see any way back for Mourinho . There seems to be a lot of friction in the dressing room and the board didnt support him in the transfer window either which means they are not convinced by him anymore . So instead of beating around the bushes and waiting for more dire results the management should might as well take the hard decision now by sacking him and getting the new guy in . Who knows maybe the new manager might atleast help us reach top 4 and have a good run in the champions league which will brighten the mood of all the supporters .
I've been pretty supportive of Jose and try to look at the bigger picture. Until now.
For those of you on here that get very angry with anyone that is 'Anti-Jose', can you back that up with:
- What has JM improved from a football perspective since arriving at United?
- Do you see us vastly improving under JM and mounting a serious title challenge anytime soon?
- Do you think JM is still a very good football manager, and why do you think this?
Because I would struggle to answer the above 3 questions when trying to build a case in support for Mourinho. I've got the stage with United where I'm kind of numb to it all. Our football is dreadful, the manager is the arrogant guy who throws player under the bus we all hated at Chelsea, he consistently plays the same players in important matches regardless of form (Lukaku, Sanchez, Matic). It's so eerily similiar to his last days at Chelsea.
I hope we respectfully part ways with him, much sooner than later. If we were playing attacking, entertaining football with an actual gameplan and losing, it wouldn't be so bad. But we're playing dog rough football, can't win a match at home against Wolves and Derby (!) and the manager is always looking to pick a fight with someone.
We were playing similiar football under David Moyes. And he didn't have the luxury of spending an absolute fortune on new players.
I've had enough - it's time to go Jose.
For those of you on here that get very angry with anyone that is 'Anti-Jose', can you back that up with:
- What has JM improved from a football perspective since arriving at United?
- Do you see us vastly improving under JM and mounting a serious title challenge anytime soon?
- Do you think JM is still a very good football manager, and why do you think this?
Because I would struggle to answer the above 3 questions when trying to build a case in support for Mourinho. I've got the stage with United where I'm kind of numb to it all. Our football is dreadful, the manager is the arrogant guy who throws player under the bus we all hated at Chelsea, he consistently plays the same players in important matches regardless of form (Lukaku, Sanchez, Matic). It's so eerily similiar to his last days at Chelsea.
I hope we respectfully part ways with him, much sooner than later. If we were playing attacking, entertaining football with an actual gameplan and losing, it wouldn't be so bad. But we're playing dog rough football, can't win a match at home against Wolves and Derby (!) and the manager is always looking to pick a fight with someone.
We were playing similiar football under David Moyes. And he didn't have the luxury of spending an absolute fortune on new players.
I've had enough - it's time to go Jose.
Looking at my posts in the thread, it's gone exactly how I feared it would go.
Yup. Time for Ed to fek of.
Absolutely, Mourinho, Pogba and Ed would be brilliant. This club needs to be taken forward and those 3 especially can feck off.
Lampard has this Derby team playing MUCH better football within 12 games with loan signings FFS!
If a manager that's only been in the job 6 months can sort his team out that quickly, why can't Jose improve them after 2 years? because he can't.
If a manager that's only been in the job 6 months can sort his team out that quickly, why can't Jose improve them after 2 years? because he can't.
You'd think we'd learn from the Moyes fiasco. The big problem with letting him carrying on past december was that we lost all our leaders, who made plans for pastures anew thinking Moyes may just remain in charge past the summer.
Whilst we don't have such leaders in the team today, the problem would be losing players with good potential.
A percentage of the players have given up on him I feel. He's lost the dressing room.
It really is time for him to go.
It really is time for him to go.
I was willing to give Mourinho more time but its not looking great. The good: Overall we have definitely improved since LVG, our players are better and his signings have generally been decent (other than Sanchez) and geared towards the future. We are in a better place now than we were befoe him.
He's not improved us enough though and it looks like he's starting to lose some key players. I can't see us progressing much further under him. My biggest concern has always been his style of play, and whilst he's a big improvement from the last 2 managers when you look to the other top teams in the leagues we do play the worst football out of the lot of them.
He's not improved us enough though and it looks like he's starting to lose some key players. I can't see us progressing much further under him. My biggest concern has always been his style of play, and whilst he's a big improvement from the last 2 managers when you look to the other top teams in the leagues we do play the worst football out of the lot of them.
Ultimately, I think things will have to get much worse for Mourinho to come under heavy pressure. After all, five games without defeat doesn't see too many get the sack.
He did improve us in terms of play and motivation, but then stopped trying to improve anything as soon as he found something reasonably steady that 'worked'. Only once the motivation was dropping after his 'try and scrape a goal' method was found by teams knowing they can get something has he tried to make us play better football. What an awful way to go about it.
I didn't think there was much chance of him improving us anyway after initially doing so. He's far too reactionary now and not proactive enough. Now it seem he has nothing left to motivate the players. Motivation is massive and well underrated on the caf. All successful managers are great at it, including Jose when he had something about him. I think he struggles to muster up the enthusiasm these days.
Good post. The people who try and argue this were the ones who most likely wanted Moyes to continue.
A tired Burnley, Watford, Young Boys, Wolves and Derby at home. Quite a legendary unbeaten run. But you are right, to Ed, it will seem like, "We are unbeaten in 5 games!!".
5 games against who? Watford? Burnley?Derby? All are global titans of football,, Jose deserves a huge amount of respect for not losing to any of those
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You can get unlucky and can upset over a result but it's gone to the stage where most teams play better football than us regardless of the outcome. Derby deserved to win.
Even when we play bottom half teams, they have spells where they look better than us at attacking. How damning is that?!
Even when we play bottom half teams, they have spells where they look better than us at attacking. How damning is that?!
Are the club still pursuing a DOF or someone of similar footballing ilk ?
Seems to have all gone quiet on that front.
Seems to have all gone quiet on that front.
I was driving back from London on Monday and happened to hear John Motson being interviewed regarding various subjects related to football, the conversation turned to who he felt would finish in the top four. Obviously, the subject of Mourinho came up and he'd mentioned he'd been invited to the Joshua fight on Saturday, whilst doing the corporate thing of a meal before the fight he was sat with a gentleman (didn't name him) who insisted the Jose was on borrowed time and would be gone before Christmas. He didn't say who the guy was but I think it was Motsons way of saying he'd been told by someone involved in the game that knew the situation.
Personally, I want him gone as of today, we're now out of a cup competition which given were not going to win the cups should have been given priority. We play Valencia at home next week if we were to lose that game we'd go into the Juventus back to back games in a terrible position. We could easily lose both games against Juve and I'd back Valencia to beat Young Boys home and away which would leave us as good as out.
Personally, I want him gone as of today, we're now out of a cup competition which given were not going to win the cups should have been given priority. We play Valencia at home next week if we were to lose that game we'd go into the Juventus back to back games in a terrible position. We could easily lose both games against Juve and I'd back Valencia to beat Young Boys home and away which would leave us as good as out.
Of course not, Ed constantly briefs the media about DoF after the run of bad results, then everything goes quiet.
I've always been fully supportive of Mourinho and have always wanted him at United in the past. I'm just not so sure anymore. There are obviously issues with players and that never ends well. I haven't enjoyed watching United since Fergie retired in all honesty. I think we need a change, I'm not sure what or who though.
Really hoped I would wake up this morning and see that he was sacked. Sigh 
Asensio?
He wasn't academy player
I think it is probably only a matter of time - either he hits on the winning formula some time soon, or most likely he leaves. Whether it is his own choice or United's remains to be seen.
He's not going to get sacked until Top 4/CL is out of reach.
Zidane is too much of a flashy name not to spark Eddies interest.
Think of the marketing !
Think of the marketing !
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