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It was a lovely morning, i won my morning footy game by a 10 goal difference, then we won vs Watford... then i read this bullshit.

So pissed right now. :mad:
I'm not a fan of bader but letting the to go was silly. They better get on their knees and pray that bones dont do nothing reckless
 
Unluckiest man in the sport...remarkable really, 5 fights fall through over a period of 24 months.
 
Unluckiest man in the sport...remarkable really, 5 fights fall through over a period of 24 months.
He has been cursed since his UFC debut

He came in as the favourite to win the flyweight tournament. He gave Mighty Mouse his hardest fight in the division. Due to a judging error the fight ended a draw, but the rules for that fight stated in the event of a draw it would go to another round.
 
The commentary without Goldberg is a bit meh....Anik is crap and DC and Rogan are cancelling eachother out.
 
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Ignoring the post bell snipes, quite the slugfest, especially the fifth.

And surely AnderGOAT just got away with robbery, I mean he looks solid for a 42 year old, but winner good? Hmm....

Make it a double robery given she should of been deducted at least a point. Thus a draw.
 
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One of the worst PPV's for a long time. Bad on paper and the fights didn't deliver either. Poirier vs Miller was a good scrap but that was about it.
 
Just checked results when i woke up, all fights went to decision`?
Glad i didn't sit up watching, and went straight to bed after work.
 
I even had Holm winning that without any point deduction. Felt quite bad for her

Anderson didn't win that fight but I was still happy. It was nice to see him pick up a win again

But yes very poor Ppv. Jacare vs Botcsch was a mis-match
 
Terrible PPV.

I think Holm can complain about the referee and hve a point but equally she looked poor for me I dunno where she goes from here to be honest. She at the moment will be remembered for 1 big win in MMA and then being pretty underwhelming in nearly every other fight she had (before and after Rousey, arguably the the exception of the Tate fight.)
 
Disgraceful referee in the Holm fight, Randamie should have had points deducted for both of the rounds.
"Protect yourselves at all times"

Thats includes on and after the horn. Someone needs to let Rogan know too. He was embarrassing himself on commentary.

Would have been stupidly harsh to take a point especially as on both occasions she was in the middle of a flurry. Radamie even tried to pull the punch in the second incident.
 
"Protect yourselves at all times"

Thats includes on and after the horn. Someone needs to let Rogan know too. He was embarrassing himself on commentary.

Would have been stupidly harsh to take a point especially as on both occasions she was in the middle of a flurry. Radamie even tried to pull the punch in the second incident.

I'll give you that the first incident could be seen as mid flurry (ie she was already committed to the punch) but the second involved three or four punches after the bell had gone. The bell isn't an indicator to finish what you are in the middle of it is a call to stop all action immediately (they have a 10 second warning to alert them as well). One punch is understandable, more than one is simply taking the piss and intentional or not is a clear breach of the rules.

As for the rest of the card:
The Silva decision was a joke, unanimous as well!
I've taken a strong dislike to Randamie, not only for the after the bell antics but because she started sh*t talking about being a brawler and yet spent almost the entirety of the fight counter sniping and not initiating. I dislike Cyborg as well but hope to see her brutalise Randamie at some point in the future.
It's the first time I remember seeing Sasaki but I thought he looked like an interesting fighter. In spite of the loss I think we'll see a bit of entertainment from him if he sticks around.
 
Apparently Holm and her reps are looking at their options in terms of possibly getting the two late shots added to the points
 
Apparently Holm and her reps are looking at their options in terms of possibly getting the two late shots added to the points

nah they are crazy, total waste of time... I doubt they go ahead with that.

They should accept the loss and move on and think how to avoid being 0-4 after the next fight. Probably go back to 135 and fight some tin can.
 
John McCarthy has said she should not have been deducted points and that it was the ref who was at fault

The fighters are only meant to stop when the ref says so and not to the buzzer
 
John McCarthy has said she should not have been deducted points and that it was the ref who was at fault

The fighters are only meant to stop when the ref says so and not to the buzzer

He said she should or should not have been ? The ref was clearly at fault and basically cost Holm the fight since a point deduction would've resulted in a draw.
 
He said she should or should not have been ? The ref was clearly at fault and basically cost Holm the fight since a point deduction would've resulted in a draw.

His point was that the round ends when the referee ends the round not when the buzzer sounds. She never punched around the referee ala Gadelha vs Joanna. The ref was late reacting to the buzzer and therefore late to end the round.
 
John McCarthy has said she should not have been deducted points and that it was the ref who was at fault

The fighters are only meant to stop when the ref says so and not to the buzzer
He's right. I remember him saying this before so I'm glad he's come out again and said it.

Fighters don't always hear the bell because they might be rocked, caught up in an exchange or just too focused on looking for openings to hit. So its on fighters to make sure they stay protected until their opponent registers the bell and stops or the ref steps in to signal the end of the round.

It's fecking stupid to think the bell means you can drop your hands and stick your chin in the air. And Rogan is a knob for his biased commentary on both incidents.

Randamie gets a pass from me on both occasions. The first she's throws a jab just before the bell, Holly chin opens up and a cross is thrown which lands after the bell. The second incident has them both in an exchange and Randamie pulls the last punch so it doesn't land.
 
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He's right. I remember him saying this before so I'm glad he's come out again and said it.

Fighters don't always hear the bell because they might be rocked, caught up in an exchange or just too focused on looking for openings to hit. So its on fighters to make sure they stay protected until their opponent registers the bell and stops or the ref steps in to signal the end of the round.

