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UFC is so against Fitch because he's a pretty boring(but awesome) fighter. Absolutely robbed today.
 
UFC is so against Fitch because he's a pretty boring(but awesome) fighter. Absolutely robbed today.

The UFC has nothing to do with the judging of fights, the Atheltic Commissions are responsible for that.
 
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Thought Fitch was awsome in that 3rd round. Really was relentless.

Will Bisping be in a lot of trouble for spitting? Paul Daley got fired for post fight antics. What is considered worse?
 
Thought Fitch was awsome in that 3rd round. Really was relentless.

Will Bisping be in a lot of trouble for spitting? Paul Daley got fired for post fight antics. What is considered worse?

Can't see dana cutting him for it. He's still the biggest draw for the UK at the minute. Probably just get fined or suspended maybe?

Didn't see that much wrong with it though, rivera got what he deserved. Baroni has been defending bisping on the UG and it seems to have silenced a lot of the bisping haters lol
 
I thought Bisping's antics were hilarious tbh. I must have missed the spit though, thats uncalled for. Sadly another win for Bisping which doesnt really mean anything. As I saw it he wins and nothing happens - unless he knocks Rivera out with one punch knockout power, if he loses he can forget about ever having that title shot he talks about.

Typical Bisping win, combos and accumulative damage just about get the stoppage and he wins proving almost nothing.

Was dissapointed G-Sot lost, but it shows a hole in his game he needs to work on if he wants to win the title. If he cant take the likes of Edgar and Maynard down once or twice he'd only lose those fights too as Maynard has more power and Edgar would outpoint him on his feet.
 
Bisping is a fecking prick. He'll get hammered as soon as he fights a half decent fighter. Henderson showed that. His antics before and after fights really make his look like a joke. It's all well and good talking shite if you are able to back it up but he really can't, unless he is fighting very poor fighters. His after match comments about Matt Hamill said it all. Hamill clearly won that fight but Bisping wins a hometown decision, and then he decides to slag off Hamill. Arsehole.
 
Bisping is a fecking prick. He'll get hammered as soon as he fights a half decent fighter. Henderson showed that. His antics before and after fights really make his look like a joke. It's all well and good talking shite if you are able to back it up but he really can't, unless he is fighting very poor fighters. His after match comments about Matt Hamill said it all. Hamill clearly won that fight but Bisping wins a hometown decision, and then he decides to slag off Hamill. Arsehole.

Seriously, if you don't like trash talkers you are watching the wrong sport. Besides, Rivera was the one that tried to drag Bisping down by calling him out and doing loads of childish internet stuff - he was the one that couldn't back it up. Bisping won a fight and won a few fans back, I'm sure he'd take that.
 
I'm not, if ever there was a fight where I didn't want to see either lose...

Personally I'm not a fan of Jones. In the initial fight I had your opinion, as I like both Rashad and Shogun and wouldn't know who to cheer for. Wouldn't like either to be KTFO so a finish would be a bollocks, yet I hate fights going the distance
 
Seriously, if you don't like trash talkers you are watching the wrong sport. Besides, Rivera was the one that tried to drag Bisping down by calling him out and doing loads of childish internet stuff - he was the one that couldn't back it up. Bisping won a fight and won a few fans back, I'm sure he'd take that.

From what I read on the net, he is getting a load of stick. He illegally kneed Rivera whilst on the ground and he never fully recovered.

That is not the way I'd want to win a fight.

I don't mind any trash talking before a fight, it elevates the fight and gets more press attention for the event. But Bisping has showed complete disrespect for fellow fighters after fights on more than one occasion. The top fighters can trash talk, but generally they always show complete respect for their beaten opponents.
 
How can you not be a fan of Jon Jones? He's everything that's right about the sport.

Saying that, I do find it odd that a lot of people are making Jones a favourite against the champion coming into this. I know Rua has been out for a while but he's on a different level to the guys that Jones has dispatched (admittedly with relative ease) so far.

I might put some dosh down on Shogun for this one. Jones will be a champ one day for sure but this might be too much too soon.
 
I gather Lyoto is fighting Randy Couture at UFC129. No information about when Rashad is fighting next. I thought he would be ideal for Shogun after his win over Rampage.
 
I gather Lyoto is fighting Randy Couture at UFC129. No information about when Rashad is fighting next. I thought he would be ideal for Shogun after his win over Rampage.

Who, Rashad? He was gonna fight Shogun but then got injured hence JJ stepping in.
 
Sanchez won the 2nd by putting Kampmann on wobbly legs imo. The 3rd was very close but I just about had Sanchez. Great comeback from him and even though Kampmann is much the more skilled fighter, he's another who couldnt keep it up against Diego's pace and slowed down a lot as the fight wore on.
 
I'm not sure who I had winning the BJ-Fitch fight.

Round one was BJ.

Round two was too close to call, but if I had a gun to my head I would have to take BJ.

Round three was all Fitch but it wasn't 10-8.

I'd score it 29-29 or if I absolutely had to pick a winner 29-28 BJ.

Round two was difficult to score because while BJ was vastly superior striking, and took Fitch's back, he lost the position and left Fitch on top for too long. It comes down to what you value more I suppose. I felt the round was too close to call maybe leaning slightly towards BJ.

