That was so one sided
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Wonder when it happened?
KO of the night: Roy Nelson
Submission of the night: Pat Healy
Fight of the night: Healy and Miller or maybe Silar and Holobaugh?
KO of the night: Roy Nelson
Submission of the night: Pat Healy
Fight of the night: Healy and Miller or maybe Silar and Holobaugh?
Sonnen had a chance until the bell rang to start the fight.
Did Jones win ?
Weirdest UFC night ever.
Yep, destroyed Chael although funnily enough if Chael had been able to hang on for like 20 more seconds he would have won.
I assume they'd have to stop it, I've seen them continue with broken toes before, but never the big toe.
Jones is my fellow new yorker...I don't know who is capable of beating him..machida maybe
I wish I went now..Newark it's an hour away from me
Daniel Cormier probably if he can safely make LHW.
Honestly it was kinda shit. It was a bad weird, not good weird
Honestly it was kinda shit. It was a bad weird, not good weird
Unless you like eye poking, or just plain don't like eyes.
I was looking for this for ages, tonight reminded me of this event. Well, it was well before my time of watching it but I remember reading about it before.
No fight ended in a knockout.
feck, I just saw the moment of Jone's toe snapping. It looks hilarious.
How'd it happen?
When Jones was pushing Chael against the cage, his foot is kind of spread out and the weight is on the toe and it just snaps completely the other way.
Don't look if you're squeamish.
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Geez, it was like flicking a switch.....
EDIT: Cheers for that!
EDIT: Cheers for that!
Complete daylight outside 
Might as well stay up and watch the post fight presser, I'm sure Dana will some interesting comments about the card.
Might as well stay up and watch the post fight presser, I'm sure Dana will some interesting comments about the card.
Jones is tough as hell, fought 4 rounds with Belfort and won with a fecked up arm. Then he snaps his toe and didn't even notice until after the fight.
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
Dana saying Roy could possibly face Cormier or if Hunt beats JDS then Roy vs Hunt!
JDS will get his rematch with Cain if he beats Hunt.
"Anderson called tonight and he wants the fight" says Dana. He didn't say whether it was the GSP or Jones, he wants to fight. After watching Jones destroy Chael I'm guessing Anderson called for the GSP one.
Silva will destroy Jones if it happens.
Not much you can say about that Sonnen/Jones fight. Sonnen came out to entertain, not to fight a smart fight. Didn't attempt to take Jones down at all and just came out for a brawl, which was always going to play into the hands of Jones.
Jones seems to want Gustafsson next, hopefully it's Machida though who I still believe has the right style to beat him.
Enjoyable event even though lot of weird shit happened.
No more UFC for about a month now. Boo!
No more UFC for about a month now. Boo!
Tough? He was shaking like a little girl after he noticed it and Rogan was interviewing him!
Well for a start, the adrenaline had just wore off so he'd be shaking anyway. Secondly, a bone was poking out of his fecking foot and he still sat there and did an interview.
How have you come to that conclusion? Jones is the bigger man, has exceptional wrestling (the best in the UFC, imo) and along with that absolutely lethal ground and pound.
Jones is phenomenal. I would love to see the fight, I'm not sure who would win but Silva isn't destroying Jones.
edit: Just read Jones broke his toe at 2:40 into the fight. So he fought another 2:20 with his toe like that
What the hell?!You said it originally as if Silva would be scared to fight Jones on the back of last nights performance, where realistically Jones didn't exactly look incredible just because he beat down a guy that didn't even come in to play to his strengths but instead came in to brawl with one of the top fighters in MMA.
Silva is the greatest striker in the history of MMA. There's isn't anybody as good as him or possibly even close to the level of what he does in those terms. I wasn't being serious in saying he'd destroy Jones, but I doubt I can ever pick against Silva in any fight. Jones would have to be unbelievably careful coming in close to Silva for any type of a take down and nobody is as quick and surprising as Silva with those unbelievable one hit moves from out of nowhere. Silva's better off of his back than people give him credit for too. Jones real chance would be taking Silva down and keeping him there, because he'd get malled if he even dared to be cocky and stand with Silva.
And I stick by saying GSP would be a tougher fight. Tough to think of many people as good at takedowns as GSP and his wrestling is excellent. Silva would come in bigger, but GSP has shown how great he is at taking opponents down and grinding them. He's also a much better striker than people give him credit for (Not in Silva's league, but still bloody good).
