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Nucks said:
Stipe came out hard in the first minute. Tried to impose his will. Didn't really accomplish anything. He's always had a pretty suspect gas tank. DC held his own during the burst, and began to get the better of him as the fight went on. Was landing more, and bigger shots. Stipe made one more burst, then the eye poke.

I didn't expect him to knock him out in the first. But I expected this go down basically like the first round was trending. Stipe with a burst, then DC comes into the round, pushes the tempo, and takes over the round. I was expecting a 3 round + KO or decision tbh.
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Yeah, was impressed with DCs left jab, lots of snap and was making a mess of Stipe’s face.

Still felt Stipe had more obvious power and DC was shaking his head after a few shots which is normally a sign your not enjoying yourself.

Still, so sloppy in the clinch from Stipe, he had to expect that would be DCs best weapon outside of the wrestling.

That WWE Raw skit ruined it for me though. Lesnar can feck off, thought Rogan was gonna swing for him when he fecked the mic into the camera.
 
Fairly calamatous week for the UFC

first the Holloway debacle
then Ngannou and Lewis stink up the place doing the waltz for 3 rounds
now we have deal with DC's annoying ass at HW

and final insult was Lesnar showing up with his WWE BS
 
Raoul said:
Fairly calamatous week for the UFC

first the Holloway debacle
then Ngannou and Lewis stink up the place doing the waltz for 3 rounds
now we have deal with DC's annoying ass at HW

and final insult was Lesnar showing up with his WWE BS
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Wait, you actually dislike DC?
 
DC’s a top cnut.

Can’t imagine how anyone who’s watched him fight, commentate or mentor on Tuf couldn’t come to the conclusion he’s a legend.
 
Nucks said:
Weird. He seems like a genuine, genuinely nice guy. Do you just dislike that he is a nice guy or something? :)
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He's a very nice guy, which isn't particularly appealing from a fans point of view. We want a bit of complexity, darkness, and a mean streak
 
So DC holds up the Light heavyweight division to fight Brock?
Light heavyweight already has a legitimacy problem with DC being awarded the title after a loss, having it not be defended for a year is a blow to the division
 
So pleased for DC. While the Lesnar thing was a bit cringeworthy, I can understand why DC would want to go out with a big payday. Hopefully he defends his LHW title first.
 
Jumped out my seat and raised my arms when Stipe went down, must like DC more than I expected. Good for him, Stipe will be back unless Jones decides to step up as well.

That Lesnar thing although I want to see that fight the whole fake promo thing was just weird. Don’t need to sell the fight, I’m already hooked in.

The fight I was most looking forward to was Lewis vs Nganou and it was a total suck fest. Understand it’s heavyweights and 1 mistake and it’s night over but they didn’t even try to force a mistake. Just rubbish.
 
cyberman said:
So DC holds up the Light heavyweight division to fight Brock?
Light heavyweight already has a legitimacy problem with DC being awarded the title after a loss, having it not be defended for a year is a blow to the division
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I don't see DC going back to LHW anytime soon. My guess is he vacates in the next few weeks and they make Gus v Oezdemir a title fight. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if the Brock fight is DC's last.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
I don't see DC going back to LHW anytime soon. My guess is he vacates in the next few weeks and they make Gus v Oezdemir a title fight. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if the Brock fight is DC's last.
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Lesnar is still 6 months away from being allowed to compete, so I reckon DC will be looking to schedule that fight in Feb or March next year. That gives him time for another fight between then. While he has said he could defend LHW before then, the way he was speaking in the post-fight press conference, he just doesn't see a worthy enough fight in that division. Could go either way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him vacate.
 
Globule said:
Lesnar is still 6 months away from being allowed to compete, so I reckon DC will be looking to schedule that fight in Feb or March next year. That gives him time for another fight between then. While he has said he could defend LHW before then, the way he was speaking in the post-fight press conference, he just doesn't see a worthy enough fight in that division. Could go either way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him vacate.
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I read it's pencilled in for November at MSG.
 
