No doubt about it they are playing for Ole. Fantastic win
The manager has lost the players
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There's no excuses to not put the same effort in as that second half all the time.
AGAIN
How many times now have we seen Ole have the noose around his neck and we turn it around? This time in the space of a single half of football.
Why do we go from looking like a bunch of plonkers to looking like an actual team from one match to the other?
It boggles the mind
Definitely hasn't lost the players. The problems are on the coaching side, not in terms of earning their support.
Exactly.
If Ole perpetually was in danger of being sacked, we would have been golden, but if hes not it seems the effort and intensity is just "meh"
Downing tools is different to having lost faith in the manager. These players are obviously motivated to not get knocked out of the CL group stage.
Said at half time it reminded me of when we came back from two nil down against Newcastle. The players saved Jose that day and they saved Ole today but I don’t think in either case they are/were really behind the manager. At the end of the day the players don’t want to get knocked out and I think that’s probably more an inspiration than Ole.
The excuse is obviously that it's unsustainable? But also that there's 2 teams on the football pitch, and Atalanta today shat themselves in the 2nd half and let us back in. It's not about effort. United work hard but we don't work smartly at all. I'll (almost) never criticize the work rate under Ole, even when we play like shit. We have no plan though, work rate has never been the issue.
Of course they are. Ole never lost them. It's just that heads dropped when Leicester scored late and then killed the game.
Obviously, Zidane can't come and win the CL if we are out at the group stages now can he?
He’s just the luckiest man in football. There’s no denying it now
This squad absolutely are playing for the manager.
Yeah, this was the Newcastle match.
Ole will never loose the players (excluding the dutchman to secure myself). Never. That is silly talk that he would. People just see what they want to see, and make it the truth. If he can bring out the best in them is another question. Sometimes yes, other times no.
It's not luck, he has a great squad. They can carry any manager
They haven't downed tools obviously but I still say they no longer believe in him. They're fighting for their lives to avoid Europa League football again.
Guys guys, remember what happened with Mourinho ? The team also had similar games with similar turnarounds and we know what happened in the end.
Let's not draw any conclusions
Let's not draw any conclusions
They definitely haven’t downed tools on him.
Wishful thinking for some.
Wishful thinking for some.
Ole got clapped on at half time by Old Trafford.
Luck? Its the opposite of luck. Either you give it all or you dont. Its a question of effort and desire, not luck
The second half we really looked like we wanted to win, something we rarely have done so far this season, which is why the question was raised.
The thing is, we have to play this all the time, not just in short spurts
Not just playing for the fans that boo’d them? Or knowing they’d effectively be out of the CL if they lost?
Personally think we were good in the first half and unlucky to go in behind. Ole changed up and played a 4-2-4 with Greenwood right and Rashford left. The guy has got BALLS. At least if he's going down, he's going down fighting.
This was nothing like Newcastle. We went hail mary in that game.
Today, the goals came from players finding each other in spaces where they have been overhitting or underhitting passes. Rashford goal is clearly the transition goal that Ole loves, and the other two are good crosses with players in the box.
Mind boggling why we can't defend properly for 90 mins. On paper, we are a good defensive side. Ole needs to sort that out
There are so many parallels to Jose’s final season. Of course we will have a few good results along the way. Just delays the inevitable and likely ensures our season is being at greater risk of failure.
Have to disagree, the work rate and intensity is definitely something I’d cities Ole and the players for, and other teams play with high energy most games without an issue.
Rarely agree but this is bang on. A more astute team see that out, infact give them 3 senior CBs & they’d have been better.
I don't think Ole lost the players, they like him. But they're not playing for him either, they want to stay in the CL, which player doesn't? If this was in the league, can't see us coming back like that.
They play with organization and instructions. I doubt they work harder to have more intensity than we do under Ole. You don't have the amount of comebacks we do without a good collective attitude and work rate. The problem is there is no organization in the first place. Get a good system and a good level of intensity is sustainable. That 2nd half today is impossible to sustain, hell Atalanta themselves had loads of space to play during our lulls too.
We were and i might have worded myself poorly, but the second half performance today vs the abject, casual shite we saw vs West Ham, Everton and particularly Leicester is night and day almost
Yeah of course we can’t play with exactly that level of intensity but their is no excuse for the abject performances we have had over the last few years, we’ve had more low energy performances than high in my opinion and that’s our biggest issue. The comebacks are required because of abject sluggish performances, they go hand in hand.
We need both more organisation and intensity.
The board is utterly delusional and clueless, this doesn't surprise. In their mind, top 4 has to be gone, manager has to turn the dressing room toxic for them to act.
Agreed. No matter what they may think of the manager, no player worth his salt wants to go out of the CL.
Players not good enough for the first XI?
Football is not just about your starting XI
This team is drivin’ me crazy
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