That wasn't us. The Mourinho camped leaked that.
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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That wasn't us. The Mourinho camped leaked that.
In an ideal world longevity is best. But if they are all going the wrong way as all of ours post Fergie have done after varying time limits, you don’t hang around hoping that they will come good. Big clubs don’t accept it. I thought we envisioned ourselves as a big club?
I meant a failure in the PL.
Although finishing 3rd with Bayern is just as bad a finishing 8th with us.
No, I used common sense and context around him so I am patient to give him another season after he is used to the league. This isn't FIFA.
Standards my arse, you can hide behind "standards" all you want, truth is another thing.
yes, for another season under a proper footballing structure. Sacking manager after 2 season is not a solution
Can't wait.
People have gone all in on this guy, therefore it's the club that's the root of all evil. Pretty bizarre , but that's the social media these days.
Even if that's true, it's still on the club. Allowing that information to get out was classless, just like it is now.
Keeping a failing manager who has had us playing awful football for over a year isn't a solution either. Any manager needs to earn his time, not be given anything. 2 years is the average manager tenure.
The club can't stop it getting out so how is it classless?
How does that evidence line up with our situation? We only have 1 game left, that's tomorrow and it's a final. What "loses authority" are you talking about? There's nothing left in the season mate, there's no more coaching sessions even.
A one off game (especially a cup final) is a fair bit different than announcing it months in advance.
I remember us starting to play better in 18/19 when it looked almost certain that Mourinho was about to be fired. So much so that we ended up actually keeping him for another two months.
Longevity is only best if you have the absolute best in class in the role already. Then you don't need or want to change because everything else is a downgrade. We were in that position when we had Ferguson. Man City are in that position today with Guardiola.
Those managers came along once a generation.
If you don't have one of them, you need to cycle through the best of the rest and try and get the most out of the resources at hand, and constantly look for someone else who might get more out of the resources you have.
Not sure why everyone is blaming INEOS since I don't believe for one second they would leak this at this time.
Its someone with an agenda against United.
Its someone with an agenda against United.
A lot of people these days are incapable of even basic critical thinking skills.
Therefore "it's been leaked, it's the club's fault" is the narrative. It's depressing.
Bang on. It's absolutely disgusting.
Club could redeem itself by either issuing a statement denying it or a leak to a favoured journalist saying it's nonsense.
Our manager and players completely undermined the night before a final, wankers.
The leaks will still have started at the club. There's no way this gets out without the club being, at best, careless with the information. It's possible to agree with (and seemingly celebrate) the decision while also holding the club to account for handling it badly.
This is beyond childish. Being annoyed at the club for handling it horribly is entirely unrelated to backing the manager. Look at when LVG left for example, fans were fairly unanimous in agreeing it was time for him to go, but still really disappointed in the club for the lack of respect demonstrated in how it was handled.
Hiring that prick was the problem - and that's on the club. Unfortunately, he proved he was one before he'd even jumped into the role.
Hansi Flick has been mentioned.
Why would you meet with agent when FA cup final is less than week away? Thats where it got leaked from
Imagine ETH walks before the final if they don't give him assurances they havent made up their mind.
What manager wants to go to a cup final after almost concrete rumors he's being sacked, only to lose to a vastly better City side.
What manager wants to go to a cup final after almost concrete rumors he's being sacked, only to lose to a vastly better City side.
This has been covered repeatedly. Read the thread.
How? The club is speaking to multiple other parties when trying to sound out a new manager. These parties all have contacts in the media. Word inevitably gets out, and there's only so much the club can do about it.
Besides, it sounds like ETH has been well aware of his fate since before the Arsenal game anyway (not that it should've been much of a surprise regardless).
So what should the club do then? Not sack a failing manager?
It's not the bloody club that leaked it.
So what are they meant to do? Just let someone else nab the man they want? This is so dumb.
The only way the leaks for LVG and probably ETH don't happen is if we don't approach any managers until after we fire them. In which case, our first choice replacements end up going elsewhere and the fans (rightfully) complaining about the incompetence of the club not getting things done properly.
I'm not reading 17 pages to find out what you're talking about, but I'd welcome an explanation as to how the press found out we're sacking Ten Hag without anyone at the club saying anything if you have one. Short of telepathy I can't think of a way that happens.
worse season of the epl era...
I could be wrong, but I sense you might be upset?
We've started looking for a new manager.
That doesn't have to be the case at all. Surely we should be making sure that targets we approach have enough professionalism not to leak it. Especially not at such a potentially damaging time.
Yep
But you will have a bunch of idiot fans happy , regardless of how it impacts our chances tomorrow. If he’s gone on Sunday , then no United fan should be happy we find out a day hey for the cup final, it doesn’t help us.
Because if you wait then you risk losing your target.
We have the biggest game of our season left, far more important than any coaching sessions, and the manager who's coming up with the game plan to win it has had his authority undermined the day before that match.
The examples I gave were of teams that suffered due to managers being undermined. Do you have any examples of the opposite? As at the moment all you've got is what you "reckon" which is really nothing more than fantasy booking based entirely on your dislike of the manager.
Business has to be done behind the scenes all the time. Agents are supposed to be discreet.
I don't know if they can pinpoint whose agent it is, but if they know, we should not be hiring that manager.
Let's all hope it's Southgate's agent
That ETH caf account don't ya know?
Look up the page then.
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