Globule said:
Lesnar is still 6 months away from being allowed to compete, so I reckon DC will be looking to schedule that fight in Feb or March next year. That gives him time for another fight between then. While he has said he could defend LHW before then, the way he was speaking in the post-fight press conference, he just doesn't see a worthy enough fight in that division. Could go either way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him vacate.
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DC can't go up and down weight in his forties, especially 3 times in 6 months.
How many towels would he need to lean on if he went down to LHW again?
 
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Yeah no way DC fights at LHW again at his age, and his previous struggle with cutting weight.
Ngannou hype train has ended quickly.
 
DC is the man. Definitely a top 5 all time great in my opinion. Shows both DC and Jones could have destroyed the HW division long ago if they'd wanted to. A big gulf in class.

Less said about Ngannou the better. We might not be seeing him ever again, that's how tragic it was.
 
I still can't get over how shit that Ngannou vs Lewis fight was. Will we see Ngannou again?
As for DC, he's not fighting LHW again. He fights Lesnar and retires IMO.
Must be hard for Jones to sit down and watch DC take everything he could have had. I hope if he does come back it's at HW just to pump some life into a fading division.
 
The Ngannou-Lewis debacle worked out very nicely for Curtis Blaydes and Alexander Volkov, who will simply slide up the rankings into title contention, after the DC-Lesnar circus is done. Win or lose DC will likely feck off into retirement and Lesnar will take his suitcase of cash and feck off back to WWE. That will leave Stipe, Volkov, Blaydes, Ngannou, and Lewis to pick up the pieces after the circus is over.
 
Ballache said:
I still can't get over how shit that Ngannou vs Lewis fight was. Will we see Ngannou again?
As for DC, he's not fighting LHW again. He fights Lesnar and retires IMO.
Must be hard for Jones to sit down and watch DC take everything he could have had. I hope if he does come back it's at HW just to pump some life into a fading division.
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I honestly feel it'll be harder for DC knowing he could never beat Jones.
 
So is your spelling of his name.

Seriously though, he's fallen off a cliff massively. Will be difficult for him to come back after that.
 
I figure DC has 2 fights left in him. He's said he wants to retire at 40, so, that's ~9 months till he is 40, and then 12 months where he is 40. The weight issue isn't really an issue IMO. DC didn't put on muscle, he just didn't lean his diet out during his camp. I'd expect, he will fight Lesnar and defend the LHW belt. Not sure in which order. He was 40 pounds over 205, and he is going to be cutting 15-20 pounds of water weight to make 205. Which means he is really only dealing with about 20 pounds of fat. DC isn't a big water cutter, due to issues he had at the end of his wrestling career. However, the weight he came into the fight at, is basically his fat and happy walk around weight.

You know, however, that Jones is going to seriously consider going to HW now that DC did it and took the strap. When Jones comes back, there is nothing left for him at LHW. DC will most likely be retired, and the only thing for Jones to do, is to go to HW and try his luck there, and one up DC.
 
Lesnar can't fight at least till January, so maybe one LHW defence in between is possible.

The thing is, who would be a worthy challenger for DC at LHW? he cleaned up the division.

Oezdemir and Gustaffson fight each other next, but both have been handled by DC, and neither can sell a PPV for shit.

Shogun Rua is on a 3-0 streak and fighting Anthony Smith. A 4-0 record could place him on a title shot, and although its probably an easy fight for DC, it might sell better.

I hope he defends it at least once, but if he decides he wants to stay at Heavyweight for his remaining days, so be it.
 
George Owen said:
Lesnar can't fight at least till January, so maybe one LHW defence in between is possible.

The thing is, who would be a worthy challenger for DC at LHW? he cleaned up the division.

Oezdemir and Gustaffson fight each other next, but both have been handled by DC, and neither can sell a PPV for shit.

Shogun Rua is on a 3-0 streak and fighting Anthony Smith. A 4-0 record could place him on a title shot, and although its probably an easy fight for DC, it might sell better.

I hope he defends it at least once, but if he decides he wants to stay at Heavyweight for his remaining days, so be it.
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DC said Gustafson fight is possible.
 
Out of these 4 possible scenarios - Stipe KO, Stipe decision, Cormier KO, Cormier decision.

