Conor protects and Khabib's team attacks. Very careful choice of wording.
Maybe the guy jumping the cage is going to grab Khabib and try to stop the fight ey.
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Maybe the guy jumping the cage is going to grab Khabib and try to stop the fight ey.
I generally feel the same, apart from some annoyance at how Conor gets different treatment at times.
But that isn't exclusive to last night's events.
'I want to change his face'.
And change his face he did. You've got to admire a man who keeps his word.
And change his face he did. You've got to admire a man who keeps his word.
He's had a good hiding before and it does not change the way he acts in public. He's not doing it just because he is a twat, he's doing it because it sells fights and makes him money.
If someone attacks my cousin and then I go and attack them then their actions "directly led to" me attack them. But that in no way excuses, justifies or legitimizes the second attack. Do you really not understand this?
In fairness I think most of the people criticising Khabib were also happy to throw Conor under the bus (har har) for his behaviour. They can both be scumbags.
Still even that is weird, it’s MMA people get caught in submissions, every black belt under the sun will have tapped out, there also is no shame in it, you get caught, there is no way out, what are you supposed to do? People bravado at such things is just silly, what’s that an Arm bar, a rear naked choke and a neck crank. 3 times he’s tapped what is so bad about that. Also his power has failed against 2 guys and one of them was getting lit up like a Christmas tree and was going down repeatedly, he also smashed Alvarez. So really only Kahbib has been able to take the power. We’ll add in Holloway should be fighting at 155, Dustin is a 155’er so it’s not only against smaller guys.
He was able to avenge his highest profile MMA loss before now though which definitely helped. Can't imagine he'll try to do the same here, unless he convinces himself that the two year lay off was to blame.
Yeah the whataboutism is remarkable. Like conor being a scumbag somehow excuses all scumbag behavior from team khabib
This
If you go on insta and look for the account funnyMMA there is a brilliant video of Kahbibs attempted flying kick/stomp. They mustn’t allow sharing as I can’t copy and paste it in to here.
https://www.instagram.com/funnymma
https://www.instagram.com/funnymma
Am I excusing what khabib did? In the above scenario, I would say you instigated the whole thing by attacking the cousin though.
There are people getting death threats over their belief the world is flat
There are people getting hurt, abused or killed because their skin colour is different...
McGregor practically, indirectly insulted one third of the world's population with his "backward" remark over Khabib not drinking alcohol, all for the sake of getting under the skin of a single person and in doing so showed his ignorance .
If you're following that logic then Khabib instigated the whole thing by surrounding Lobov with his gang of buddies and slapping him. It's a rather silly way of looking at things though. There were various instigation points along the way and each person has to take the blame for their own actions.
I don't think this loss will affect his shtick one bit. The UFC will hope it won't and (despite what they might say) neither will whoever his next opponent. A quiet and respectful Conor would sell far fewer PPVs.
Yeah I think both should share the blame personally. I don't normally follow mma so was not aware of that as it wasn't really mainstream like the bus incident.
If you aren't trying to excuse the thug actions tonight then why even bring up an incident that has already been litigated and consequences faced? This just happened. Obviously everyone is going to be talking more about the thug like criminal behavior that just happened rather than months old news that has already been handled legally.
Definitely not to the same degree, almost blinding someone and possibly worse is not the same as kicking someone.
But do you agree that McGregor calling Khabib backward is a bit rich coming from Connor if we know how he showed his basic nature when he restored to physical attack and had endangered / injured innocent people when he threw that dolly on the bus just because he doesn't like Khabib and Khabib was in it?
Both parties involved should be blamed for tonight's events, it didn't just happen out of blue, it was just a culmination of months of insults, attacks, violence.
Wow.
I've already explained that I could have chosen my words better, but at the same time, Khabib was the instigator and therefore it's natural to suggest his team are the aggressors.
But as I said before, point taken.
