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Why would they give him a stake and say he doesn't have to still fight??
Ah yes, that's a point.
Why would they give him a stake and say he doesn't have to still fight??
Ah yes, that's a point.
Just reading a bunch of idiots claiming McGregor to be the GOAT because he's the first two weight champion. Let's not forget, he talked his way into the first title shot, beating Dennis fecking Siver. fair enough he won it emphatically. He then decisively lost to Nate, then got an undeserving rematch and scraped a decision and then gets the second title shot. If the UFC took this precedence with other fighters, there would be multiple two weight champions. Heck they denied Aldo the chance to fight Pettis for LW title when he was FW champion...
I'm not a McGregor hater, I can't stand him at press conferences but respect him as a fighter and entertainer (when it's not too forced) but some people bang on about him so much, it just irritates me.
Yes he's done a lot but he also got a lot of help from the UFC. Let's not forget that.
Amusing to see BT sport apologizing for a few words when they had just shown close up replays of blood pissing out of Weidman's head after it was nearly kneed to the moon.
He beat Holloway, Brandao, Poirier, Siver and Mendes to get his shot at Aldo. He did a bit more than just talk, he earned the shot by beating most of the top guys in the division.
In Weidman's case, it seems like he had a new cnut kicked(well, kneed) into the side of his head.Yes we would like to apologise to any children who stayed up until 5 in the morning watching grown men in their pants punching and kicking the cnut out of each other. We do hope that the copious amounts of head trauma, concussions and blood gashing from their gaping wounds alleviated any of your concerns.
Look, we know the real reason he's getting these shots, talent my arse, he's been supplying Dana with imported proper Irish Taytos.never mind your facts my good man, what did he do when he got the title shot eh? Ok, Ok so he humiliated one of the best pound for pound fighters with a 10 year unbeaten champion. But so what he got lucky...
Sorry I meant easy route to title shot against Aldo until Aldo got replaced by mini Mendes. He beat Holloway, pretty unknown quantity then, not as vicious add he is now. Brandao is mediocre. Poirier was a decent win. Siver is a juiced up bumbaclut. that resume doesn't warrant a title shot when you look at other fighters streaks.He beat Holloway, Brandao, Poirier, Siver and Mendes to get his shot at Aldo. He did a bit more than just talk, he earned the shot by beating most of the top guys in the division.
In Weidman's case, it seems like he had a new cnut kicked(well, kneed) into the side of his head.
Look, we know the real reason he's getting these shots, talent my arse, he's been supplying Dana with imported proper Irish Taytos.
Sorry I meant easy route to title shot against Aldo until Aldo got replaced by mini Mendes. He beat Holloway, pretty unknown quantity then, not as vicious add he is now. Brandao is mediocre. Poirier was a decent win. Siver is a juiced up bumbaclut. that resume doesn't warrant a title shot when you look at other fighters streaks.
Regardless, the fact that Aldo wasnt allowed to fight for two titles but McGregor was says a lot to me...
Conor beats Khabib imo. Conor really fecks up wrestlers timing. They can't get within range and use their striking to set up the take down so every fight is fought standing up.
Khabib gets caught too easily, Conor would control distance and tee off on him until he falls.
You need to be a boxer to defeat Conor, he's walking through all these difficult wrestlers and yet struggled to doninate Diaz who loves to keep it standing.
Interesting scorecard.
You mean he doesn't intimidate you?!?
To be fair to him though he is good and worth watching. Talked up as the next big thing in UK MMA. Been calls for UFC to sign him and I think they did offer him a deal but he turned it down.
Looking forward to Paddy Pimblett
If he wins tonight he will surely be snapped up. Has potential to be a real personality too
a very bad decision.So what did you think? I was very unimpressed. Got the benefit of a really awful decision and should have been KTFO long before the end if his opponent had shown a bit more killer instinct. Yong and lernin' but on that performance he'd be eaten alive by any top UFC fighter.
Who else was there he could have fought? Edgar and thats about it, Edgar had a title shot in his featherweight debut the year before did he not, was that earned? So the UFC probably didn't want to push Edgar into the title scene so soon again, they needed another challenger for Aldo who had also recently beat Mendes.
McGregor came into the division, exciting fighter in the ring, entertaining outside it, beat everyone put in front of him. So it made sense to fast track him for the title.
What does it say though?
What it says to me is the UFC were and are probably not too fond of the idea of champions from different weight divisions fighting each other in general. It means one less title fight for them to headline a PPV if two champs are tied up in one fight.
