Who has Ngannou winning? Who has Stipe?
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I have Ngannou.
Stipe all day long
Ridiculous
Stipe gonna take Ngannou soul for a second time.
I will be using other online sources to watch this time. 60 dollars for that bs main event shall be punished,.
Shamelessly indulging in the soap opera aspect of the sport by posting this but I found it interesting and oddly moving. I generally haven't been a huge Woodley fan but he seems an alright guy. Usman comes across as exceptionally chilled and articulate to me when he's not indulging in hype-mode trash talk and I hope he gains enough traction that he can just be himself. 'Persona' or not, Colby is a scumbag.
Logically it has to be Stipe, as Ngannou hasn't really shown (or had the chance to show) anything new since he has murdered his last four opponents in just over 2 minutes following the first fight and the Lewis debacle. There's little evidence that he's addressed the defensive wrestling, cardio and mental aspects since those two setbacks. I'm still somehow picking Ngannou though as a hunch/just for the hell of it pick. Also tagging @Jim Beam so he can laugh at me remorselessly in a little over 24 hours time.
Well, not laughing now! Don't have a good feeling about this one.Stipe needs to survive opening round and first few exchanges. And even then I count on Ngannou to be far more dangerous then in the first match, but the chances will grow the more they go the distance.
If N'Gannou has a champion's mentality and conviction going into this (is not overcome by nerves like the first time), he'll have too much for Stipe. Even with the jitters in the first fight he tagged Stipe; all-out barrages that land this time will see Stipe asleep.
With the clocks going forward for us in the uk this weekend does it mean the main event starts at 2am as opposed to 3am?
I'm quite torn here.
On one hand, I like Stipe, good champion, great guy outside the sport.
On the other hand, the thought of Ngannou v Bones is so exciting.
On one hand, I like Stipe, good champion, great guy outside the sport.
On the other hand, the thought of Ngannou v Bones is so exciting.
If I remember correctly, after the first fight, he lamented his approach and said that his salvo was his undoing. He argued that it isn't the way he normally fights and wasn't the smart tactic and that it was the reason he lost. Watching that fight, he missed all but a few of his heavy strikes, hitting air several times, and gasping by the end of the first round.
He can try starting with a barrage but the question is whether he can hit Stipe clean. If Miocic reads his punches well, as he did last time, the fight starts to shift in his favor as Ngannou wears out. If he's more measured and connects, this could be a new title reign.
I - like @Dirty Schwein - also want to see Ngannou against Jones. But I'm not sure which man I'll be cheering on, because part of me wants Miocic to win again.
One of the main reasons I'm leaning now towards a Stipe win is that I love seeing Dana's tomato face when something he clearly wants doesn't happen
One of the main reasons I'm leaning now towards a Stipe win is that I love seeing Dana's tomato face when something he clearly wants doesn't happen
If the fight has been uploaded to YouTube, try looking at aftermath of the Brock Vs Velasquez title change. You can see Dana White in the background looking visibly perturbed and very bemused.
His rant during the post ppv press conference after GSP beat Hendricks in contentious circumstances and decided he wanted to walk away was legendary as well. "folks this guy...gsp...he clearly...he lost.who had him winning? Is there anyone in this room who had GSP winning? I mean...he clearly lost and...you can't just walk away! You...he clearly lost to hendricks, ya know?"
No, the other way round unfortunately. We lose an hour so event will start an hour later.
I remember that
"You OWE Hendricks the rematch"
I remember him being on suicide watch that one time when Sage, PVZ, McGregor and Rousey all lost all one after another
There's numerous interviews with him saying that losing that fight was the best thing that has happened to him as it has forced him (or opened his eyes) to issues and weaknesses in his game (mental and physical) he didn't even know he had. The one where Schauber eats food with fighters is really good. He admits he was like a deer in headlights, and I thought he lost that fight in his own head on top of Stipe capitalising on him being out of his depth. The problem with N'Gannou is he can't replicate the scenarios with Stipe in any other way than to be in the octagon again with him and face whatever demons he had head on, which is something we'll see if he had done tonight.
I'm half expecting him to freeze again and half expecting him to mow through Stipe - I find it impossible to call the fight because it's about so much more than physical skill, ability or prowess. Stipe fights with the mentality of an underdog champion, and he's come back and proven his mettle enough times now that you know he won't be the one flaking in there if push comes to shove. N'Gannou, however, is like a tornado that just flings everything in his path out the way with little bother, so much so, we don't really get to analyse his improvements or nuances. From that perspective, it's a question of whether said tornado will dissipate at just the wrong time for him again or whether he'll have the same conviction and assured mental state that Stipe has. For me, if he does, he wins the fight. But ultimately, who knows what N'Gannou we see in there?
He's got to show the pedigree of a champion - it's a hell of a lot of pressure to contend with.
