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Big 4th round to Jones especially the takedowns. DC needs to finish him in the 5th other JOnes retains.
 
:lol::lol: took him down at the bell and just held him down a bit. Rubbing it in a bit Jon. DC needs a KO now for me.
Expect Jon to manage the round and possibly take him on the counter but likely win on points.
 
Well he did take him down, but still, it was only a personal victory. Seemed like a lot of effort for it given it was a title match.

Love him or hate him, you gotta deal with him. Hes the best.
 
DC gassed so bad after a promising start. Brutal he couldn't take Jones down either. Respect for DC but Jones is just to good.
 
Jones = Money.
TBH, I also loved that he trash talked at the end. Jones is a fantastic heel. He should embrace it as long as hes the best.
 
Another 'toughest opponent ever' crossed off the list. The funny thing about Jones is that his hardest fight was against his least fancied opponent in Gustafsson but if that rematch comes around Jones will play it much more smartly and will walk that fight easily as well.
 
It's too easy for him. Put him with the heavyweights because not only his he tall, he's absolutely massive. His frame compared to Cormier was such a laughable mismatch. He's bloody huge.
 
Cormier's demise was a lack of cardio, not Jones' performance. Jones didn't show much tonight in terms of being able to survive another onslaught from Gustafsson.
 
Another 'toughest opponent ever' crossed off the list. The funny thing about Jones is that his hardest fight was against his least fancied opponent in Gustafsson but if that rematch comes around Jones will play it much more smartly and will walk that fight easily as well.
Yep, have to say I didn't expect Gus to give him that much trouble but I'm looking forward to the rematch (if Gus beats Rumble). But Jones is surely the greatest of all time, and he has a hell of a chin too. Ate some big punches from DC and didn't look that bothered. The UFC really fecked up marketing him,,especially after all,that bullahit when he wouldn't fight Sonnen on a weeks notice. They have a special fighter, who people either love or hate, and is essentially undefeated and they just messed up that side of promoting him.
 
Cormier's demise was a lack of cardio, not Jones' performance. Jones didn't show much tonight in terms of being able to survive another onslaught from Gustafsson.
I think that's a sorta a crazy assessment of how that fight went. Cormier went 25 minutes against Josh Barnett, nearly 20 minutes of those with a broken hand and didn't gas like tonight. Jones fought smart and drowned him, basically. Immense.
 
I think that's a sorta a crazy assessment of how that fight went. Cormier went 25 minutes against Josh Barnett, nearly 20 minutes of those with a broken hand and didn't gas like tonight. Jones fought smart and drowned him, basically. Immense.

I think Cormier won the first round and lost the remaining four, two of which were quite even. Jones was simply not impressive and certainly not at his best. He will lose to Gustafsson if he tries this against him.
 
It's too easy for him. Put him with the heavyweights because not only his he tall, he's absolutely massive. His frame compared to Cormier was such a laughable mismatch. He's bloody huge.

Exactly. He goes in on fight night as a proper heavyweight and it shows. It's too big an obstacle for any real LHW to overcome because behind it, there's an extremely talented fighter. It's also why he can eat punches with ease like the majority of HW's would in the LHW division.

Jones won't find his match in the LHW division.
Cormier's demise was a lack of cardio, not Jones' performance. Jones didn't show much tonight in terms of being able to survive another onslaught from Gustafsson.
Cormier's demise was brawling with someone so obviously bigger than him for 25 minutes - Cormier has shown his stamina is strong and I seriously doubt he'd look that gassed against anyone else in the LHW division.

Jones' mass needs to be met with similar mass first and foremost and that's just going to happen in the LHW division.
 
I think Cormier won the first round and lost the remaining four, two of which were quite even. Jones was simply not impressive and certainly not at his best. He will lose to Gustafsson if he tries this against him.
I think Cormier won the first round and lost the remaining four, two of which were quite even. Jones was simply not impressive and certainly not at his best. He will lose to Gustafsson if he tries this against him.

Jon won the first imo, outstruck him and got a takedown. I'd give DC the 2nd and that's it. I just think JJ fought in the clinch which is DC's game, beat him there, defended the takedowns against an Olympic wrestler then took him down, and just broke him.
 
Jon won the first imo, outstruck him and got a takedown. I'd give DC the 2nd and that's it. I just think JJ fought in the clinch which is DC's game, beat him there, defended the takedowns against an Olympic wrestler then took him down, and just broke him.

Can't remember if it was the first or 2nd, but Cormier definitely took one round. I just wasn't impressed with either fighter tonight. Cormier seemed uninterested in wrestling until it was too late and Jones never appeared dominant when he was scoring his points.
 
Exactly. He goes in on fight night as a proper heavyweight and it shows. It's too big an obstacle for any real LHW to overcome because behind it, there's an extremely talented fighter. It's also why he can eat punches with ease like the majority of HW's would in the LHW division.

Jones won't find his match in the LHW division.

Cormier's demise was brawling with someone so obviously bigger than him for 25 minutes - Cormier has shown his stamina is strong and I seriously doubt he'd look that gassed against anyone else in the LHW division.

Jones' mass needs to be met with similar mass first and foremost and that's just going to happen in the LHW division.
I think he goes imto the ring around 225, which is a smaller than normal at HW.
He made 205 yesterday easily, didn't even take off his sweatpants on the scale. I don't think it has much to do with his weight but his long limbs gives him a lot of leverage to push and pull guys around. He also has probably the greatest gas tank in the division.
 
