I smell a medical suspension for Pearson.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Krylov looking good.
feck 
Krylov is too good. Needs to skip all the mid table scrubs like Rashad, Shogun, and Manuwa, and fight someone like OSP next
lol punching themselves out within a minute of the third round.
Well Ellenberger looked excellent there.
Woah!
Ok, didnt expect that.
JUST. LIKE. THAT!
JUST. LIKE. THAT!
Dynamite by Woodley. Robbie was over cautious for me. Can't wait for a guy like Woodley to throw first.
yep, too over cautious. Unexpected outcome... a shame we didn't have a war.
Wow, so 7 title change so far this year.
Wouldn't be surprised if Wonderboy take it later this year.
Wow, so 7 title change so far this year.
Wouldn't be surprised if Wonderboy take it later this year.
Rogan called it so wrong. From the moment Lawler stepped into the Octagon (pre-fight) he was firing off all sorts of nervous energy and never looked settled to me. The "patient" approach JR was calling in the fight was Lawler scared stiff and being reactive to the point it was a matter of when, and not if, Woodley would connect in the early stages.
Fancied Woodley in that one due to his style, didn't expect a war what so ever like a lot of Lawler's recent fights. Woodley is so dangerous at the start of fights with the speed and power he has mixed up with his wrestling. I'm not convinced he'll hold the title long though.
Gutted for Rose, the clinch game from Karolina won her that fight. Very close but Rose had the edge until she struggled inside the clinch in the second, which drained plenty of energy. 24 years old though, she'll be back and better. Joanna/Karolina will be interesting in the build up, I think Joanna completely picks her apart personally when they fight.
Gutted for Rose, the clinch game from Karolina won her that fight. Very close but Rose had the edge until she struggled inside the clinch in the second, which drained plenty of energy. 24 years old though, she'll be back and better. Joanna/Karolina will be interesting in the build up, I think Joanna completely picks her apart personally when they fight.
Didn't think it would end that quickly but it was a matter of time for Lawler getting knocked out he's taken some huge damage in his previous fights and he really never looked into the fight at all. I think he's just holding the title til Wonderboy takes it off him though.
Thought Rose vs. Karolina was the fight of the night and was happy with KArolina winning it. Agree with @JP77 though don't think she'll particularly trouble Joanna and sure Rose wil come back from it and get her shot soon after.
Thought Rose vs. Karolina was the fight of the night and was happy with KArolina winning it. Agree with @JP77 though don't think she'll particularly trouble Joanna and sure Rose wil come back from it and get her shot soon after.
In some ways it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Rose. Better to lose now to Karolina than get a severe beating from Joanna before she is ready. She still has plenty of time on her side. She can go back now and keep improving, build up some more with wins over 5-15 rank type oppenents. We've seen some of Joanna's opponents not look the same when they've come back from a serious beating. Penne, Valerie etc. and I think at this point Rose would definitely have been in for one.
The Karolina fight isn't really that interesting I don't think. She's a good fighter but she basically seems like Joanna-lite to me and will just get comfortably worked over 5 rounds. Doesn't really have the threat of a sub out of nowhere or anything so it plays pretty much in to Joanna's hands.
Sad to see Robbie Lawler's title reign come to an end, I mean everyone loved having him as champ and he gave us some great moments. Well deserved for Woodley though and he is a good dude too. I remember him letting Gastelum keep his full purse when he missed weight which was such a good gesture when you think about it.
Woodley now wants to fight Nick Diaz in three weeks at UFC 202. First Bisping, now Woodley. What an absolute farce the UFC is becoming - belt holders running scared from number one contenders and in search of the nearest McGregor card for a big pay day against inferior fighters.
It won't happen but I don't see much wrong with that. Fighters want to get big pay days
They will eventually face the very best. And it will be Stephen Thompson I'm guessing
It shouldn't happen, nor should fighters be selecting their own shit fights just for the sake of a bigger pay day. If the likes of Bisping and Woodley were quality then they wouldn't be scared to fight the number one contender as the main headline PPV event, as opposed to scampering off to the nearest Conor card to siphon off money from Conor's promotions.
That doesn't make the UFC a farce though just because Bisping is fighting Henderson and Woodley is interested in Diaz. It's easy to pin point stuff like that. What about the champions such as DJ, Cruz, Cormier, Miocic, Joanna etc who fight the best of the best? The Woodley/Diaz one is a bit out there but the Bisping one you can at least understand (even if you don't agree with the decision to give Henderson a title shot, which I don't, but the story is there to at least see their thinking behind it). They make some questionable decisions at times but it's an overreaction to think the company has become a farce mate.
They should be doing the right thing in every instance. The Bisping/Henderson fight is a complete farce and shouldn't happen in a million years, and i seriously doubt anyone outside the UK, is remotely interested in it when the likes of Weidman, Rockhold, Romero, Jacare etc are all well above the hierarchy of Henderson (ranked #13) who has said he is retiring after this fight. So what we have is basically a money fight for Bisping to get a paycheck and Henderson to possibly retire with another big paycheck and go out with a win.
Both fighters are in good stead with the UFC hierarchy and are being allowed special treatment to hold this fight (assuming it ever happens).
As one might imagine, setting such a precedent is not without a headache since other fighters observing it will probably attempt the same thing. And like clockwork, Woodley is now attempting a big money fight against Diaz. Completely unacceptable to allow questionable quality one off champs who would likely not hold their belts for long to game the system for a big pay day. Let them defend their belts against the top opposition for 2-3 times at least before being afforded special treatment at the expense of the rest of the division.
The Bisping/Henderson fight would probably sell more PPV's than Bisping against Weidman/Jacare or whoever tbh and that's only concerning the US. Just the way it is with the popularity game. More people (casuals) know Bisping and Henderson because they have been around for ages. Same way Kimbo slice was a draw even though he was basically shite, because people saw his street fights on youtube.