They were never going to bend over backwards to give someone like Aldo the opportunity to win two titles, harsh but i don't blame them. Aldo was a great champion and is a great fighter, but he doesn't speak English or seem willing to learn, doesn't do much to promote his own fights, and continually pulled out of title fights leaving the UFC in the lurch and isn't that active a fighter either he's only had 6 fights in almost the last 4 years. Would he have been active in two divisions defending both belts had he won them, i doubt it.
McGregor on the other hand is pretty much the antithesis of Aldo he's a native English speaker, he promotes fights maybe better than anyone, never pulls out of a fight, and is a very active fighter with 10 UFC fights in just over 3.5 years. He's maybe the biggest star in MMA history so they made an exception for him to give him the chance to hold two titles.
a very bad decision.
Thought he looked OK for the 1st two rounds. And still very young, but he gassed badly. Also has been struggling to make weight in his last few fights and for a guy who looks like he should be bantham weight, that is a bad sign.
He will probably still find a way into the UFC purely because he is very marketable. I reckon one more fight in Cage Warriors and they will sign him in time for the next UK event
Doug Crosby is infamous
Often gives very questionable scores.
I dont know if you've forgot or are ignoring it but McGregor didn't fight a single top 5 fighter before getting the title shot (unless Poirier was... I can't remember). There was Cub Swanson, Ricardo Lamas, Chad Mendes and Frankie Edgar. Conor faced none of these guys and got a shot at the title... he beat a few guys, that were nowhere near the title shot themselves and talked a lot of shit. That's how he got his title shot... how can you not see that? And a lot of people when answering this point refer to Frankie Edgar getting undeserved shot... well I agree. Edgar's FW shot WAS bullshit and the fact that you bring it up as bullshit yet defend McGregor's shot is unbelievable. They were both undeserved shots.
As to the point I made about Aldo not getting the fight against Pettis... the thing I'm trying to hint at here is that Conor is the two-weight champ because the UFC allowed him. Had they allowed Aldo to move up in the past, he couldnt have been it. The UFC usually want champions to clear out their divisions before moving on. McGregor didnt even have 1 single fight at LW but got the shot and won. That just shows that although he is a good fighter, the UFC push is a HUGE reason to him making this bit of history. He was allowed to do something that others weren't.
So what did you think? I was very unimpressed. Got the benefit of a really awful decision and should have been KTFO long before the end if his opponent had shown a bit more killer instinct. Yong and lernin' but on that performance he'd be eaten alive by any top UFC fighter.
This is what's annoying me about the sport. Fair enough McGregor is a mega star and unlike anyone the ufc has dealt with but this treatment of him seems very short sighted. Hrs killed the FW division and if he puts the LW division in hold the same way, it will be bad...Unbelievable? Calm down mate, i'm not so much defending the way McGregor got his title shot as much as i am trying to explain why he got it. I said in my last post he was fast tracked to the title, Aldo had beaten Mendes, Edgar and Lamas handily enough in his last few fights before he fought McGregor. The UFC needed a credible challenger for Jose (also why Edgar got an immediate title shot the year before) and Conor came along at the perfect time. Im' not saying it was 100% fair but honestly it was easy to see McGregors potential even back then, having him fight Lamas, Swanson and Edgar didn't make much sense when he was ready to fight Aldo.
Yeah we basically agree then mate, as i said in my last post the UFC made an exception for him. When you are that good and that big a star in any sport you will get treatment and opportunities others don't. It's not fair but such is life.
This is what's annoying me about the sport. Fair enough McGregor is a mega star and unlike anyone the ufc has dealt with but this treatment of him seems very short sighted. Hrs killed the FW division and if he puts the LW division in hold the same way, it will be bad...
If he gives up the FW title and defend the LW title to Khabib or Ferguson, I think a lot of hate towards him will die down. But i reckon he'll end up either going for WW or fighting Diaz and not give up FW. I hope I'm wrong.Well i don't know if he's killed the FW division, he only won the title less than a year ago. Yes he should have defended it by now but i imagine if Dos Anjos hadn't got injured for 197 and McGregor getting sidetracked with Diaz he would have defended or dropped the title months ago. I think he will give that belt up shortly as i just can't see him dropping down anytime soon and he'll want to defend the LW belt next year.
I doubt he'll hold up the LW division, i don't see him going up to welterweight just yet. Certainly not vs Woodley anyway. He will most likely make his first LW defence this summer after his kid is born. 6-8 months after a title win isn't uncommon for a first defence.
The fw title was never defended frequently though? He only won the thing a year ago so it could be argued that he has only missed one title defence.This is what's annoying me about the sport. Fair enough McGregor is a mega star and unlike anyone the ufc has dealt with but this treatment of him seems very short sighted. Hrs killed the FW division and if he puts the LW division in hold the same way, it will be bad...