Although when he finished Barboza, there was a horrible illegal shot that changed the flow of the fight if I remember right...?
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yep there was an illegal upkick (1 point deduction), but Barboza recovered completely and came back kicking ass (for a while).
Ok. Miocic v Ngannou!
Heart says Ngannou, but head says Miocic. He is very smart operator and will fight conservatively. UD for the lad from Cleveland.
Heart says Ngannou, but head says Miocic. He is very smart operator and will fight conservatively. UD for the lad from Cleveland.
Got Ngannou by decapitation.
Lol. If Miocic presses Francis then he could get 'Overeemed'.
Is that a new rule? I'm sure upkicks used to be a regular feature of MMA. Why are they banned anyway? What makes them more dangerous than any other kick?
I don't think the up-kick was the issue - its the general act of kicking an opponent when they still have one or both hands on the ground.
One of those stupid rules i guess, like the 12-6 elbow.
imagine the holly holm kick were illegal because Ronda had her hands down...
D'oh! Of course. Should have spotted that.
I should've said kicking an opponent in the head when they have one or more hands on the ground. You can obviously kick an opponent when they are down as long as its not in the head.
@Raoul what i mean is that Ronda having her hands down are the equivalent to a fighter having his hands on the ground. In both cases, the fighter fails to defend properly against a head kick and the result is the same.
That's a good point but that's not what the official rules stipulate. If Ronda had her hands down at any point it was because Holly was peppering her with punches and kicks leading up to where she dropped her hands leading up to the head kick ko. That's a perfectly fair kick for Holly.
UD is a brave call! Both have won their last four via KO in the first round. You never know in MMA, sometimes a great fight on paper can turn into a stinker but man this just has explosive finish written all over it.
This is where we find out if Ngannou is as legit as some are making out. Overeem was obviously a great win but I still see Overeem as a bit hit and miss. I genuinley cannot call this one. Ngannou has looked like an absolute monster at times but no way can you discount what Miocic has done over the last 2 or so years and how he's now taken out Hunt, Arlovski, Werdum, Overeem and JDS all one after the other by KO/TKO. So pumped for this.
It might have something to do with them not wanting soccer kicks to the head of a "downed" opponent. I either read that somewhere or heard it on some podcast but It may not be fully accurate.
No idea what's their reasoning.
@George Owen Mackenzie Dern is supposedly set to make her UFC debut at UFC 222 vs Ashley Yoder.
Either her stand up has gotten to a point where it’s good enough or they just think her Jits is so good it doesn’t really matter. Or maybe Dana is just thinking money money money off of her looks and marketing ability.
Watched her against Gabi Garcia recently and Christ, she looks like a baby compared to her. We are talking 280lb Gabi as well vs 116lb Dern and she wins
I think as long as they feed her average competition, she should do alright.
They definitely gonna do everything in their power to make her a star.
The only thing in the rules is no kicks or knees to the head of a grounded opponent.
- The following acts constitute fouls in a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts and may result in penalties, at the discretion of thereferee, if committed:
- Butting with the head
- Eye gouging of any kind
- Biting
- Spitting at an opponent
- Hair pulling
- Fish hooking
- Groin attacks of any kind
- Putting a finger into any orifice or any cut or laceration of an opponent
- Small joint manipulation
- Striking downward using the point of the elbow
- Striking to the spine or the back of the head
- Kicking to the kidney with a heel
- Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
- Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh
- Grabbing the clavicle
- Kicking the head of a grounded opponent
- Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent
- Stomping a grounded opponent
- Holding the fence
- Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent
- Using abusive language in fenced ring/fighting area
- Engaging in any unsportsmanlike conduct that causes injury to an opponent
- Attacking an opponent on or during the break
- Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee
- Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the round
- Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury
- Throwing opponent out of ring/fighting area
- Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee
- Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck
- Interference by the corner
- Applying any foreign substance to the hair or body to gain an advantage
I think as long as they feed her average competition, she should do alright.
They definitely gonna do everything in their power to make her a star.
Found this video package for people who don’t know who she is.
There is a girl in there who she has an omaplata and a rear naked choke on at the same time, she was in the recent 125 TUF and I think she got to the semi, she lost to the eventual winner in a blood bath if I recall. Striking still looks a bit suspect but I saw another video where many have told her to avoid going the Ronda route and stick to what you’re good at. Replied with something like I work on my striking to get me to a point but I’m wanting to choke you out, put you in an arm bar omaplata, whatever. Guy asked how she thought she’d do in a roll with Rousey. Says she’d love that but thought she’d tap her out at least 3 times in a 10 minute round.
Honestly can’t wait for her arrival as her Jits skills are beyond even some of the best practiconers of Jits in MMA. She is effectivly the Damian Mia of the woman’s division but yet she might even be better than he is.
Hopefully tho they won’t do what they did with PVZ and throw her in to fights she isn’t ready for. Although I think she’d take a few that are ranked in the top 5 out. Actually get her hand on any of them on the ground and there isn’t anyone she wouldn’t dominate.
All they need now is Kyra Gracie. Although I’m sure she has said she isn’t interested.
