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The ref himself didn't care (he said he's known Conor for years and don't want to take it anywhere) and I'd imagine Bellator were happy for the press coverage. They even invited him back.
Then it's all good.

Conor hasn't pressed charges tonight so clearly he doesn't want to take it anywhere either, so it's all good.

Fwiw, I wouldn't expect a referee to want to get physical with a professional MMA fighter.
 
We will see what happens, when all the evidence is laid out. UFC will be able to back down on that statement when they realize Conor sucker punched a guy sitting on the fence which set the whole shit show off.

He hit a guy on the fence who appeared to be heading to join his teammate in attacking McGregor's team. Khabib started the shit show by jumping out of the cage and attacking Dillon Danis, everything else spiralled from that.
 
But who's to be the judge and say which customs and believes are superior or better than the other ones?

Any reasonable person.

No reasonable person has any difficulty determining that the things you listed such as " talking shit about someone's family gets you hurt or even killed in some cases" are barbaric relics of a long gone age and should only be historic artifacts.

As Dana White just said, talking shit happens in every sport and if these thugs can't adhere to the rules of civilization they should just be jailed as they are dangerous to civilized human beings.
 
It’s a joke that McGregor has been given his cheque and Khabib not. McGregor threw the first post-fight punch inside the octagon. All cheques should’ve been withheld pending further investigation. White protecting his man again. A joke.

As far as I'm aware it has nothing to do with White, it's the commission's decision.
 
He hit a guy on the fence who appeared to be heading to join his teammate in attacking McGregor's team. Khabib started the shit show by jumping out of the cage and attacking Dillon Danis, everything else spiralled from that.

Conor jumped out of the cage to attack Aldo.

Conor jumped into the cage to put hands on a ref.

Nobody knows yet if Khabib actually attacked anyone, since the video only shows Khabib and Danis separated by an army of security guards. The video doesn't really look like the guy is heading out, maybe he is heading out of the cage, and how do you know what his intent was? To help Khabib? To restrain him?

The only cut and dry situation was Conor sucker punching the guy, which set off ALL the shit inside the cage.
 
He can’t even go into Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan or Belarus bc of getting arrested for assaulting homeless people, fam wont be able to go nowhere if he keeps acting like this. Wonder what next country will be
 
Yeah he really should be, the sport doesn't need this type of shit. Not sure White will be too keen on having Khabib and his entourage involved again if they act like this.
Lines are being crossed from 'show' to real here and that's more the issue than anything, I think. There's real intent and bad mindedness behind the actions that can incite riots and I bet there'll be some issues between Irish and Russian fans in Vegas tonight off the back of this. I think the UFC love the WWE stuff, to a degree, but once if goes beyond a certain point, they have to be seen to act and make examples of people. Khabib might be a great in the ring, but he's not a cash cow the organisation will back indefinitely like a Jones, Brock or Conor.
Unless they did something illegal within the match itself, how can you disqualify someone from a match that is already over?
You're bringing the sport into disrepute as its champion, and representative, at the peak viewership it has ever seen in front of a worldwide audience. This isn't the same as stupidity on a personal level, which, first and foremost is for the police to deal with. Although, you could well argue that criminal charges and considerations should be brought against Khabib and his entourage for such stupidity, just as they were for Conor with his dolly idiocy.
Maybe you're right. Khabib should've just thrown stuff at him during a press conference or something. He'd probably get away with that
You can get away with far more pre-fight than post fight - you see fighters do a lot of dumb shit at face-offs and conferences that would be DQ-worthy post fight. It's not right, but literally everyone in the sport knows what the deal is with it, which is why we do not see mental post-fight actions unless a fighter really has lost his mind.
Dana acting like a rematch may not happen.
acting being the operative word. He'll be figuring out how to monetise everything that has happened tonight. There'll be losers from the fallout, Dana and crew won't be one of them.
 
Any reasonable person.

No reasonable person has any difficulty determining that the things you listed such as " talking shit about someone's family gets you hurt or even killed in some cases" are barbaric relics of a long gone age and should only be historic artifacts.

As Dana White just said, talking shit happens in every sport and if these thugs can't adhere to the rules of civilization they should just be jailed as they are dangerous to civilized human beings.

In all honesty any reasonable person should not be insulting someone's family in order to provoke a reaction, right?
 
feck off did Conor try to attack Aldo.
Believing that is worse than what Khabib did tonight!
 