I was pretty shocked at the decision though, with 2 Judges giving BJ two rounds and Fitch a 10-8 third.
 
How was it not a 10-8?

Laying in guard throwing pillow punches isn't 10-8 for me.

He never hurt BJ, or even remotely came close to stopping him. For a round to be 10-8 for me one guy has to be hurt repeatedly or nearly stopped.

Siver deserved 10-8 for the first round vs George as he nearly stopped him. Fitch just sat in guard and threw arm punches and elbows. It was dominating but it wasn't devastating.
 
The whole round was Fitch on top beating him up. After the fight that one round was enough for BJ to say "He kicked my ass" and think that he lost the fight. He outstruck him by 139 strikes. Thats a 10-8 or else they dont exist.
 
The whole round was Fitch on top beating him up. After the fight that one round was enough for BJ to say "He kicked my ass" and think that he lost the fight. He outstruck him by 139 strikes. Thats a 10-8 or else they dont exist.

Rampage said the same thing when he got the decision over Lyoto yet Rampage easily won one round and probably 2, the judges thought so. One round a victory does not make especially when you're keeping active for the sole purpose of maintaining the position. Rampage won the majority of the fight on the score cards and then got his ass beat in the last round. BJ won the majority of the fight on the score cards and then got laid on for the last round. I won't discount what BJ said, but BJ was highly emotional, went into the fight thinking about retiring and he clearly lost the final round.

That is the knock on Fitch. He did not attempt to move into a more dominant position. He didn't throw anything with any real intent to stop the fight. He was content to just throw so that it wasn't stood up.

Tell me when BJ was ever hurt or in danger?

That is the key for me when you give a 10-8 round. One guy being in danger of actually being stopped, or the fight being stopped. There was never a moment in that round where a stoppage was considered or when BJ was in danger of being stopped.

That isn't a 10-8 round for me. If you want to award 10-8 rounds for dominant position an entire round then you're going to completely cheapen the 10-8 round that is normally reserved for nearly fight ending sequences.
 
Zuffa LLC, owner and operator of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, has agreed in principle to purchase Strikeforce, essentially its lone remaining competitor in the mixed martial arts market, multiple sources with knowledge of the deal confirmed to ESPN.com.

UFC president Dana White told MMAFighting.com that Zuffa had purchased Strikeforce.

An announcement could come as soon as Monday.


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Negotiations have been months in the making between representatives for Zuffa and Silicon Valley Sports & Entertainment, which also runs the NHL's San Jose Sharks, various parties familiar with the deal said.

Silicon Valley in 2008 had agreed to a partnership with Strikeforce's parent company, West Coast Entertainment, a San Jose-based promotion created by Scott Coker in 1985.

It's unclear the extent to which Coker, the current Strikeforce CEO, played in the negotiations. Coker did not respond ESPN.com's requests for comment.

Ken Hershman, executive vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports, which has a long-term broadcasting deal with Strikeforce, declined through a representative to comment.

Should lead to more events with top fights if it goes through
 
Zuffa Purchases Strikeforce -- MMA Fighting

They will be run as two separate companies, at least for the time being. So no fighters will be going over to the UFC, or to Strikeforce, except in cases where they already could (like when contracts expire). That said, I can definitely see a full merger within a couple of years.

Isn't that how long the Strikerforce-Showtime deal is as well? Would make sense.
 
Wonder if Strikeforce will be on UK TV now. They may try selling it to Sky. Would be nice as they have a couple of good shows coming up
 
Zuffa Purchases Strikeforce -- MMA Fighting

They will be run as two separate companies, at least for the time being. So no fighters will be going over to the UFC, or to Strikeforce, except in cases where they already could (like when contracts expire). That said, I can definitely see a full merger within a couple of years.

Isn't that what they said about Pride and then a few months later Pride ceased to exist?

The only company Dane and the bosses care about promoting is the UFC. Strikeforce might run a few shows, but ultimately at the end of the day it will be folded into the UFC.

This is terrible for MMA btw. Strikeforce was another bigger show which allowed people who were not willing to bend over backwards for Zuffa to get exposure.

The UFC can't really up the number of cards or they risk over saturation of their PPV market. This means that a limited number of contracts are available for an even larger roster of top level fighters. If the UFC cuts you now, where the hell do you go?
 
Isn't that what they said about Pride and then a few months later Pride ceased to exist?

The only company Dane and the bosses care about promoting is the UFC. Strikeforce might run a few shows, but ultimately at the end of the day it will be folded into the UFC.

This is terrible for MMA btw. Strikeforce was another bigger show which allowed people who were not willing to bend over backwards for Zuffa to get exposure.

The UFC can't really up the number of cards or they risk over saturation of their PPV market. This means that a limited number of contracts are available for an even larger roster of top level fighters. If the UFC cuts you now, where the hell do you go?

Agreed. It's a load of bollox.
 
The UFC can't really up the number of cards or they risk over saturation of their PPV market. This means that a limited number of contracts are available for an even larger roster of top level fighters. If the UFC cuts you now, where the hell do you go?

The UFC are actually looking to have as many shows as possible, in as many places as possible. There's a reason why the number of cards has risen so dramatically the last few years.