I'd have said Cormier winning by KO was the least likely. Crazy.
 
I bet UFC work around USADA and make the Brock fight happen in November then have Jones come back as DC final fight whether it be at LHW or HW.

Then DC finally beats Jones and rides off into the sunset.

Then a film is made about it.

DC - Wendell Pierce
Jones - Dave Chappell
 
George Owen said:
Lesnar can't fight at least till January, so maybe one LHW defence in between is possible.

The thing is, who would be a worthy challenger for DC at LHW? he cleaned up the division.

Oezdemir and Gustaffson fight each other next, but both have been handled by DC, and neither can sell a PPV for shit.

Shogun Rua is on a 3-0 streak and fighting Anthony Smith. A 4-0 record could place him on a title shot, and although its probably an easy fight for DC, it might sell better.

I hope he defends it at least once, but if he decides he wants to stay at Heavyweight for his remaining days, so be it.
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If he goes back down to LHW then it has to be the Gus rematch for me. First fight was very close.
 
I'd be shocked to see DC fight before the Lesnar fight, I'd say close to no chance. He made it clear last night in his interviews that with him only having 1-2 fights left he wants them to be big money fights. Brock Lesnar next and then IMO he will fight Jon Jones one final time in an attempt to finish his story and career by overcoming his biggest rival once and for all (granted Jones can compete next year).

Hopefully DC starts getting the credit he deserves. If not for the Jones losses there'd be a super strong argument for him being the greatest ever. Even with those losses he's right up there.
 
:lol: Just finished watching the event. That was really the night the ufc turned into the wwe. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
Nucks said:
Stipe came out hard in the first minute. Tried to impose his will. Didn't really accomplish anything. He's always had a pretty suspect gas tank. DC held his own during the burst, and began to get the better of him as the fight went on. Was landing more, and bigger shots. Stipe made one more burst, then the eye poke.

I didn't expect him to knock him out in the first. But I expected this go down basically like the first round was trending. Stipe with a burst, then DC comes into the round, pushes the tempo, and takes over the round. I was expecting a 3 round + KO or decision tbh.
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Somehow i think Stipe took this lightly and did a Klitschko vs Sanders on this one. He seemed far from the intelligent strategic fighter he was against Ngannou. He came in with no defence, just kept walking into DC and didn't give him the respect he deserved. I still Miocic is the more dangerous fighter and he could have retained his belts with a different approach.

Anyway, looks like Lesnar is in with a chance. The size difference between him and DC is huge. Wonder what on earth will go down.
 
Surely DC wouldn't want his last fight to be against Jones? While I imagine he would like the shot at righting his record, would he risk all the drama that comes when the two of them get near each other?

Also, if it's at heavyweight I would give him a better chance, but Jones would still be the favourite if there is no ring rust.
 
Raoul said:
Fairly calamatous week for the UFC

first the Holloway debacle
then Ngannou and Lewis stink up the place doing the waltz for 3 rounds
now we have deal with DC's annoying ass at HW

and final insult was Lesnar showing up with his WWE BS
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I mean that's one way of looking at it but I doubt they see it like that.

DC can sell a fight with Lesnar much better than Sitpe could cos he has far more charisma and personality. Stipe comes in and does the bare minimum promotion wise so I'm sure they're pretty happy with the outcome. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it's probably their preferred choice. I agree the end was cringing (though I did find it quite funny to) but the reality is it iwll generate huge interest and DC played his part. The UFC is basically guarenteed a 1million + PPV after this card so I don't know what that made the conclusion of the week calamitous for them really. Reading the other posts it seems you personally don't like it cos you find DC annoying and don't like this kind of promotion....that's your opinion and fair enough but the UFC (and other fans etc) don't have to share that opinion that this makes it calamitous.

The Ngannou vs. Lewis fight was probably the worst fight I've seen from fighters of that level. Both should be embarrassed by it and both sohuld be no where near a title shot. I don't know what Ngannou does from here it does seem a mental problem more than anything after the Stipe fight. They should of given him a couple lower ranked fights to build his confidence back up really, it's hard to see what happens from here.
 
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