Silva isn't scared of anyone. I simply meant that if Silva really did call after watching Chael vs Jones and how Jones humiliated Chael then I reckon Silva asked for GSP.
Jones has looked incredible though, he has had an incredible career. He has arguably had the best year in MMA ever back in 2011 beating Shogun, Machida, Rampage and Bader. H beat all of them in one year and won the title. He has cleaned out a talented LHW division.
Jon doesn't even have to come close to Silva if he doesn't want to. He has a big reach advantage over him, something which Silva wouldn't be particularly used to either and especially not the way Jon uses it.
I want to see this fight so much, the GSP vs Anderson one barely interests me.
Jones has looked incredible though, he has had an incredible career. He has arguably had the best year in MMA ever back in 2011 beating Shogun, Machida, Rampage and Bader. H beat all of them in one year and won the title. He has cleaned out a talented LHW division.
Jon doesn't even have to come close to Silva if he doesn't want to. He has a big reach advantage over him, something which Silva wouldn't be particularly used to either and especially not the way Jon uses it.
I want to see this fight so much, the GSP vs Anderson one barely interests me.
I'd have to go for Silva, but'd be a hard fight. Can't bet against Silva though.
Oh it'd be a cracker no doubt about it. I'm not saying Jones would have no chance or isn't fantastic, because he would and he is, but I still believe there's nobody better than Silva and I'm not so sure I'll ever see anybody as good as him in my lifetime.
His three bouts at LHW have been ridiculous. Seriously, people want to talk about impressive and domination, what he did when he stepped up those times to LHW is just crazy. People make excuses regarding the opponents, but he came in and destroyed Griffin and Bonnar. That should never be taken lightly, these are the two same guys that have been in absolute wars and taken massive shots throughout those wars and still stood there and traded. Silva comes in and just makes them look ridiculous, he even stands against the cage against Bonnar and LET'S HIM hit him, that's fecking crazy. Jones tries mind games nowadays, but Silva has been doing it before Jones was even around, he's the master of it.
Silva's speed and reactions are just insane. When you're fighting this guy you cant make a single mistake. Not one, because if you do it's game over. Every punch, every kick, every move has to be near on perfect. Your timing has to be perfect. The gameplan has to be perfect. And even then nothing's guaranteed against this guy.
His three bouts at LHW have been ridiculous. Seriously, people want to talk about impressive and domination, what he did when he stepped up those times to LHW is just crazy. People make excuses regarding the opponents, but he came in and destroyed Griffin and Bonnar. That should never be taken lightly, these are the two same guys that have been in absolute wars and taken massive shots throughout those wars and still stood there and traded. Silva comes in and just makes them look ridiculous, he even stands against the cage against Bonnar and LET'S HIM hit him, that's fecking crazy. Jones tries mind games nowadays, but Silva has been doing it before Jones was even around, he's the master of it.
Silva's speed and reactions are just insane. When you're fighting this guy you cant make a single mistake. Not one, because if you do it's game over. Every punch, every kick, every move has to be near on perfect. Your timing has to be perfect. The gameplan has to be perfect. And even then nothing's guaranteed against this guy.
That would be sick. Has Hunt ever been knocked out? If this fight happens I'm getting PPV again.*Checks wiki*
Once in MMA, twice in kickboxing. Would be such a fight.
Once in MMA, twice in kickboxing. Would be such a fight.
Good post man but I'd have to disagree about some things. IMO, the greatest has to be Fedor. He was just a monster at heavyweight and he wasn't a big HW by any means, he was nearly always the smaller guy. He just looked like this chubby white guy until he started smashing people. Look at his winning streak, from 2000 until 2009, he fought in 29 fights and didn't lose one of them. And I know people will say it's a padded record or a lot of them were cans but he fought some real talent as well and at HW all it takes is one punch ( look at Cain vs JDS 1) and you lose.
He fought a prime Big Nog, who has been in the UFC top 10 HWs since he has been in the company, three times! He fought a prime Cro Cop, who was a ridiculously good striker, and won. He fought Mark Hunt,another top striker, and a guy who is nearly at a title shot now in the UFC. He beat Babalu, Coleman, Randleman, Heath Herring (Kinda shit but took Brock to a decision) etc.
Basically, Fedor beat strikers, BJJ fighters, wrestlers. He didn't really have a weakness and is the GOAT. I don't care what anyone says, I love me some Fedor!