Can't remember if it was the first or 2nd, but Cormier definitely took one round. I just wasn't impressed with either fighter tonight. Cormier seemed uninterested in wrestling until it was too late and Jones never appeared dominant when he was scoring his points.
I think you're hard to please! :P
 
I think he goes imto the ring around 225, which is a smaller than normal at HW.
He made 205 yesterday easily, didn't even take off his sweatpants on the scale. I don't think it has much to do with his weight but his long limbs gives him a lot of leverage to push and pull guys around. He also has probably the greatest gas tank in the division.
sec - watching post fight conference.
 
I think he goes imto the ring around 225, which is a smaller than normal at HW.
He made 205 yesterday easily, didn't even take off his sweatpants on the scale. I don't think it has much to do with his weight but his long limbs gives him a lot of leverage to push and pull guys around. He also has probably the greatest gas tank in the division.
Press conference was excellent; addressed a lot of the issues people (including myself) have with Jones' size in the LHW division.

Cormier said Jones appears and feels a lot bigger than he is whilst in the octagon and that that surprised him. Bit of a cryptic statement that needs Cormier to expand upon his thoughts, for me.

Jones said he has been so focused on Cormier that he's been walking around under weight for the majority of the build up to the fight and has even had to eat more to make 205. He also mentioned that he has skinny legs and is, in fact, a natural LHW as far as he is concerned.

But that's still misleading, imo. He has a frame that can easily pack on mass about the thigh and torso and I'd love to know what he goes in on fight night at - if what he was saying about pre-fight weight is true and he isn't cutting, then probably no more than 215. If he is cutting, then around what you said, I reckon. Still, he looks absolutely huge in the octagon and has dwarfed everyone he's faced except Gus and I don't think it's just coincidence that suddenly when faced with someone with the same size (probably not fight night mass), he struggled a lot more than usual.

I agree he uses his limbs superbly for all sorts of things and they give him tremendous leverage in clinches, but I can't help but think that combined with that mass, there's very little most legit LHW's can do against it.

Cormier is a natural HW fighting at LHW, so the cutting process must drain him a lot and even re-hydrating, he's not going to be the same animal he would be without the cut. Someone like Cain, who doesn't need to go through that kind of process is going to bring the raw and natural force needed to really make Jones think twice and pick and choose his shots and clinches wisely because eating shots like he does against LHW's in the HW's would have him sprawled out unconscious within a round... plus his lack of genuine single punch K.O power would, i presume, have him deal with problems that he will never face in the LHW's of someone going head-hunting and wanting a direct hit-and-be-hit exchange.
 
Well so much for my prediction :lol: Credit to Jones though, what a great fighter. I thought Cormier only won one round. And I'm shocked that Jones out wrestled him for the most part.
 
Gustaffson has to fight Rumble Johnson first. Rumble is a beast, I really think he can beat both Gustaffson and Jones. He is my new hope of being Jones!
 
Gustaffson has to fight Rumble Johnson first. Rumble is a beast, I really think he can beat both Gustaffson and Jones. He is my new hope of being Jones!
I think both Jones and Cormier wouldn't have any issues smashing Rumble Johnson. Guy hasn't really fought anyone of note except dudes past their prime. Looking at his fight record, how the feck did he even fight Josh Koschek back in 2009, let alone lose to him?
 
From the beginning, i thought that Cormier didn't deserved to fight Jones, he should have fight against Gustafsson who was very close from defeating Jones.
 
From the beginning, i thought that Cormier didn't deserved to fight Jones, he should have fight against Gustafsson who was very close from defeating Jones.
Nah, Cormier held his own against Jones for a while. There was a point prior to the 4th rd when the camera zoomed onto their faces, it appeared that Cormier was the fresher fighter. Then he just ran outta gas.
 
Tough to watch the post fight conference with Cormier in tears and Jones being a grade A twat as usual.

Really hoping Gustafsson can get through Johnson without any injuries and we can get that fight earlier than the end of the year.
 
My official prediction

Jones to win via decision. But to win at least 4 rounds and be fairly comfortable
I was spot on

Even annoyed with myself that I had doubts about Jones in the weeks leading up

I'm fairly sure Gus will beat Rumble in Sweden. So Jones needs a clean win over Gus to effectively clear out the LHW division
 
Nah, Cormier held his own against Jones for a while. There was a point prior to the 4th rd when the camera zoomed onto their faces, it appeared that Cormier was the fresher fighter. Then he just ran outta gas.

He held nothing he lost the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th round(imo), he is a great fighter there is no doubt about it, he was okay in this fight but Gustfasson was a lot closer.

He had the opportunity to fight Jones because of the Circus around it, but he doesn't deserve it, yet.
 
He held nothing he lost the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th round(imo), he is a great fighter there is no doubt about it, he was okay in this fight but Gustfasson was a lot closer.

He had the opportunity to fight Jones because of the Circus around it, but he doesn't deserve it, yet.

Cormier is a top level fighter that basically hadn't even lost a round and was undefeated. The only argument to be had was that Gustafsson was made the wait. Cormier deserved a shot either way.

The fight was close for the first three rounds with barely anything in it. The final two rounds are where it completely shifted.