I understand the fighters campaigning for bigger payday's against weaker fighters but it's up to the UFC to make them fight the best. I believe Bisping/Henderson is quite unique because the UFC want to reward Bisping for being a company man his whole career and it's also Henderson's retirement fight, plus there is the back story from UFC 100 which is a famous knockout which will draw more casual viewers in. Woodley can campaign for Diaz all he likes but there is no way his next fight isn't against Wonderboy. To be fair to Woodley as well he said he wanted to fight Diaz in August, that would be a crazily quick turnaround.
More of a farce is what they've let Conor do to the Featherweight division. Holloway's win streak without getting a title shot is scandalous and he's going to have to wait even longer with Aldo and the interim belt matter to be resolved. Not to mention Frankie losing his opportunity to fight Conor. Someone pointed out on Reddit the other day that Conor has never once defended a belt, even in his Cage Warrior days. He did the same thing he's done in the UFC by winning the belt and then moving up to a different division and never defending it.
I always knew it was a matter of time before Robbie losses that belt. He was quite fortunate in both Rory and Condit fights. You can't have two wars like that and expect to keep an iron chin. Hopefully he bounces back.
Ten Fights I'd love to see this year:
1. McGregor - Aldo
2. Cruz - Dillashaw
3. Alvarez - Khabib
4. Woodley - Thompson
5. Rockhold - Weidman
6. Bisping - Romero
7. Teixeira - Gustafsson
8. Rousey - Nunes
9. Nick Diaz - GSP
10. Rothwell - Lewis
1. McGregor - Aldo
2. Cruz - Dillashaw
3. Alvarez - Khabib
4. Woodley - Thompson
5. Rockhold - Weidman
6. Bisping - Romero
7. Teixeira - Gustafsson
8. Rousey - Nunes
9. Nick Diaz - GSP
10. Rothwell - Lewis
You'd prefer Cruz/Dillashaw to, say, a Cruz/DJ rematch?
I wouldn't mind it, but I don't know if he's moving up. Dillashaw would be a great rematch imo since it was pretty close (SD) last time.
MM said he want the title defence record before moving up/taking super fights. That's like 1 more fight?
2 to equal it, 3 to hold it out right I think. In fairness to MM though he tends to fight twice a year so he'd have that done by 2017 at this rate.
I'm in 2 minds on MM vs Cruz anyway, think Cruz wins it easily again. MM has cleared out his division though so there's no wear else for him to go he's a pretty shit PPV seller to so probably does need a big fight.
cheers. I hope MM completes the record. I imagine the pressure must be huge being so close, each fight a final.
As for Cruz, in my opinion he should defend his title against Dillashaw first before anything else.
ps. looking forward to some Yair Rodriguez this weekend. already pumped for that one.
It seems el Cucuy gonna fight Dos Anjos on november for the TUF latin america 3 final...
BULLSHIT!!! I guess Khabib gonna get the classic title fast track then... maybe they need more PPV buys from eastern europe or something.
BULLSHIT!!! I guess Khabib gonna get the classic title fast track then... maybe they need more PPV buys from eastern europe or something.
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It seems el Cucuy gonna fight Dos Anjos on november for the TUF latin america 3 final...
BULLSHIT!!! I guess Khabib gonna get the classic title fast track then... maybe they need more PPV buys from eastern europe or something.
Title fast track? It's pretty much the longest awaited title fight ever. People have been expecting him to fight for the title for years now, but he's either been injured or fasting for Ramadan (which was why Eddie got the last shot instead). 23-0. 7-0 in the UFC. If that's a fast track I'd hate to see the long road. Ferguson vs RDA is a good fight. If Tony wins he will deservedly get his title shot next. 7 fight win streak in the UFC and 8 fight win streak respectively, crazily stacked division really.
Alvarez - Khabib should be a fun fight too. Obviously the smart money is on Khabib, but Eddie looked in great nick in his last fight so maybe his defensive wrestling will hold up enough to give him time to land something big in the striking exchanges.
Cucuy: 8 straight victories
Khabib: only 2 victories during the same time
i mean come on!! both are gonna be great fights, but Cucuy is the deserving title challenger, simple as.
Khabib: only 2 victories during the same time
i mean come on!! both are gonna be great fights, but Cucuy is the deserving title challenger, simple as.
I thought it was half decent too.
Pietro Menga who was on the undercard is a beast for a flyweight. 41 second walkaway knockout and a Salford lad.
This means nothing. Ask Dan Henderson.
Who the feck is Cuccy ?
Tony Ferguson
Oh right.
Still can't see the logic of anyone jumping ahead of Khabib. He has one of the better ground games in all of MMA and is undefeated.
Still can't see the logic of anyone jumping ahead of Khabib. He has one of the better ground games in all of MMA and is undefeated.
You can make a case either way because El Cucuy has been on a tear since Khabib has been injured. That's tough luck for Khabib but surely the more recently active fighter should get the nod? Having said that, I prefer Khabib over Tony so I'm happy either way.
Khabib's stand up is pretty average though. He was losing the exchange against that part timer until he took him down and wrestle fecked him.
Hard to argue with a guy who's 23-0 getting a title shot really.
I agree with what you're saying. But I think the UFC treats some of their fighters with such disdain when it comes to money. Not everyone gets paid like Conor McGregor. McGregor is probably in for another beating at the hands of Diaz but he'll make millions, a probably millions more than Diaz ultimately. The likes of Woodley get paid peanuts in comparison. I can see why he'd do it because it would probably set him up for life. I don't blame him in that regard. If he fights Wonderboy straight away, he could easily lose and will be back to earning feck all.
The pay system in the UFC is a joke.