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The problem tonight was Rogan getting excited every time Diaz came back into it as if it was destined to be an exact replica of the first fight.
The first fight coloured certain peoples minds during the rematch. Conor got tired so everything Diaz tried was built up as this game changing factor and it was just a matter of time until Conor was marched down.
The first fight coloured certain peoples minds during the rematch. Conor got tired so everything Diaz tried was built up as this game changing factor and it was just a matter of time until Conor was marched down.
Just having a look now... Also r/MMA seems to think it's controversial. Honestly don't understand that. I had Conor win rounds 1, 2, and 4. He made the necessary adjustments and won the fight. I'm perfectly okay with that.
McGregor said he doesn't know what's next when asked if he was going to drop down to 145 and fight Aldo. He and the UFC have a lot to talk about now, lots of stuff in the pipeline, shits about to hit the fan he said. He gave great credit to Diaz, style of fighting and the way he just never stops going forward.
Great response watch it again conor beat him up. Knocked him down 3 times and didn't get rocked himself. He beat him clearly.
Agree. A few people (including one of the judges) had Nate winning round three 10-8 though. Diaz certainly dominated that round but he failed to either knock him down or take him down....
Diaz throws so many arm punches. No real force behind them. You can see why he might completely dominate a round, yet not get a 10-8. The difference in the two fighter's faces (despite Diaz landing more punches) at the end speaks volumes.
I'm a huge Mcgregor fan and believe he deserved the win overall. Must say though, had it been a street fight; Diaz would have absolutely mauled him eventually. Scary how much punishment that man can take whilst not looking fazed whatsoever.
Even in that Josh Thompson fight where he lost by TKO, that head kick was devastating and he was still ready to get back up, even after the hits he took on the floor thereafter. The guy has an iron jaw.
Even in that Josh Thompson fight where he lost by TKO, that head kick was devastating and he was still ready to get back up, even after the hits he took on the floor thereafter. The guy has an iron jaw.
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I'm probably being pedantic here, but Nate does bleed a lot. He needs to get surgery and remove old scar tissue, which is what his brother did?
Indeed, but to be fair his face was the same in the first fight between them both. Mcgregor did inflict the greater damage overall though this time round and deservedly won. However, had it been a street fight; he would have been battered eventually. Diaz just doesn't seem to lose any stamina despite getting pummeled.
He can barely open his eyes after this fight. That could be down to what ever he's puffing too though!
I've always thought the scoring system of this and boxing was a bit bizarre. Taking, say, the 1st and 4th rounds, the first round was all Conor from start to finish and then the 4th round he definitely edged but not nearly as dominant, yet both are a 1-point advantage on the scorecard.
It wasn't just cuts, though. His face was all swollen to feck too.
Fecking hell it was hard to see how bad it was under all the blood. Yeah I admit, from that video it looks worse this time out but still think he would have kept going for a considerable amount of time where as Mcgregor seemed to be fading out. The diaz brothers just seem to be able to take whatever comes at them and keep going strong, somehow.I'm a Mcgregor fan by the way. Just have huge respect for that iron jaw of Nate and his big brother. You'd have to take a sledge hammer to their head to knock them out cold.
It's much harder to get a 10-8 round in MMA than it is in boxing too, which only adds to the problem. They were talking about changing that recently for effect in 2017.
I had Diaz winning 2, 3 and 5 and an argument that 3 was a 10-8 round. I think I'd need to watch the fight back and certainly Round 2 though with people thinking that was a clear McGregor round, maybe got caught up in the moment so might watch it back later.
Fantastic fight. McGregor was there for the taking, shocked that Diaz didn't finish him. Knew the moment it went to the scorecards what was coming.
In other news, Rumble is one scary man. Looking forward to Cormier/Rumble 2 and hopefully even Rumble/Jones eventually if Jones is back sooner than expected.
Fantastic fight. McGregor was there for the taking, shocked that Diaz didn't finish him. Knew the moment it went to the scorecards what was coming.
In other news, Rumble is one scary man. Looking forward to Cormier/Rumble 2 and hopefully even Rumble/Jones eventually if Jones is back sooner than expected.
1st round should have been 10-8 to Mcgregor, he absolutely destroyed Diaz in the first round and dropped him. Brutal leg kicks and just total domination.