They are a pair of idiots who watch too many action movies. I think Khabib should be punished by the athletic commission but to see the UFC (Dana) discuss stripping the belt and feigning some form of moral outrage is so hypocritical. This is the same company that chose to use the bus footage in every promo for the last two months, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see that Dillon Danis was offered a UFC contract tomorrow and booked to fight Khabib. Conor will probably make another 30 million and go back to boxing unless he rematches Hollaway at 145, it took his teammate being attacked for him to find the motivation to take this fight and I just can't see him having the motivation to go and fight contenders.
Moving forward it is going to be really interesting to see who if anyone can beat Khabib, Lee and Ferguson will be fun fights at 155. I think Tyron beats him handily at 170. I would have talked about GSP but after last nights incident I just can't imagine GSP wanting to get involved in that.
Moving forward it is going to be really interesting to see who if anyone can beat Khabib, Lee and Ferguson will be fun fights at 155. I think Tyron beats him handily at 170. I would have talked about GSP but after last nights incident I just can't imagine GSP wanting to get involved in that.
I understand how they sell a fight, but even taking that into account, you dont behave like he does unless you are a genuine twat.
This is the problem. It's ok to sell fewer PPVs.
Dana is a piece of shit as he puts his own bottom line ahead of athlete safety and maintaining a respectable sport.
His manager was part of an extremist outfit who have committed acts of terrorism and then turned informant to the FBI. He has an incredibly shady past all round.
Because actions have consequences and what happened tonight was a direct consequence of mcgregor and how ufc handles him.
I just get the feeling that neither are particularly bright.
No, I don't agree at all. Conor was already blamed and faced the consequences from his actions months ago.
Tonight team khabib are the violent thugs. They need to face the consequences directly for their actions.
No but the kicking someone led to a mass brawl, which is why Khabib will likely recieve a pretty heavy punishment. It would have been one thing if Khabib just hit Danis backstage but the commission will see this as him endangering the people in the crowd too.
But yeah, despite what White said McGregor should certainly have recieved a suspension along with his actual arrest. You could argue that letting his antics slide for so long fed into this.
Yeah the whataboutism is remarkable. Like conor being a scumbag somehow excuses all scumbag behavior from team khabib
No one excuses anything. Khabib and his team were acting like thugs and created a situation where people's life and welfare could have been in danger. The whole thing should be thoroughly investigated and the guilty parties should be punished accordingly.
I'm just trying to look at what happened tonight not as a separate incident but rather a consequence of what was going on in a build up to the actual fight because it has a lot to with that current mess.
Yeah humanity would definitely be better in the long run if neither of them breed
What consequences? He would have, and should have been in jail now, if it wasn't for his well-paid lawyers and money he's making for Dana White.
Didn’t the FBI then stop using him as an informant as they didn’t trust him.
I think the “mad backwards cnut” for not drinking line is more offensive to the religion itself than calling someone with the manager’s history a terrorist, but then I’m not Muslim.
Too late.
I would have thought that a third Diaz fight would make more sense. It would be a big fight, it's one he knows he can win and it would get some momentum back on his side if he wants to keep going after that.
He’ll pay a lot in civil litigation settlements I’m sure. Hopefully
I have to disagree on that sir. I can't stand hearing him talk absolute drivel.
Than I'm curious why you think Khabib did what he did, attacking a particular member of McGregor's crew when he never did anything like that before and he had a crapload of fights.
That's a separate issue. Rich don't pay the same consequences as poor people in the US. I already mentioned that if poor folks of brown skin had done what team khabib did tonight they would still be in jail not released like the very rich team khabib. team khabib is absolutely going to end up benefiting from the exact same wealth and influence as Mcgregor did. They already have tonight.
He will definitely get a visa. What Conor did was far worse yet he got a visa and he they used it to promote him. No matter what Dana says he will be rubbing his hands with glee with the money he will make off this. Khabib will get a fine and nothing more. If they went all out and banned him it'd only be a small ban. He will certainly fight.
I just don't see how his persona works in a division where he is unlikely to ever be able to beat the champion. The whole act was cringeworthy enough already but how could he walk around now and call himself pound for pound number 1.
If I was him I would go and be the face of Zuffa boxing and fight a load of cans whilst pocketing cash.