It's fecking stupid to think the bell means you can drop your hands and stick your chin in the air. And Rogan is a knob for his biased commentary on both incidents.

Randamie gets a pass from me on both occasions. The first she's throws a jab just before the bell, Holly chin opens up and a cross is thrown which lands after the bell. The second incident has them both in an exchange and Randamie pulls the last punch so it doesn't land.

I get the impression fighters know precisely when the round is going to end - based on the sound that comes at 10 seconds, the screaming of their coaches/teammates, and then the actual bell itself. In the first incident at the end of round 2, both fighters were "relaxing" in the clinch with full knowledge the bell was seconds away. Having just watched it again, De Randamie knew exactly what she was doing. She literally hit Holm nearly an entire second after the bell. That is completely unacceptable. Both De Randamie and the ref are at fault - one for the after the bell punch and the other for not giving a warning.

The 2nd one was not as pronounced but when factored in from the incident in the previous round, it was enough for a point deduction. Horrible reffing.
 
I get the impression fighters know precisely when the round is going to end - based on the sound that comes at 10 seconds, the screaming of their coaches/teammates, and then the actual bell itself. In the first incident at the end of round 2, both fighters were "relaxing" in the clinch with full knowledge the bell was seconds away. Having just watched it again, De Randamie knew exactly what she was doing. She literally hit Holm nearly an entire second after the bell. That is completely unacceptable. Both De Randamie and the ref are at fault - one for the after the bell punch and the other for not giving a warning.

The 2nd one was not as pronounced but when factored in from the incident in the previous round, it was enough for a point deduction. Horrible reffing.
it makes no difference. Marc Goddard has now also agreed with McCarthy. Its all on the ref and no points should be deducted

McCarthy -

“The round officially ends at the call of the referee. The bell is their notification. It is actually for the corner people to get ready for the break. It does help the referee in knowing when the round should end.”

Marc Goddard echoed a similar statement, responding to UFC vet Dan Hardy, who said:

“I don’t believe it’s the fighters responsibility to listen for the bell. There is a lot going on in there. It’s easy to miss it.”

Marc Goddard responded by saying:

“Correct Mr. Hardy, In vast majority they do hear and respond, but it’s up to us as refs to audibly, physically stop.”
 
it makes no difference. Marc Goddard has now also agreed with McCarthy. Its all on the ref and no points should be deducted

McCarthy -

“The round officially ends at the call of the referee. The bell is their notification. It is actually for the corner people to get ready for the break. It does help the referee in knowing when the round should end.”

Marc Goddard echoed a similar statement, responding to UFC vet Dan Hardy, who said:

“I don’t believe it’s the fighters responsibility to listen for the bell. There is a lot going on in there. It’s easy to miss it.”

Marc Goddard responded by saying:

“Correct Mr. Hardy, In vast majority they do hear and respond, but it’s up to us as refs to audibly, physically stop.”

Obviously the ref wasn't going to deduct points after he himself failed to do his job of getting between the fighters. Still bad reffing. And to think it happened twice is inexcusable.
 
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Happy that George is coming back but surely they aren't going to do Bisping vs St-Pierre (if he comes back at 185) and leave Romero and Jacare in the dark?

nah, i don't think he goes for the middleweight title shot. Romero has been confirmed as next in line, and although Dana is a fecking liar, i really doubt it will happen.

Georges should have an easy and marketable fight coming back. Someone like Nick Diaz or Anderson Silva and then wait for the winner of Maia vs Woodley/Wonderboy. (Robbie Lawler or Jorge Masvidal also would be fun fights... but maybe too tough to come back to that)

ps. If someone is getting leapfrogged, it's gonna be Maia... =(
 
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I actually like the new commentary set up to an extent. Rogan always had complete control of the narrative, he could convince an entire audience the fight was going completely different to how it actually was. With another "expert" in there we're going to get a much more balanced and accurate view of what's going on, we get more knowledgeable opinions and observations on the technical aspects of the fight. It might not be for the more casual fan whereby you need the commentary to make the fight more exciting, but I was quite engaged in listening to them discuss the fights.
 
nah, i don't think he goes for the middleweight title shot. Romero has been confirmed as next in line, and although Dana is a fecking liar, i really doubt it will happen.

Georges should have an easy and marketable fight coming back. Someone like Nick Diaz or Anderson Silva and then wait for the winner of Maia vs Woodley/Wonderboy. (Robbie Lawler or Jorge Masvidal also would be fun fights... but maybe too tough to come back to that)

ps. If someone is getting leapfrogged, it's gonna be Maia... =(
100% agree. Silva fight makes the most sense to me. At the end of the day GSP is 35 and hasn't stepped foot in the octagon for over three years. He's still in phenomenal shape and has hardly stopped training but we've seen what ring rust does to fighters. It's not good to be this inactive and then jump into the deep end. Silva looked slow and old to me on Saturday and the fight would probably still do a lot of PPV buys. Then if GSP looks good and wins he can fight the winner of Woodley and Wonderboy or go the middleweight route but it's more likely he would fight for the welterweight belt. Poor Maia though if that happens.
 
Anyone catch the Crowder episode from Rogans podcast?
He's more or less the face of the UFC and he produces an unprofessional shitshow like that.
Everything you hate about a bad argument is on show. The bullying was through the roof, he's even had to issue an apology over it.