Impressed by Conor's second wind in the 4th round. It looked like the fight was going to go exactly the same as the first at one point. I think the scorecards were pretty much right in the end.
I hate the trend of 'I'm not making excuses but...'
Nate, clearly too gangster to make excuses, but he just felt the need to go into detail about his numerous injuries for a few minutes in the post fight interview. If you want to make excuses just do it, sometimes they can have some merit. Don't pretend that you're not making them.
Nate, clearly too gangster to make excuses, but he just felt the need to go into detail about his numerous injuries for a few minutes in the post fight interview. If you want to make excuses just do it, sometimes they can have some merit. Don't pretend that you're not making them.
Must admit that on initial viewing live this morning I thought Diaz shaded it. It was close though and I wasn't surprised (muthafeckas) to see Conor get the nod. Great fight though. I was muttering "kick his legs" all the way through it. Crazy how Diaz still doesn't bother to put up any defence against those.
Can't believe people thought Glover would beat Johnson. I knew I should've bet the house on him. That guy hits as hard as anyone in the UFC, ever. Mental to think he once fought at ww.
Can't believe people thought Glover would beat Johnson. I knew I should've bet the house on him. That guy hits as hard as anyone in the UFC, ever. Mental to think he once fought at ww.
To add a boxing context to this that is completely glossed over, stepping up in weight in MMA isn't a trivial move like in boxing. The difference isn't 7 pounds between each class. Conor stepped up and won a fight that would be the equivalent of Terence Crawford (Super Lightweight) beating Sergey Kovalev (Light Heavyweight) now. That's unreal.
Great fight! I had it Conor winning the 1st, 2nd and 4th, with Nate winning the third and 5th. The fight felt a draw, but the rules are we score by rounds, and that's what happened.
The contentious round seems to be the 2nd, in which Nate finished very strong. Conor had the best of the first three-and-a-half minutes and scored two knockdowns (I think), after which Nate utilized his insane cardio and took the fight to Conor.
It seems to me that while McGregor seems to be the higher quality fighter, Diaz is a horrible, horrible matchup for him. Since Diaz is a good boxer and much taller, Conor has to slip-and-rip with hooks, and just generally punch around Diaz guard. Putting power behind a hook takes a lot of energy. Conversely Diaz can punch straight, easier to put your bodyweight behind it when tired, takes less energy. Diaz also is the much better ground fighter, which is a real threat when both fighters are tired and easy to topple.
Amazing fight, and Diaz could easily win the third fight, it was that close. The lighter weight will favor Mcgregor, but in wars of this kind all fecking bets are off. Let's see it!
Would anyone back McGregor to beat Cowboy Cerrone? I have a hard time seeing him win that one.
The contentious round seems to be the 2nd, in which Nate finished very strong. Conor had the best of the first three-and-a-half minutes and scored two knockdowns (I think), after which Nate utilized his insane cardio and took the fight to Conor.
It seems to me that while McGregor seems to be the higher quality fighter, Diaz is a horrible, horrible matchup for him. Since Diaz is a good boxer and much taller, Conor has to slip-and-rip with hooks, and just generally punch around Diaz guard. Putting power behind a hook takes a lot of energy. Conversely Diaz can punch straight, easier to put your bodyweight behind it when tired, takes less energy. Diaz also is the much better ground fighter, which is a real threat when both fighters are tired and easy to topple.
Amazing fight, and Diaz could easily win the third fight, it was that close. The lighter weight will favor Mcgregor, but in wars of this kind all fecking bets are off. Let's see it!
Would anyone back McGregor to beat Cowboy Cerrone? I have a hard time seeing him win that one.
Judging from Dana White's quotes this morning, he agrees. Cerrone wanted Alvarez for the title as he already has a win over him but Dana wants him to stay at 170. Can only think that's to leave an angle open for an immediate title shot for Conor at 155.
Conor's gastank has looked great at 145, when he fought smaller guys. It's just draining bumping bodies with a much bigger man, and Nate Diaz who runs marathons for fun and was even bigger this time around with a full camp for 170, man I give props to Conor for getting the win, that was a tall order to even stay in there.