I’ve only ever seen her put that Twister on someone, having just seen her record tho and everyone bar 1 being a submission then yeah could be a fan favourite.Angela Lee would be awesome too.
@Raoul thought of another one who will probably go down to 125. Veronica Macedo. She is too small for 135 so I’d imagine she would go down. Some of her striking is insane, she has a risky Taikwando style but honestly watching her move across the ring and some of her kicks is a thing of beauty.
She looks pretty good. Agreed about her size as well.
McGregor is a southpaw a completely different type of striker to Barboza and a more effective striker as well, it's gotten him two belts. McGregor's striking is all about controling the distance, sharp, fast and being super precise. McGregor uses highly effective oblique kicks to keep his man at bay too. Those kicks are lethal to a gas tank. Many are saying Khabib is the worst possible opponent for McGregor, there could be a fair argument put forward for it being the other way around too.
He'd be Khabib's toughest opponent to date if he was to face him I'd guess but I dunno if it's his worst possible opponent really. I think Khabib is a potential nightmare for McGregor. I've had doubts about him in the past but he is the real deal. If I was him and Ferguson I'd completely ignore McGregor to be honest and try and face each other in a match up. McGregor probably wants the attention more than anything and htey'll give it him cos he's the biggest pay day they'll get. By completely overlooking him it kind of discredits his pathetic title reign.
The other fights were decent enough on the card, don't think it was a classic but was enjoyable. Not interested in the slightest who Cyborg faces next she's never interested me in the slightest.
Just watching the Miocic-Ngannou presser. Love DC, definitely one of the good guys ( when he's not trying to cut off the blood supply to your head!).
Listened to Dana's skype interview. He wants to apparently see if Conor is ready to fight by March or so. If he is then he would fight the Khabib/Tony winner (which I'm guessing would happen before that). If he isn't then Khabib and Tony will fight for the full LW belt and Conor will be beltless again.
He also wants Cyborg to fight Nunes next, which would be a hell of a fight.
He also wants Cyborg to fight Nunes next, which would be a hell of a fight.
If Tony and Khabib fight before a potential McGregor fight then that should be for the proper title. Conor isn’t injures he’s choosing not to fight and should be stripped of the title. Like has Been mentioned on twitter and by some fighters though they’re not stripping Conor whilst the tv deal is up in the air
So what he means is if Conor refuses to fight Tony then Tony will be stripped of the belt and will have to fight Khabib in a 'loser gets fired' match?
I'd say if Conor doesn't agree to fight by the summer then he will definitely be stripped. Absolutely pointless having a beltholder who refuses to defend.
Imagine this situation in any other sport. "Beg me to come back, get on your knees."
You aren't going to fulfill your obligations and defend? F*ck you. Stripped. The UFC is just as bad as boxing at this point.
You aren't going to fulfill your obligations and defend? F*ck you. Stripped. The UFC is just as bad as boxing at this point.
Doubt he'd be ready. The amount of videos going around of him lately off his face. I even wonder if he'd pass a drugs test. It's only a matter of time before he totally implodes.
They haven't got anyone who can near him in terms of PPVs. If they had a couple of Jones, Rousey or GSP around then they would have. They're afraid to do anything to him.
Oh, I understand that. They just have no credibility anymore. They used to be known as the organisation where the best fought the best consistently. No ducking, none of the bullshit that ruined boxing. Sad that it's no longer the case.
They can just move on without him then. PPV or not, the sport is far bigger than McGregor and will eventually replenish itself with new stars. No need to make a mockery of it all.
This could have been the case had it not been for the WME-IMG deal. Those investors will in no way want to risk losing Conor as they have already lost Ronda and GSP (possibly) and Jones... well we all know what happened to him.
Conor is their last current bankable star and they won't jeapordize that until another star is already made.
I'm sure they don't want to lose him but I'm also sure they won't be held hostage to his "I'm bigger than the UFC" antics either. He can be replaced by other stars if he continues to act like an infant.
Not until they, combined, generate the income Conor does.
Conor is actually bigger than the sport - and that's the beast Dana fed because he profited from it.
All his golden boy/girl ventures have come up spectacularly short and amongst the new wave, who do you think has genuine superstar potential?
If N'Gannou becomes the Tyson of the HW's, possibly him, but even he doesn't have much charisma and if you go through the divisions total packages are non-existent, as there's generally either great fighters who can't sell a fight on anything but their ability, or great talkers, who can't match the words that come out of their mouth. And in terms of charisma, well, who is there outside of Conor?
Even someone like Sonnen had the heel-like qualities that made people emote enough to want to watch him and/or listen to his blabber before a fight. Same goes for Bisping, who tried his hardest to sell himself and his fights, even if he came up short in the octagon.
Conor's got them by the balls and they know it. It'll take something extraordinary to happen for him to be stripped or not indulged whilst he holds his division to ransom, effectively.
And what other fights are there for the winner of that match-up? So limited value there
They’ll try and talk up Joshua, but he doesn’t need UFC fighters with Parker, Wilder, Fury out there for him