Even look at the fighters that ended his winning streak -
Werdum - #3 heavyweight right now
Henderson - Hendo is Hendo, no words needed
Bigfoot Silva - Is in the HW tite fight next month.
Anderson cleaned out the MW division but the MW division has never been the strongest in the UFC, imo.
I think Jones would beat Silva. Jones is the best wrestler at the moment and Silva's only weakness is takedown defense. If Sonnen was able to take Silva down at will, Jones would have him down in no time.
The unique thing about Jones is his elbows. Forget punches, but his elbows can cut you wide open. There is no one in mma with this unique advantage.
Silva is just incredible but Jones might just be his Achilles heel.
The unique thing about Jones is his elbows. Forget punches, but his elbows can cut you wide open. There is no one in mma with this unique advantage.
Silva is just incredible but Jones might just be his Achilles heel.
Good post man but I'd have to disagree about some things. IMO, the greatest has to be Fedor. He was just a monster at heavyweight and he wasn't a big HW by any means, he was nearly always the smaller guy. He just looked like this chubby white guy until he started smashing people. Look at his winning streak, from 2000 until 2009, he fought in 29 fights and didn't lose one of them. And I know people will say it's a padded record or a lot of them were cans but he fought some real talent as well and at HW all it takes is one punch ( look at Cain vs JDS 1) and you lose.
He fought a prime Big Nog, who has been in the UFC top 10 HWs since he has been in the company, three times! He fought a prime Cro Cop, who was a ridiculously good striker, and won. He fought Mark Hunt,another top striker, and a guy who is nearly at a title shot now in the UFC. He beat Babalu, Coleman, Randleman, Heath Herring (Kinda shit but took Brock to a decision) etc.
Basically, Fedor beat strikers, BJJ fighters, wrestlers. He didn't really have a weakness and is the GOAT. I don't care what anyone says, I love me some Fedor!
Even look at the fighters that ended his winning streak -
Werdum - #3 heavyweight right now
Henderson - Hendo is Hendo, no words needed
Bigfoot Silva - Is in the HW tite fight next month.
Anderson cleaned out the MW division but the MW division has never been the strongest in the UFC, imo.
Lot of people don't understand how impressive Fedor was.
He was blindingly fast, you'd probably have to go to MW to find guys as fast as him, but then it makes sense, because if Fedor was American and indoctrinated into the weight cutting culture he would be a LHW, and not a big one.
Fedor was also impressive because of the manner in which he won. He wasn't just a terminator, showing no weakness smashing through people. He got spiked, he got rocked, he got nearly submitted. However, he always fought through it, recovered and found a way to win.
Fedor had no quit in him, he always came to fight, aggressively and he would even take guys on at THEIR game.
Fedor answered all the questions you can have about a fighter. He had heart, ability, tenacity, skill, athleticism. He had it all.
You look at a guy like Jones, and you can't say that. Certainly Jones is a monster, but so was Mike Tyson. What happens to Jones the first time he fights someone who is not only not afraid of him, but has the physical tools to not be completely dominated. Will Jones persevere? Will he fold? We don't know.
Even Jones knows this, which is a good indicator about his own ability to self evaluate. He has spoken at length in fights about being hit, and not knowing how he will cope with getting really tagged.
Jones is clearly on pace to be the greatest the sport has ever seen, but he's still just a baby in the sport. Eventually he will meet his Buster Douglas. How he deals with someone like that will determine how good he can be and how good he really is.
Until then, Fedor is the goat. Silva and GSP are trailing some distance and Jones is looking to take the crown.
The reason why I think Fedor is the goat and not Silva or GSP is pretty simple.
Fedor is a fat 235 pound guy. Not only could he have fought at 205, I've seen strong arguments suggesting that he could have potentially reached 185 with diet AND water cutting.
Neither GSP nor Silva have shown any indication of being willing to fight a larger man, and should Silva finally fight Jones, he will almost certainly get smashed. As would GSP if he fought Silva.
I'd be more interested in the Jones-Siva fight then the Silva-GSP one. Silva has already competed in the LHW and it makes way more sense than seeing him go down to Welterweight where he'll be much bigger than GSP. In fact, weight-wise, GSP fighting against the top Lightweight makes more sense than against Silva who can easily make the 205. I still think that Jones will outpower Silva, but I would love to see that fight anyway.