Brutal fight, great fight, even though McGregor didn't have much of a swollen face, Diaz hurt him plenty in the lungs and acidity in his muscles. McGregor teetered on the edge but never fell off.
Sometimes I think Diaz just has a great poker face. He takes time off in the rounds sometimes too, and you don't do that if you're not tired.
I just heard Conor MCGregor broke his foot during the fight. I do remember Diaz checking one of the kicks pretty good. Good for Nate for checking that well, and good toughness by Conor. Funny that the leg-kick strategy might have hurt McGregor more than it did Diaz!
Conor won round 2. You can't win the last minute of a round and expect to win in after being beaten for the rest of the round.. Conor was on top for most of it. Therefore he wins the round.
Have you seen much of the Diaz brothers ? Nothing disgraceful or out of the ordinary about it.
Out of my group of mates, only one would really consider himself to be really into MMA, and he's the only one who didn't watch this. He's coming out with seriously snobby remarks, saying the fight means nothing and is extremely unimportant and we're just hopping on a bandwagon. Is it true that this fight didn't really mean anything? Of course I'm talking about McGregor and Diaz!
He would have to beat Aldo in their rematch to qualify to for a 155 title shot.
It meant more to McGregor than it did for Diaz. Nate already beat him once and McGregor couldn't go back down to 145 on the back of two consecutive losses. Ironically, Aldo is in a similar situation leading up to their rematch - losing twice to McGregor would severely tarnish the legacy of one of the UFC greatest ever fighters.
Huh? How? He doesn't do anything wrong. Seems in good spirits if anything.
Great fight, I thought Conor did edge it but it is close. Looking forward to Number 3. Dunno what will happen with Conor and the belt etc but I'll enjoy this for what it was and it was a very good fight.
Its really hard to win a round if you get knocked down twice and your opponent allows you to get up and continue fight each time. Nate did come back with a pretty good response during the final minute but at that point anything short of a knockdown, takedown, and a bit of ground and pound wouldn't have been enough to trump Conor's early punching and knockdowns.
Reminds me a bit of Condit v Lawler in January - Condit threw a higher volume of punches but Lawler managed to do a lot of damage when he did connect and wound up getting a split decision.
Watched Rounds 2 and 3 again, such fine margins in this fight. McGregor get's two knockdowns in the second but you could easily argue that Diaz does more damage and dominates more with the final 1:30-2 mins. The first minute is clear to Conor while the last 1:30-2 minutes is clear to Diaz. The middle probably swings to McGregor but I still feel Diaz in that final minute or so did more stuff that had more effect than anything in the previous 3 or so minutes from Conor.
The third had Diaz having a crazy flurry in the final minute or two as well, very fine margins for a 10-8 argument. If you watch that final 45 seconds or so Diaz is seriously teeing off on him and I've seen fights stopped for less plenty of times, he's absolutely battering him towards the end.
Ridiculously close stuff. On first viewing in the moment I had it probably swinging towards Diaz. Couldn't complain if it'd been scored a draw either. On second viewing it's just ridiculously close. I stick by what I said a few weeks ago though, Diaz is no elite fighter.
The third had Diaz having a crazy flurry in the final minute or two as well, very fine margins for a 10-8 argument. If you watch that final 45 seconds or so Diaz is seriously teeing off on him and I've seen fights stopped for less plenty of times, he's absolutely battering him towards the end.
Ridiculously close stuff. On first viewing in the moment I had it probably swinging towards Diaz. Couldn't complain if it'd been scored a draw either. On second viewing it's just ridiculously close. I stick by what I said a few weeks ago though, Diaz is no elite fighter.
It was a top 10 lightweight journeyman vs the featherweight champion fighting at welterweight for some reason. So yes it didn't really mean anything in terms of the landscape of divisions etc. Although it was important for Mcgregor not to lose back to back.
It's pretty clear that if Mcgregor fought a top 155er like Cowboy Cerrone who also fought last night that he'd have to get a quick finish, or he would be in for an absolute pounding given what we saw from him in the later rounds. But, he does come out the gates flying so he can stop a lot of people early.
It was very close and could've gone the other way. I'm sure Nate's bloody face didn't help his cause when the judges were weighing their final scoring options.