Lines are being crossed from 'show' to real here and that's more the issue than anything, I think. There's real intent and bad mindedness behind the actions that can incite riots and I bet there'll be some issues between Irish and Russian fans in Vegas tonight off the back of this. I think the UFC love the WWE stuff, to a degree, but once if goes beyond a certain point, they have to be seen to act and make examples of people. Khabib might be a great in the ring, but he's not a cash cow the organisation will back indefinitely like a Jones, Brock or Conor.

You're bringing the sport into disrepute as its champion, and representative, at the peak viewership it has ever seen in front of a worldwide audience. This isn't the same as stupidity on a personal level, which, first and foremost is for the police to deal with. Although, you could well argue that criminal charges and considerations should be brought against Khabib and his entourage for such stupidity, just as they were for Conor with his dolly idiocy.

You can get away with far more pre-fight than post fight - you see fighters do a lot of dumb shit at face-offs and conferences that would be DQ-worthy post fight. It's not right, but literally everyone in the sport knows what the deal is with it, which is why we do not see mental post-fight actions unless a fighter really has lost his mind.
acting being the operative word. He'll be figuring out how to monetise everything that has happened tonight. There'll be losers from the fallout, Dana and crew won't be one of them.

It happened after the fight had ended. You cant disqualify someone for that.
 
The transformation into wwe is complete

That was a good work, should build to a good 5 on 5 at survivor series with Conor and khabib as captains
 
Conor jumped out of the cage to attack Aldo.

Conor jumped into the cage to put hands on a ref.
He didn't attack Aldo ffs! He jumped out of the cage, stopped short of Aldo so he could mouth off and promote a fight. Aldo knew this was no "attack" which is why he just stood there laughing at Conor.

Conor is a moron but he didn't attack Aldo or that ref in Bellator.
 
He didn't attack Aldo ffs! He jumped out of the cage, stopped short of Aldo so he could mouth off and promote a fight. Aldo knew this was no "attack" which is why he just stood there laughing at Conor.

Conor is a moron but he didn't attack Aldo or that ref in Bellator.

Well he was shoving that ref in a pretty aggressive manner tbh, and he did it few times as well.
 
Conor jumped out of the cage to attack Aldo.

Conor jumped into the cage to put hands on a ref.

Nobody knows yet if Khabib actually attacked anyone, since the video only shows Khabib and Danis separated by an army of security guards. The video doesn't really look like the guy is heading out, maybe he is heading out of the cage, and how do you know what his intent was? To help Khabib? To restrain him?

The only cut and dry situation was Conor sucker punching the guy, which set off ALL the shit inside the cage.

How is Khabib jumping out of the cage not a cut and dry situation? It's clearly what started everything and that's how I'm quite sure the Nevada commission will view it too.

You're right, we have no way of knowing what the guy on the cage was going to do and neither did McGregor. Unfortunately when someone jumps out of the cage to attack people then things spiral to the point where people make assumptions. Which is exactly why Khabib will likely be punished heavily for instigating the brawl. It's not just about what he did as far as the commision are concerened, it's also about what he could have sparked among the crowd.

Also Danis was apparently staggering as he was lead away, so someone hurt him. There were enough people around for yhe commision to find out if that was Khabib.

The McGregor stuff is rather irrelevant as a) I'm not defending McGregor's previous actions, b) he didn't actually get to Aldo and c) as I recall there was no state commision involved in the Bellator incident so it isn't a precedent for how this will likely be handled.
 
It happened after the fight had ended. You cant disqualify someone for that.
You actually seem to believe this as you've reiterated it more than once. That's not how DQ's work. You're not just exempt because the fight is over.
 
In all honesty any reasonable person should not be insulting someone's family in order to provoke a reaction, right?

Almost instigating a riot can't be justified by anything Conor said. It doesn't work like that. One person being a shithead pre-fight doesn't excuse or justify criminal shithead behavior after a fight in public. And lets not mince words because Dana White is right about how serious this is for team khabib. When the Nevada Governor is getting whisked out by security because of the chaos Team Khabib caused they very well could be facing criminal charges for inciting a riot in addition to surely getting sanctioned by the Nevada commission.
 
He didn't attack Aldo ffs! He jumped out of the cage, stopped short of Aldo so he could mouth off and promote a fight. Aldo knew this was no "attack" which is why he just stood there laughing at Conor.

Conor is a moron but he didn't attack Aldo or that ref in Bellator.

I said to attack. He also absolutely did put hands on the ref. Conor also said he would have killed Khabib if Khabib got off the bus. How do you know Conor didn't intend to attack Jose? He stopped because of security. Is there any footage yet of Khabib assaulting anyone besides Conor? All I've seen is Khabib and Danis separated by an army of security.