Re. Jones. It's all fluff and nonsense to me until he proves he has the power and mobility to mix it with the HW's. On ability, he has no rivals, but if he hasn't got the strength and power to keep them off or wrestle them adequately, it'll mean next to nothing other than trying depserately to hang on for decisions.
He's been doing that in LHW recently anyway.
Just like some farm animals needs a rabbit companion to help them relax, Ngannou will have Kamaru cornering him, to serve the same purpose.
Stipe is fecked.
Stipe is fecked.
Which makes it an even greater concern at HW. If he can move and can make the real heavies think twice on trying to bomb him out, then we're talking, but, for me, it really remains to be seen. These guys have no reason to fear Jones' standup and he has every reason to be concerned with theirs. Will be quite something if he goes up and can be himself.
Not sure where else to put it. I hope Funky sparks him clean out
Recently got back in MMA.
Got a few questions for tomorrow's fight:
Is Stipe the greatest HW champion?
How much Ngannou improved over the years.
Got a few questions for tomorrow's fight:
Is Stipe the greatest HW champion?
How much Ngannou improved over the years.
Oh Aljo is just trolling now on Twitter but it doesn’t make him look good. Just stop.
Stipe is in the conversation for GOAT HWs for sure.
Ngannou has carried on sparking people out like he was prior to the first Stipe fight so hard to say how much he's improved...
Really well put and hard to disagree with. We'll find out how it unfolds soon enough. It's difficult to predict this one.
Regarding Jones, I think he's going to overpowered as well unless he bulks up significantly which is going to affect his mobility. And I agree that there's a difference between trading shots with Reyes and co and winning decisions, and absorbing heavy bombs from actual heavyweights.
I actually can't wait for this, but I ain't an MMA fan. Just wanna see an obnoxious prick get a battering.
He’s actually so stupid. Why on earth would you go into a ring with an ex pro fighter..? Even if he wasn’t good at striking he’s still going to be miles ahead of you and completely different mentally.
And can take a beating too, it's not always about how hard someone can hit but how much they can take.
Jake Paul will probably have never felt anything like when askren actually hits him.
Yeah absolutely. I mean fighting KSI is different to fighting a pro fighter whom has trained all his life.
Dolla dolla bills ya’ll.
Askren said it’s ‘probably the most’ he’s ever going to make for a fight and Jake Paul is likely to be making more.
Dolla bills to pay for his life support.
Not much of a risk suffering brain damage when you haven’t gone one to begin with.
If Askren loses, I'll be hiding under a rock in Uzbekistan.
The Volkanovski/Ortega fight falling through is a big loss for tonights card. I was really looking forward to that. Still looking forward to it though, keep an eye on the Kharma Worthy vs. Jamie Mullarkey, has fight of the night written all over it. Big opportunity for them on the main card of the PPV.
As for the main 3 fights, I'm very interested in all 3. I feel like if Ngannou can't knock Stipe out in the first round it's game over for him, I'll be very interested to see if he comes out wild like he did against Rozenstruik, or more measured, like he did against Dos Santos.
O'Malley should bounce back with a W, but Almeida is no can and O'Malley does seem to suffer with injuries, particularly in the legs, I'm sure Almeida will be throwing calf kicks from early.
The Woodley/Luque fight might be the most interesting on the card for me. Woodley is basically fighting for his job here, and a guy like Luque who is all pressure and nonstop strikes is a nightmare for him stylistically. I think a big reason why Woodley can be so gun shy is because of his cardio but he's in a 3 rounder here for the first time in a long time so perhaps he'll be less tentative? He should look to utilise his wrestling, instead of just looking to land one big shot.
Should be a fun night of fights anyway.
As for the main 3 fights, I'm very interested in all 3. I feel like if Ngannou can't knock Stipe out in the first round it's game over for him, I'll be very interested to see if he comes out wild like he did against Rozenstruik, or more measured, like he did against Dos Santos.
O'Malley should bounce back with a W, but Almeida is no can and O'Malley does seem to suffer with injuries, particularly in the legs, I'm sure Almeida will be throwing calf kicks from early.
The Woodley/Luque fight might be the most interesting on the card for me. Woodley is basically fighting for his job here, and a guy like Luque who is all pressure and nonstop strikes is a nightmare for him stylistically. I think a big reason why Woodley can be so gun shy is because of his cardio but he's in a 3 rounder here for the first time in a long time so perhaps he'll be less tentative? He should look to utilise his wrestling, instead of just looking to land one big shot.
Should be a fun night of fights anyway.
Prelims starting in 10 minutes.
Any thoughts on how Stipe v Francis will go down ?
Personally it seems Francis will KO him, but I'm sure Stipe will have practiced how to weather the storm and take it to the ground again, so literally anything is possible.
Personally it seems Francis will KO him, but I'm sure Stipe will have practiced how to weather the storm and take it to the ground again, so literally anything is possible.